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Quotes
"In the animal kingdom, the relationship between genome size and evolutionary status is not clear. One of the largest genomes belongs to a very small creature, Amoeba dubia. This protozoan genome has 670 billion units of DNA, or base pairs. The genome of a cousin, Amoeba proteus, has a mere 290 billion base pairs, making it 100 times larger than the human genome."
Source: Sizing up genomes: Amoeba is king
"The human embryo, formed by the union of sperm and egg, begins as a single cell. This cell is phenomenally flexible, possessed of potential to turn into a liver cell, a brain cell, a muscle cell, and every other kind of complex tissue that makes up the 100 trillion cells of the adult human being."
Source: The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence For Belief by Francis S. Collins (Kindle location 2800 of 3594)
Factoids
Amoebas begin as a single cell and live out their entire existence as a single cell. Human beings start out as single cells but can grow as large as 100 trillion cells.
Some genetic traits contained within human cells may be dormant and not express themselves in the person carrying the trait but the trait will express itself in a later generation. Example: Something like hair color or eye color might skip a generation or more and then return in a later generation.
Thoughts and a Speculation
1) Software doesn't get started by writing itself. Who programmed all of that genetic information in the single-cell amoeba? How else would it get there? Isn't it possible that an Intelligent Being put it there (unless your cognitive bias is not willing to go there to follow evidence and reasoning when it goes in that direction)?
2) Extreme speculation: Given that the amoeba carries such a high volume of genetic information in its genome, is it possible that the genome of the amoeba carries information that will express itself not in different types of cells but in different types of creatures after multiple generations of amoebas? Is it possible that we observe something that looks like evolution because the genetic information to produce a later creature was already there dormant in an earlier type of creature? Could dormant genes be a factor in what looks like evolution?
"In the animal kingdom, the relationship between genome size and evolutionary status is not clear. One of the largest genomes belongs to a very small creature, Amoeba dubia. This protozoan genome has 670 billion units of DNA, or base pairs. The genome of a cousin, Amoeba proteus, has a mere 290 billion base pairs, making it 100 times larger than the human genome."
Source: Sizing up genomes: Amoeba is king
"The human embryo, formed by the union of sperm and egg, begins as a single cell. This cell is phenomenally flexible, possessed of potential to turn into a liver cell, a brain cell, a muscle cell, and every other kind of complex tissue that makes up the 100 trillion cells of the adult human being."
Source: The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence For Belief by Francis S. Collins (Kindle location 2800 of 3594)
Factoids
Amoebas begin as a single cell and live out their entire existence as a single cell. Human beings start out as single cells but can grow as large as 100 trillion cells.
Some genetic traits contained within human cells may be dormant and not express themselves in the person carrying the trait but the trait will express itself in a later generation. Example: Something like hair color or eye color might skip a generation or more and then return in a later generation.
Thoughts and a Speculation
1) Software doesn't get started by writing itself. Who programmed all of that genetic information in the single-cell amoeba? How else would it get there? Isn't it possible that an Intelligent Being put it there (unless your cognitive bias is not willing to go there to follow evidence and reasoning when it goes in that direction)?
2) Extreme speculation: Given that the amoeba carries such a high volume of genetic information in its genome, is it possible that the genome of the amoeba carries information that will express itself not in different types of cells but in different types of creatures after multiple generations of amoebas? Is it possible that we observe something that looks like evolution because the genetic information to produce a later creature was already there dormant in an earlier type of creature? Could dormant genes be a factor in what looks like evolution?
Okay, let's talk intelligent being started it all.
How long ago did this intelligent being proximate cause Neanderthals to walk this Earth?
And how old do you think this Earth is? Give or take a few billion or even a few million or even a few hundreds of thousands of years ago?
I am not interested in an answer with the word "duh" in it.
How long ago did this intelligent being proximate cause Neanderthals to walk this Earth?
And how old do you think this Earth is? Give or take a few billion or even a few million or even a few hundreds of thousands of years ago?
I am not interested in an answer with the word "duh" in it.
Who knows, but it really doesn't cause me loss of sleep. I had heard of this, by the way. Why do you think this is an issue for evolution? I don't imagine that Genesis provides any insight at all into the the problem. So if a religious explanation currently provides no more insight than a scientific one, or perhaps even less, then why would it cause me concern. It was science that discovered this in the first place. The Bible is incapable of such insights. On the face of it, it seems to me that the only explanation can come from science. It is not possible for the Bible to provide any sort of answer. I will await a scientific resolution, and I have no doubts that one will be found.
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This is not at all related to human ancestors.
