Being without sin

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loveschild

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God bless you too.
Its written the curse came from Adam and Eve. I'm not blaming them. I know where it came from though. Yes we are all to own up to what we do wrong. We reap what we sow.
But before Adam and Eve we were to have a immortable body. They cause us to have a body that is dying the minute we are born.
It is beacuse of them that we were separated from God in the first place.
Even for ladies pain at period time and pain in giving birth is thanks to Eve.
Its written.
We were made to have a wondeful blessed life. But because of Adam and Eves sin it made things much hader for us.
Have you ever just thought how life would have been for us if they had never of disobeyed?
 
resurrection33

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loveschild said:
God bless you too.
Its written the curse came from Adam and Eve. I'm not blaming them. I know where it came from though. Yes we are all to own up to what we do wrong. We reap what we sow.
But before Adam and Eve we were to have a immortable body. They cause us to have a body that is dying the minute we are born.
It is beacuse of them that we were separated from God in the first place.
Even for ladies pain at period time and pain in giving birth is thanks to Eve.
Its written.
We were made to have a wondeful blessed life. But because of Adam and Eves sin it made things much hader for us.
Have you ever just thought how life would have been for us if they had never of disobeyed?
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I think any two human beings in their situation would have committed the same sin. I think it was meant from the beginning that we would struggle. We need to develop our “spiritual muscles.”

Loving the Lord with all of our hearts, souls, and minds, and loving our neighbors as ourselves, are not small tasks. Which ones of us would perform then without some prodding?
 
loveschild

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Yha it all makes my point. We are sinners. We don't have these wonderful minds that are just filled with happy happy all the time. We have these minds that get these ugly thoughts. We have minds that want revenge. And we can't be ruled by our minds. I thank God that he teaches us if we are willing to sumit to him.
He calls us sheep cause their stupid. They just lay down and die if no one helps them.
Thank God he helps us when we ask.
 
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we are not perfect.....
 
loveschild

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No we sure aren't we all fall short of the glory of God. But we can keep trying thank God.
 
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loveschild said:
Yha it all makes my point. We are sinners. We don't have these wonderful minds that are just filled with happy happy all the time. We have these minds that get these ugly thoughts. We have minds that want revenge. And we can't be ruled by our minds. I thank God that he teaches us if we are willing to sumit to him.
He calls us sheep cause their stupid. They just lay down and die if no one helps them.
Thank God he helps us when we ask.
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the part of us that is born of god, the spirit that is born of the holy spirit, is without sin.

we, as beings of flesh and blood, still have sin in us, sometimes hidden deep within the recesses of our hearts and minds. god wants to illuminate these places, with his pure holiness. it is up to us to seek his face for this illumination. the more we come into his presence, the more these dark places will become light. if we don't seek his face, they remain dark.

we grow up into jesus by seeking the father, who he made it possible for us to see, in his sacrifice for us.

in truth, this is true salvation, developing this relationship with the father through jesus by his spirit, in truth and in love.

this is how we come to know him.
 
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We are not perfect at all some people follow God and back slide! The bible says the righteous man falls seven times but gets back up. fighting the flesh is a hard battle trust me.
 
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bluebutterfly said:
We are not perfect at all some people follow God and back slide! The bible says the righteous man falls seven times but gets back up. fighting the flesh is a hard battle trust me.
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the part of you that is born of god is without sin. because it is born of god.
 
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bluebutterfly said:
We are not perfect at all some people follow God and back slide! The bible says the righteous man falls seven times but gets back up. fighting the flesh is a hard battle trust me.
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that part of us is the child born of god.

yes, we still live in corrupted bodies, and our minds are darkened, our hearts need to have his light shined in them to the utmost.

but what jesus has cleansed, do not call dirty. only need for our feet to be washed.

if jesus lives in you, then he has made you perfect in his sight.

do i see myself as perfect?

no.

but i know that what he sees me as is a perfect and holy child of his, and as such i have every right to come boldly into his presence, in jesus christ.
 
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do you remember when jesus washed the disciples feet? this shows the truth of this. peter told jesus that he was not going to let him wash his feet. jesus told peter that if he did not wash his feet, then peter was no part of his. then peter said to jesus for him to wash his whole body, but jesus told peter he was already clean, just needed his feet washed.

so it is for us.
 
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SeekinHIM

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Dear Resurrection,

I just did a thread on this very topic, this is impossible as long as we are in these fallen bodies........It's called BE YE PERFECT..........Maybe when you get a chance take a look at it...........Read the entire teaching that JESUS was giving to the Pharisees in Matthew starting with the Sermon on the Mount.......Chapter 5 verse1 all the way through verse 48 which is the verse Be ye Perfect as your Heavenly Father is perfect........

