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Jesus used imprecations
The Lord Jesus taught and practiced unconditional love, but He also imprecated the unbelieving cities of Capernaum, Chorazin and Bethsaida. Also in Matthew chapter 23, we hear Jesus, thundering down "woes" upon the "teachers of the law and the Pharisees." The seven woes of verses 13, 15, 16, 23, 24, 27 and 29 all condemn and call forth judgment of God to fall on them in unequivocal terms. Do we have an inconsistency in the Savior's ministry? Not at all. It is also interesting to note that the judgment Jesus pronounced on Judas in Matt.26:23-24 was actually taken from Psalm 41:9-10:
"And he answered and said, He that dippeth his hand with me in the dish, the same shall betray me. The Son of man goeth as it is written of him: but woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if he had not been born." Matt 26:23-24
"Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me.0 But thou, O LORD, be merciful unto me, and raise me up, that I may requite them." Ps 41:9-10
Why did not Jesus forgive Judus ? was not Judus His enemy ?
The Lord Jesus taught and practiced unconditional love, but He also imprecated the unbelieving cities of Capernaum, Chorazin and Bethsaida. Also in Matthew chapter 23, we hear Jesus, thundering down "woes" upon the "teachers of the law and the Pharisees." The seven woes of verses 13, 15, 16, 23, 24, 27 and 29 all condemn and call forth judgment of God to fall on them in unequivocal terms. Do we have an inconsistency in the Savior's ministry? Not at all. It is also interesting to note that the judgment Jesus pronounced on Judas in Matt.26:23-24 was actually taken from Psalm 41:9-10:
"And he answered and said, He that dippeth his hand with me in the dish, the same shall betray me. The Son of man goeth as it is written of him: but woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if he had not been born." Matt 26:23-24
"Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me.0 But thou, O LORD, be merciful unto me, and raise me up, that I may requite them." Ps 41:9-10
Why did not Jesus forgive Judus ? was not Judus His enemy ?
This is appropriate. We pray for God to be avenged on His enemies. It isn't our place to avenge ourselves is the point there eh.
Jesus, as an obedient son, gave way to the wrath of His enemies. But only the Lord is the one who repays;
(Rom 12:19)
Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Jesus, as an obedient son, gave way to the wrath of His enemies. But only the Lord is the one who repays;
(Rom 12:19)
Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
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this is why I ask the question no where in the bible says praying against your enemies is wrong
everyone is taking these verse to say what they are not saying
dont avenge ,what does that mean dont pull the physical sword but by all means pull the spiritual sword and let the Lord cut them to pieces
physical battle is condeemd by the Lord He never says dont pray against ypur enemies that they be destroyed sometimes
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Jesus is God and so he can condemn anyone he pleases but we are mere humans servants of God so we do not have the authority to do so. this is why I don't use scripture in a debate, once I show the scripture it is completely ignored. Jesus made it clear to love your enemy I don't know how much clearer it could be made to you.
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Is alright for a christian to say this pray today ? why or Why Not ?
[h=1]2 Chronicles 14:11King James Version (KJV)[/h]11 And Asa cried unto the Lord his God, and said, Lord, it is nothing with thee to help, whether with many, or with them that have no power: help us, O Lord our God; for we rest on thee, and in thy name we go against this multitude. O Lord, thou art our God; let no man prevail against thee.
[h=1]2 Chronicles 14:11King James Version (KJV)[/h]11 And Asa cried unto the Lord his God, and said, Lord, it is nothing with thee to help, whether with many, or with them that have no power: help us, O Lord our God; for we rest on thee, and in thy name we go against this multitude. O Lord, thou art our God; let no man prevail against thee.
Your really gonna try to pull the whole Judgement Card? to discern or make a decision? look buddy I have done everything I can for you and clearly you are hell bent on being right about praying against ppl and nothing is going to change that. I have to be getting ready for bed but my advice is to seek more love in your faith because the lack of love has clouded your judgement
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The Lord Jesus taught and practiced unconditional love, but He also imprecated the unbelieving cities of Capernaum, Chorazin and Bethsaida. Also in Matthew chapter 23, we hear Jesus, thundering down "woes" upon the "teachers of the law and the Pharisees." The seven woes of verses 13, 15, 16, 23, 24, 27 and 29 all condemn and call forth judgment of God to fall on them in unequivocal terms. Do we have an inconsistency in the Savior's ministry? Not at all. It is also interesting to note that the judgment Jesus pronounced on Judas in Matt.26:23-24 was actually taken from Psalm 41:9-10:
"And he answered and said, He that dippeth his hand with me in the dish, the same shall betray me. The Son of man goeth as it is written of him: but woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if he had not been born." Matt 26:23-24
"Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me.0 But thou, O LORD, be merciful unto me, and raise me up, that I may requite them." Ps 41:9-10
Why does not the two witnesses forgive but command fire and to smite the earth with plagues ?
