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Yeah, these go after Paul the apostle on every forum, and they all copy paste all their same speaking points against him. These live to sqaush Paul at every chance they get, everything is about proving Paul is a false apostle.
Its been around for awhile, its nothing new, but each one you meet sticks their stuff in your face as if its something new and just keep copy pasting massive amounts of scripture against Paul.
Sweet.... (rolls eyes)
Its been around for awhile, its nothing new, but each one you meet sticks their stuff in your face as if its something new and just keep copy pasting massive amounts of scripture against Paul.
Sweet.... (rolls eyes)
I get the feeling like people reject what the Messiah said... His words are rarely posted by anti-Nomians and when I post His words they are usually "countered" by non Scriptural ideals or personal attacks.
Matt 24:35, “Heaven and earth may pass away, but My teachings will not pass away."
John 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day."
Matt 24:35, “Heaven and earth may pass away, but My teachings will not pass away."
John 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day."
Acts 9:11-16[SUP]11 [/SUP]And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the street which is called Straight, and enquire in the house of Judas for one called Saul, of Tarsus: for, behold, he prayeth,
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And hath seen in a vision a man named Ananias coming in, and putting his hand on him, that he might receive his sight.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Then Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard by many of this man, how much evil he hath done to thy saints at Jerusalem:
[SUP]14 [/SUP]And here he hath authority from the chief priests to bind all that call on thy name.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:
[SUP]16 [/SUP]For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake."
Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And hath seen in a vision a man named Ananias coming in, and putting his hand on him, that he might receive his sight.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Then Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard by many of this man, how much evil he hath done to thy saints at Jerusalem:
[SUP]14 [/SUP]And here he hath authority from the chief priests to bind all that call on thy name.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:
[SUP]16 [/SUP]For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake."
Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!
That is untrue there are various gorups that dont believe in OSAS
I dont believe the words once saved always saved, but these go after anything Paul
Best folks just look up "Paul the false apostle"
For example, just one site
Paul the false apostle
They have been around for awhile
I dont believe the words once saved always saved, but these go after anything Paul
Best folks just look up "Paul the false apostle"
For example, just one site
Paul the false apostle
They have been around for awhile
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Sorry, but correct doctrine is absolutely necessary for proper understanding of God's word. If one were to accept their teaching, it would be, as I said, accepting a "gospel" of fear, not love.
If you are more concerned about being "politically correct" within the framework of spirituality that you are about proper doctrine, then you leave yourself open to being misled. I won't yell at you or chastise you for that. You wouldn't listen if I did. But that's not how I would give you such a warning. It would be in an attitude of love and fellowship. And you still might not listen.
If you are more concerned about being "politically correct" within the framework of spirituality that you are about proper doctrine, then you leave yourself open to being misled. I won't yell at you or chastise you for that. You wouldn't listen if I did. But that's not how I would give you such a warning. It would be in an attitude of love and fellowship. And you still might not listen.
the thing is my friend is doctrine does not measure ones faith and heart. Every denomination and every wind of doctrine believer truly believes their way or teachings and doctrine are the correct ones and others are heresy.
You wouldnt say what you said in your op to them face to face would you? every believer has at least one belief or doctrine that isnt right but God looks at the heart. i dont know if eternalvation is about osas but i dont personally believe in it
You wouldnt say what you said in your op to them face to face would you? every believer has at least one belief or doctrine that isnt right but God looks at the heart. i dont know if eternalvation is about osas but i dont personally believe in it
Is not the Law love? So how is it that promoting it a bad thing?
1 Yahchanan 5:2-3, "By this we know that we love the children of Yahweh: When we love Yahweh by keeping His Laws. For this is the love of Yahweh: That we keep His Law, and His Law is not grievous."
Mattithyah 24:12, "And because iniquity will abound, the love of the many will grow cold."
"iniquity" is:#0458 anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459
Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness
Romans 13:8, "Owe no man anything, except to love one another, for he who loves another has performed the Law. For the commandments: You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not bring false testimony, You shall not covet, and all other commandments are summed up in this (Law Leviticus 19:18); namely: You must love your neighbor as yourself. Love works no harm to his neighbor; therefore, love is the fulness of the Law."
Deuteronomy 10:16, "Therefore circumcise the foreskin of your heart, and do not be stiff-necked any longer."