SeekinHIM
 
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We need to be perfect:
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like i said we are not perfect...ppl sin and they dont even notice....so what was the point of jesus on the cross if we could be "perfect"
 
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like i said we are not perfect...ppl sin and they dont even notice....so what was the point of jesus on the cross if we could be "perfect"
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we take on his perfection just as he took on our sin.
 
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NodMyHeadLikeYeah

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I have never gone a day without sinning. I try so hard not to, but inevitably when someone cuts me off in traffic i am a sin sin sin sin sinner! however workin on it though.
 
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NodMyHeadLikeYeah said:
I have never gone a day without sinning. I try so hard not to, but inevitably when someone cuts me off in traffic i am a sin sin sin sin sinner! however workin on it though.
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we all do, but that is not who we are in jesus.

we do not lie and say we don't have sin, but we know that jesus cleanses us from all unrighteousness.

and even so, the real us, born of god, does not sin. this is the nature we are growing into.

we are much more complex than we imagine.

when i say that we, the part of us created in righteousness in jesus christ, does not sin, it means that god the father does not see us as sinning, if we are in jesus. for when god the father looks at us, he sees what we are to be in jesus, in that day, when we are changed to be like him. and we can see the father, in jesus.

this is grace. and this is jesus' place that he chose to be in for us, as our propitiation, our life, our high priest.
 
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If you could be without sin You would not need Jesus to die on the cross.
Jesus died because we all fall short of Gods glorious standards.
You make the cross void if you think you can be good enough, the word says not one of us are good.

You are without sin not because of anything you can do of yourself, it's a free gift.
Grace, undeserved favor.

God knows our struggle with sin, that is why He sent Jesus, so that we could have life through Him.

If you think you can be without sinning you have deceived yourself and have made your life of works and not faith in Jesus!

The word is clear Jesus is the one who is without sin and He is the one who changes you as you get to know Him.
You can not take credit for the change, you can do nothing of yourself, it's all Him.
It is your Faith in Jesus that saves you.
We can not stay in our sins when we abide in Him, He changes us as He reveals Himself to us, His goodness leads us to repentance.
We change and all things become new.
 
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Is it possible for a Christian to go by one day without sinning? You bet it is. It is even expected of us:

1Jn 3:6 Everyone who abides in Him does not sin. Everyone who sins has not seen Him nor known Him.


1Jn 3:9 Everyone who has been born of God does not commit sin, because His seed remains in him, and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.


1Jn 5:18 We know that everyone who has been born of God does not continue to sin, but the one born of God guards himself, and the evil one does not touch him.



We must not deny our sins and confess them as soon as possible, if we have sinned, however there is nothing in the bible, that says "I must say that I have sinned today just for the sake of saying it. " I am often amazed at the fatalistic attitude of, and bondage that some christians put others through, in demanding that others must sink to their level of seeing themself as a sinner, even if they in fact are not. I am sure there are christians out there who deliberately sin, or think less of their sins, just to prove their claims (or other's claims) that they are still sinners or have sin. The perception we have of ourself can be a powerful thing.
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hate to break it to you but you being born means that you are sin regardless of what you think you have or haven't done.
 
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SeekinHIM

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Dear Sis,

Wow this is great, it's good to hear the TRUTH which sets us FREE............

Thank you .


SeekinHIM
 
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look, we have confused the issue.

we were born in sin in our old life, the life after adam.

when we believed, god planted his seed in us. this seed is our new life, like a fetus, very small and weak, in comparrision to the old life.

this seed is perfect. completely without sin. this seed is who we are to grow into. this seed is spirit.

as we fellowship with jesus and with the father, through the spirit, this seed grows to become more of our life, replacing the old life, whose deeds we are putting to death by the spirit on the cross in jesus.,

the word of god grows in us, by the spirit, and thus we overcome the evil one.

as we fellowship with the father, we come to know him who is from the beginning, and we take on his nature, in the new life, which started as a small seed when we first believed. day by day, moment by moment, as we fellowship with him, we grow in him, until we sleep and go to be with him, or he returns, and we see him and are changed to be like him. he becomes more, and our new life in him grows, while the old sinful life dies anew each day.

but as we grow to know the father, we become even more aware of his holiness, and we see ourselves even clearer in this light. no one knows the true extent of their sinfulness until they meet the father in the holy place. without the work of jesus, we could not endure this vision for even one second of time. indeed, one second in that place can be an eternity.
 
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