Are Messianic Jews saved?

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Are they Christians? Why or why not? And don't put the down.
 

Magenta

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I would say yes, since they accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and saviour :)
 

MarcR

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Are they Christians? Why or why not? And don't put the down.
Lynn,

Messianic Jews are the same thing as Jewish believers.

I can't see any difference between this question and ' Are Scottish believers saved?"

A Scottish person who believes is still Scottish. A Jewish believer is still Jewish.

A Jewish believer, who calls himself Christian, will have no opportunity to share his faith with other Jewish people.

By calling himself/herself a Messianic Jew; he acknowledges that he is still Jewish: and can get fellow Jews to listen.
 

Ahwatukee

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Are they Christians? Why or why not? And don't put the down.
Why wouldn't they be saved? Once a person comes to Christ there is neither Jew nor Gentile, but they become apart of the body of Christ. The only thing that would keep them from salvation, is if they continued trusting in the law of Moses or works in general for salvation after coming to Christ, which would alienate them from Christ and cancel out salvation by grace as a free gift through faith.
 
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KennethC

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Like others have said yes they are because they accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior !!!

The only way they wouldn't be is like in the example given in Galatians, that if they return to the written ordinances of the Mosaic law to seek justification by it instead of through the Lord.
 

vic1980

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they are saved :)
 
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jb

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Are Scottish believers saved?"

A Scottish person who believes is still Scottish.. .
I'm half Scottish and half Irish, so which half of me is saved?

Answer: BOTH! :p

QED!
 

Jackson123

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www.shema.com › Messianic Judaism



What Is Messianic Judaism?
[/h]Messianic Judaism is a movement of Jewish people who believe that Yeshua (Jesus’ original name in Hebrew) is the Messiah of Israel and the Savior of the world. Yeshua is the most Jewish of Jews. Yeshua was a descendant of both Abraham and King David, was raised in a Jewish home and went to synagogue. He perfectly kept the entire Torah (see Galatians 4:4). He taught that He came to fulfill, not set aside, the Torah (see Matthew 5:17-19). He was a rabbi who performed unparalleled miracles, bringing great blessing
 
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Lynn,

Messianic Jews are the same thing as Jewish believers.

I can't see any difference between this question and ' Are Scottish believers saved?"

A Scottish person who believes is still Scottish. A Jewish believer is still Jewish.

A Jewish believer, who calls himself Christian, will have no opportunity to share his faith with other Jewish people.

By calling himself/herself a Messianic Jew; he acknowledges that he is still Jewish: and can get fellow Jews to listen.
I thought the same thing until I did some googling last night. Then I found out Jews who become Christians are consider Hebrew Christians. Messianic Jews are different. Part of the reason I'm asking.
 
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www.shema.com › Messianic Judaism


What Is Messianic Judaism?


Messianic Judaism is a movement of Jewish people who believe that Yeshua (Jesus’ original name in Hebrew) is the Messiah of Israel and the Savior of the world. Yeshua is the most Jewish of Jews. Yeshua was a descendant of both Abraham and King David, was raised in a Jewish home and went to synagogue. He perfectly kept the entire Torah (see Galatians 4:4). He taught that He came to fulfill, not set aside, the Torah (see Matthew 5:17-19). He was a rabbi who performed unparalleled miracles, bringing great blessing
Well now. I'm confused, because that's not what I learned in my research. :confused:
 

MarcR

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I thought the same thing until I did some googling last night. Then I found out Jews who become Christians are consider Hebrew Christians. Messianic Jews are different. Part of the reason I'm asking.
Lynn,

Whoever put up that website is publishing his own opinion! NOBODY appointed him to speak for Messianic Judaism!

The difference between a Hebrew Christian and a Messianic Jew is vocabulary preference!

It is like asking: Is a quarter a coin, or is it money? The answer is yes!

If anything, one might say that Messianic Jews are a denomination within the Church---- but even that is subject to argument; because many Messianic Jews, including myself, are members of mainstream churches and denominations.
 
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trofimus

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I am not sure, probably its individual.

Were Galatians saved? Some of them? Few of them? Many of them?

Depends on how seriously they take the Law and "acts for salvation".
 

blue_ladybug

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Lynn,

Whoever put up that website is publishing his own opinion! NOBODY appointed him to speak for Messianic Judaism!

The difference between a Hebrew Christian and a Messianic Jew is vocabulary preference!

It is like asking:Is a quarter a coin, or is it money? The answer is yes!

Technically, it's both a coin AND money.. ;) lol
 
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atwhatcost

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Lynn,

Whoever put up that website is publishing his own opinion! NOBODY appointed him to speak for Messianic Judaism!

The difference between a Hebrew Christian and a Messianic Jew is vocabulary preference!

It is like asking: Is a quarter a coin, or is it money? The answer is yes!

If anything, one might say that Messianic Jews are a denomination within the Church---- but even that is subject to argument; because many Messianic Jews, including myself, are members of mainstream churches and denominations.
Okay, before we go any further, sounds like I need to be clear about my opinion. I rather admire them. All the ones I've ever met know the Bible better than most Christians I've ever met.

That said, the reason I ask is two-fold. As of late, I see many on this site -- some who aren't into arguing even -- saying two things that surprised me.
1. Most Messianic Jews were never Jewish to start. (I don't know. Never asked. Didn't care, but that site seems to confirm that.)
2. They're legalists.

Now "legalists" has become code on here for "not saved," so I'm really checking if that is a common perception on this site.

So far? It doesn't seem to be, which is a good thing in my opinion.
 

MarcR

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Lynn,

Whoever put up that website is publishing his own opinion! NOBODY appointed him to speak for Messianic Judaism!

The difference between a Hebrew Christian and a Messianic Jew is vocabulary preference!

It is like asking:Is a quarter a coin, or is it money? The answer is yes!

Technically, it's both a coin AND money.. ;) lol

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Okay, before we go any further, sounds like I need to be clear about my opinion. I rather admire them. All the ones I've ever met know the Bible better than most Christians I've ever met.

That said, the reason I ask is two-fold. As of late, I see many on this site -- some who aren't into arguing even -- saying two things that surprised me.
1. Most Messianic Jews were never Jewish to start. (I don't know. Never asked. Didn't care, but that site seems to confirm that.)
2. They're legalists.

Now "legalists" has become code on here for "not saved," so I'm really checking if that is a common perception on this site.

So far? It doesn't seem to be, which is a good thing in my opinion.
Messianics fall into different groups. Some probably are legalistic. Don't confuse messianics with Hebrew Roots.
 
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FreeNChrist

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Are they Christians? Why or why not? And don't put the down.
Obviously, they self identify as Messianic Jews, not as Christians. No one is saved by the moniker they hang on themselves.
 

MarcR

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Okay, before we go any further, sounds like I need to be clear about my opinion. I rather admire them. All the ones I've ever met know the Bible better than most Christians I've ever met.

That said, the reason I ask is two-fold. As of late, I see many on this site -- some who aren't into arguing even -- saying two things that surprised me.
1. Most Messianic Jews were never Jewish to start. (I don't know. Never asked. Didn't care, but that site seems to confirm that.)
2. They're legalists.

Now "legalists" has become code on here for "not saved," so I'm really checking if that is a common perception on this site.

So far? It doesn't seem to be, which is a good thing in my opinion.
Two types of groups call themselves Messianic:

1) the Hebrew Roots movement is comprised of primarily gentile believers who want to put themselves and others back under Law.

2) ethnically Jewish believers, who integrate well with mainstream churches while finding many practices of ancient Judaism both helpful in understanding Jesus' teachings , and culturally appropriate.

Only the second group are Messianic Jews.