However, there are two reasons. The first is that in 2000 our numbers on the size of genomes were too high generally. But the more interesting feature is that the "primitive" gnomes are generally larger. Not just amoeba, but yeast, and fungi. This is because the reproduction of the these cells is basically a "single read" process. The DNA to RNA to Proteins is a single pass job. There is not much repeated transcription of a gene. If the cell has multiple copies of a protein, there are multiple copies of the gene needed to make it. In organisms with specialized cells, there are a large number of regulatory genes. These are copied to RNA, and the RNA is the product- they are not made into protein. Instead, the little RNA segments lock on to genetic DNA and can then cause multiple copies, or no more copies of the protein to be made. This is how a small number of protein building genes ("small" being between 20 and 30 thousand), and make many sorts of cells. Another feature of some "advanced" protein making genes is that they have been duplicated and attached to one another front to back, so that two copies are make with a single RNA read. Then the regulatory micro-RNA can become even more interesting by blocking only parts of the gene transcription resulting in multiple protein products from a 'single' gene.
These regulatory genes were only discovered in the 1990s, although their existence was suspected as early as the late 1970s. For more, see: Stones and Bones: Junk DNA, and Junk Creationism
However, there are two reasons. The first is that in 2000 our numbers on the size of genomes were too high generally. But the more interesting feature is that the "primitive" gnomes are generally larger. Not just amoeba, but yeast, and fungi. This is because the reproduction of the these cells is basically a "single read" process. The DNA to RNA to Proteins is a single pass job. There is not much repeated transcription of a gene. If the cell has multiple copies of a protein, there are multiple copies of the gene needed to make it. In organisms with specialized cells, there are a large number of regulatory genes. These are copied to RNA, and the RNA is the product- they are not made into protein. Instead, the little RNA segments lock on to genetic DNA and can then cause multiple copies, or no more copies of the protein to be made. This is how a small number of protein building genes ("small" being between 20 and 30 thousand), and make many sorts of cells. Another feature of some "advanced" protein making genes is that they have been duplicated and attached to one another front to back, so that two copies are make with a single RNA read. Then the regulatory micro-RNA can become even more interesting by blocking only parts of the gene transcription resulting in multiple protein products from a 'single' gene.
These regulatory genes were only discovered in the 1990s, although their existence was suspected as early as the late 1970s. For more, see: Stones and Bones: Junk DNA, and Junk Creationism
Your entire concept of plate tectonics is wrong. For a quick introduction see: Stones and Bones: Dismissing "catastrophic plate tectonics"
Even a few hours reading the Wikipedia pages on Plate Subduction, Seafloor Spreading, Mountain Formation, and Orogeny could prevent such simple public errors.
Even a few hours reading the Wikipedia pages on Plate Subduction, Seafloor Spreading, Mountain Formation, and Orogeny could prevent such simple public errors.
Pat Robertson has many more coherent moments than Dr. Dino (Kent Hovind), Ken Ham, or anybody at Institute for Creation Research. Like when Pat Robertson said:
"Let’s face it, there was a bishop [Ussher] who added up the dates listed in Genesis and he came up with the world had been around for 6,000 years. There ain’t no way that’s possible. To say that it all came about in 6,000 years is just nonsense and I think it’s time we come off of that stuff and say this isn’t possible. We’ve got to be realistic that the dating of Bishop Ussher just doesn’t comport with anything that is found in science."
Pat Robertson isn't a scientist, but he has the good sense to not totally disregard the vast body of credible scientific evidence that indicates that the world is not 6,000 years old.
"Let’s face it, there was a bishop [Ussher] who added up the dates listed in Genesis and he came up with the world had been around for 6,000 years. There ain’t no way that’s possible. To say that it all came about in 6,000 years is just nonsense and I think it’s time we come off of that stuff and say this isn’t possible. We’ve got to be realistic that the dating of Bishop Ussher just doesn’t comport with anything that is found in science."
Pat Robertson isn't a scientist, but he has the good sense to not totally disregard the vast body of credible scientific evidence that indicates that the world is not 6,000 years old.
Well, actually, hell and hades are the same place...
The word hades...
G86
ᾅδης
hadēs
hah'-dace
From G1 (as a negative particle) and G1492; properly unseen, that is, Hades or the place (state) of departed souls: - grave, hell.
Total KJV occurrences: 11
It is translated as hell eleven times in the N.T...
Mat 11:23, 16:18, Luke 10:15, 16:23, Acts 2:27, 2:31, I Cor 15:55, Rev 1:18, 6:8, 20:13, 20:14
By the way, you should look up who Adam Clarke is.
The word hades...
G86
ᾅδης
hadēs
hah'-dace
From G1 (as a negative particle) and G1492; properly unseen, that is, Hades or the place (state) of departed souls: - grave, hell.
Total KJV occurrences: 11
It is translated as hell eleven times in the N.T...
Mat 11:23, 16:18, Luke 10:15, 16:23, Acts 2:27, 2:31, I Cor 15:55, Rev 1:18, 6:8, 20:13, 20:14
By the way, you should look up who Adam Clarke is.
I suppose if you have no other explanation available, and you already believe in one of many deities, then you might imagine one of them put it there, but where is the evidence? If you are simply conjecturing a supernatural creation process for lack of another viable explanation, then I would say you are falling into the God of the Gaps trap. What happens when science produces an explanation? Better to build your belief in God upon a base that contains a little less sand.
Do you want a bag from which I cannot devise an escape? It’s theistic evolution.
Do you want a bag from which I cannot devise an escape? It’s theistic evolution.