Love in practice, not in jaw flappin:
Leviticus 19:9-18,29-31 "When you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not completely harvest the corners of your field, nor shall you gather the gleanings of your harvest. You shall not glean your vineyard, nor shall you gather every grape of your vineyard. You shall leave them for the poor and the stranger; I am Yahweh your Father. You shall not steal, nor deal falsely, nor lie one to another. Do not vow falsely with My Name, and so profane the Name of your Father. I am Yahweh. You shall not defraud your neighbor, nor rob him. Do not hold back the wages of a hired man overnight. Do not curse the deaf or put a stumblingblock in front of the blind; but reverence your Father. I am Yahweh. Do not pervert judgment: You shall not show partiality to the poor, nor honor to the person of the great. In righteousness you shall judge your neighbor fairly. You shall not go about tale-bearing or slandering among your people. Do not do anything that endangers your neighbor's life. I am Yahweh. You shall not hate your neighbor in your heart. Rebuke your brother or your sister frankly, so you will not share in his or her guilt. Do not seek revenge nor bear a grudge against one of your own people; but you shall love your neighbor; whether a brother or an enemy, as yourself. I am Yahweh.Do not prostitute your daughter, to cause her to be a harlot; or the land will fall into harlotry, and the land will become full of wickedness. Do not turn to mediums nor familiar spirits. Do not seek after them, to be defiled by them. I am Yahweh. You shall stand up before the gray headed, and you shall honor the presence of an Elder or Teacher; thereby giving reverence to your Heavenly Father. I am Yahweh. If a stranger lives with you in your and, do not mistreat him. The stranger living with you must be treated as one of your native-born, and you shall love him as yourself; for you were strangers in the land of Egypt. I am Yahweh. Do not use dishonest standards when measuring length, weight, or quantity. You shall have honest balances, honest weights, an honest ephah; a dry measure, and an honest in; a liquid measure. I am Yahweh your Father Who brought you out of the land of Egypt; Therefore, you must observe all My statutes and My judgments, and perform and do them. I am Yahweh."
Yeremyah 17:9, "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked; who can know it?"
If left up to man, man will say they love but it will be a twisted worldly version, not true love.
No, love is only what Yahweh says it is, anything less is falsehood.
Revelation 22:12-15, "And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work will be. I am the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Blessed are those who keep His Laws, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and worshipers of gods and everyone who professes to love, yet practices falsehood."
Does Scripture not make a direct connection of the Law and love?
1 Yahchanan 5:2-3, "By this we know that we love the children of Yahweh: When we love Yahweh by keeping His Laws. For this is the love of Yahweh: That we keep His Law, and His Law is not grievous."
Mattithyah 24:12, "And because iniquity will abound, the love of the many will grow cold."
"iniquity" is:#0458 anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459
Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness
Romans 13:8, "Owe no man anything, except to love one another, for he who loves another has performed the Law. For the commandments: You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not bring false testimony, You shall not covet, and all other commandments are summed up in this (Law Leviticus 19:18); namely: You must love your neighbor as yourself. Love works no harm to his neighbor; therefore, love is the fulness of the Law."
Deuteronomy 10:16, "Therefore circumcise the foreskin of your heart, and do not be stiff-necked any longer."
Love in practice, not in jaw flappin:
Leviticus 19:9-18,29-31 "When you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not completely harvest the corners of your field, nor shall you gather the gleanings of your harvest. You shall not glean your vineyard, nor shall you gather every grape of your vineyard. You shall leave them for the poor and the stranger; I am Yahweh your Father. You shall not steal, nor deal falsely, nor lie one to another. Do not vow falsely with My Name, and so profane the Name of your Father. I am Yahweh. You shall not defraud your neighbor, nor rob him. Do not hold back the wages of a hired man overnight. Do not curse the deaf or put a stumblingblock in front of the blind; but reverence your Father. I am Yahweh. Do not pervert judgment: You shall not show partiality to the poor, nor honor to the person of the great. In righteousness you shall judge your neighbor fairly. You shall not go about tale-bearing or slandering among your people. Do not do anything that endangers your neighbor's life. I am Yahweh. You shall not hate your neighbor in your heart. Rebuke your brother or your sister frankly, so you will not share in his or her guilt. Do not seek revenge nor bear a grudge against one of your own people; but you shall love your neighbor; whether a brother or an enemy, as yourself. I am Yahweh.Do not prostitute your daughter, to cause her to be a harlot; or the land will fall into harlotry, and the land will become full of wickedness. Do not turn to mediums nor familiar spirits. Do not seek after them, to be defiled by them. I am Yahweh. You shall stand up before the gray headed, and you shall honor the presence of an Elder or Teacher; thereby giving reverence to your Heavenly Father. I am Yahweh. If a stranger lives with you in your and, do not mistreat him. The stranger living with you must be treated as one of your native-born, and you shall love him as yourself; for you were strangers in the land of Egypt. I am Yahweh. Do not use dishonest standards when measuring length, weight, or quantity. You shall have honest balances, honest weights, an honest ephah; a dry measure, and an honest in; a liquid measure. I am Yahweh your Father Who brought you out of the land of Egypt; Therefore, you must observe all My statutes and My judgments, and perform and do them. I am Yahweh."
Yeremyah 17:9, "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked; who can know it?"
If left up to man, man will say they love but it will be a twisted worldly version, not true love.
No, love is only what Yahweh says it is, anything less is falsehood.
Revelation 22:12-15, "And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work will be. I am the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Blessed are those who keep His Laws, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and worshipers of gods and everyone who professes to love, yet practices falsehood."
Does Scripture not make a direct connection of the Law and love?
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Is He the Might One that changes or Is He the Might One that does not change?
Exodus 20:6, "But showing love to thousands who love Me by keeping My Laws."
Mattithyah 22:37, "Yahshua said to him: You must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might."
"Hizikyah is so so so so so evil he is quoting Scripture that says the Law is love, so so evil"
lol
Exodus 20:6, "But showing love to thousands who love Me by keeping My Laws."
Mattithyah 22:37, "Yahshua said to him: You must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might."
"Hizikyah is so so so so so evil he is quoting Scripture that says the Law is love, so so evil"
lol