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I agree with the whole self esteem thing.. but, just wondering, do you think these people (the one sitting on the ground) commit a sin? They are pretty much naked in their daily lives.
Do you think God will hold them accountable for having indecent culture?
Do you think God will hold them accountable for having indecent culture?
Logically, yes I believe God would hold people accountable for sins. God is a just God, and He is not going to have different standards for people just because they are more or less informed than others.
God gave them clothes by killing animals to take their skins to make the clothes. Adam and Eve did not even know they were naked until they ate of the fruit. And after, they hid from God, and tried to cover their nakedness which they were now aware of. Their nakedness was before natural and beautiful.
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Ironically, you are always talking about God giving us a brain to think.
If you think it through, you would see that by giving Adam and Eve clothes, God is saying nakedness is something that is no longer acceptable.
What I don't understand is how you of all people can say men must wear kippahs, but you think it is okay to waltz around naked. Why would God give a hoot about a head covering, but then allow His people to walk around naked? That makes no sense. "I don't care if you walk around naked, but you better have your head covered!"
If you think it through, you would see that by giving Adam and Eve clothes, God is saying nakedness is something that is no longer acceptable.
What I don't understand is how you of all people can say men must wear kippahs, but you think it is okay to waltz around naked. Why would God give a hoot about a head covering, but then allow His people to walk around naked? That makes no sense. "I don't care if you walk around naked, but you better have your head covered!"
Wearing a head covering for religious services is kind of besides the point here. That's a ceremonial ritual, not a moral issue.
Who is saying that we should 'walk around naked'? That's not considered acceptable by our society. It can get you arrested. What we're saying is that just because our society frowns on public nudity, doesn't mean that it's morally wrong in and of itself. We're saying that, if you were in a situation where nobody would be offended, then it would be okay to be naked. If you were at a nude beach or nudist resort, it would be okay to be naked because it's expected or required there. Customs are different.
Who is saying that we should 'walk around naked'? That's not considered acceptable by our society. It can get you arrested. What we're saying is that just because our society frowns on public nudity, doesn't mean that it's morally wrong in and of itself. We're saying that, if you were in a situation where nobody would be offended, then it would be okay to be naked. If you were at a nude beach or nudist resort, it would be okay to be naked because it's expected or required there. Customs are different.
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Also, I've never EVER said men must wear kippahs 
Also, Brackenzee, I probably should have pointed out that I don't seperate the moral from the ceremonial. They're all important to God.
I don't support walking around naked just for the fun of it. However, I won't condemn people who, say, go to nude beaches or live in nudist colonies or anything like that, because I don't have anything in Scripture to suggest that what G-d once called pure and holy and beautiful is now shameful and wicked.
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Yeah, to me, walking around at a nudist beach or colony is walking around naked for the fun of it.
Just because you must cover it up doesn't mean it is shameful or wicked. It is not the body that is shameful and wicked. What is shameful is it be immodest.
Look, before sin entered the world, Adam and Eve could walk around naked because there was no lust, no sexual perversion, etc. Did you ever stop to think that God covered Adam and Eve up because He knew sin had entered the world and it would be in man's best interest to cover his body in order to keep from sinning?
God is not saying the body is shameful and wicked by requiring us to be clothed. Wearing clothes is just the same as the laws that Rabbis might hand down in the respect that they are given to help keep people from sinning. God clothes us in order to help keep us from having lustful thoughts, etc.
Before the fall clothes were not needed, because Adam and Eve did not have to worry about sin. After the fall, sin entered and God realized His creation would not be able to function naked any longer.
Just because you must cover it up doesn't mean it is shameful or wicked. It is not the body that is shameful and wicked. What is shameful is it be immodest.
Look, before sin entered the world, Adam and Eve could walk around naked because there was no lust, no sexual perversion, etc. Did you ever stop to think that God covered Adam and Eve up because He knew sin had entered the world and it would be in man's best interest to cover his body in order to keep from sinning?
God is not saying the body is shameful and wicked by requiring us to be clothed. Wearing clothes is just the same as the laws that Rabbis might hand down in the respect that they are given to help keep people from sinning. God clothes us in order to help keep us from having lustful thoughts, etc.
Before the fall clothes were not needed, because Adam and Eve did not have to worry about sin. After the fall, sin entered and God realized His creation would not be able to function naked any longer.
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You think that everyone at nude beaches/colonies can look at other naked people and not be attracted to good-looking people?
If someone is attracted to a girl when she is clothed, why would that change just because they go to a nude beach?
I'm not going to risk it. If my being naked could cause a man or woman to have even 1 lustful thought, why would I do it? I am not going to be a stumbling block.
If someone is attracted to a girl when she is clothed, why would that change just because they go to a nude beach?
I'm not going to risk it. If my being naked could cause a man or woman to have even 1 lustful thought, why would I do it? I am not going to be a stumbling block.
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