"And he answered and said, He that dippeth his hand with me in the dish, the same shall betray me. The Son of man goeth as it is written of him: but woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if he had not been born." Matt 26:23-24
"Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me.0 But thou, O LORD, be merciful unto me, and raise me up, that I may requite them." Ps 41:9-10
Why does not the two witnesses forgive but command fire and to smite the earth with plagues ?
I never pray against MY enemies. I pray for them.
It is the enemies of God of whom I pray for His vengeance.
Both are normal awareness of the Holy Spirit, verified by the Word. So it isn't an issue for me, as long as I don't try to avenge myself rather than pray for my enemies.
Only He knows who His enemies truly are in the end. And I am never to judge ultimate condemnation on a soul in progress, I don't know all things. That should explain the seeming contrast I hope. It seems clear to me.
Peace
It is the enemies of God of whom I pray for His vengeance.
Both are normal awareness of the Holy Spirit, verified by the Word. So it isn't an issue for me, as long as I don't try to avenge myself rather than pray for my enemies.
Only He knows who His enemies truly are in the end. And I am never to judge ultimate condemnation on a soul in progress, I don't know all things. That should explain the seeming contrast I hope. It seems clear to me.
Peace
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I never pray against MY enemies. I pray for them.
It is the enemies of God of whom I pray for His vengeance.
Both are normal awareness of the Holy Spirit, verified by the Word. So it isn't an issue for me, as long as I don't try to avenge myself rather than pray for my enemies.
Only He knows who His enemies truly are in the end. And I am never to judge ultimate condemnation on a soul in progress, I don't know all things. That should explain the seeming contrast I hope. It seems clear to me.
Peace
It is the enemies of God of whom I pray for His vengeance.
Both are normal awareness of the Holy Spirit, verified by the Word. So it isn't an issue for me, as long as I don't try to avenge myself rather than pray for my enemies.
Only He knows who His enemies truly are in the end. And I am never to judge ultimate condemnation on a soul in progress, I don't know all things. That should explain the seeming contrast I hope. It seems clear to me.
Peace
9 Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him.
10 And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?
11 And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and thou shalt be blind, not seeing the sun for a season. And immediately there fell on him a mist and a darkness; and he went about seeking some to lead him by the hand.
12 Then the deputy, when he saw what was done, believed, being astonished at the doctrine of the Lord.
How do you understand this ? can christians do this today ?
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looks like speedy vegence to me
1 Cor 16:22
If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha. "Anathema" means to be "cursed with a great curse."
Gal 1:8
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Gal 5:12
I would they were even cut off which trouble you.
1 Cor 16:22
If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha. "Anathema" means to be "cursed with a great curse."
Gal 1:8
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Gal 5:12
I would they were even cut off which trouble you.
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All the pslams are for us to used in praise in prayer in war in thanks
they are not for decoration
[h=1]Psalm 35:7-8King James Version (KJV)[/h]7 For without cause have they hid for me their net in a pit, which without cause they have digged for my soul.
8 Let destruction come upon him at unawares; and let his net that he hath hid catch himself: into that very destruction let him fall.
they are not for decoration
[h=1]Psalm 35:7-8King James Version (KJV)[/h]7 For without cause have they hid for me their net in a pit, which without cause they have digged for my soul.
8 Let destruction come upon him at unawares; and let his net that he hath hid catch himself: into that very destruction let him fall.
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For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. (Joh 3:17)
I got an idea. Why don't you pray that God saves our enemies and then when He answers that prayer pray that He destroys them
I got an idea. Why don't you pray that God saves our enemies and then when He answers that prayer pray that He destroys them
[h=1]John 17:9King James Version (KJV)[/h]9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
Why did Jesus say this if He died for the world ?