Who are those of synagogue of Satan in Revelation 2:9 and Revelation 3:9?

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EarsToHear

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Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.


Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
 
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Those who confess to be of Christ and are not make up the false tabernacle system. A Jew to God is one who is inward by the circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not outward according to the flesh.
 
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Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.


Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
They are the "children of darkness", the devil's elect here on earth.

Start in Genesis 4 and go forward, noting the pagan idolaters that crept in among Israel, especially among the tribe of Judah.

See the Book of Jude about certain ones ordained to the condemnation of working against Christ.

Note the phrase "workers of iniquity" in OT Scripture.

See the parable of the tares of the field Jesus gave in Matt.13.
 
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Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Scripture often used to make anti-Semitic and other claims applying to everybody who disagrees with some twisted theology, but there was real and rabid, Satanic opposition to the early church from the hierarchy of Judaism. The Lord Jesus was clear most of the Scribes and Pharisees were of the devil, children of hell, while claiming to be God's exclusive own. They were instrumental in the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, as Saul was instrumental in persecution of Christians, before he met Christ and became Paul of scripture. Scripture interprets scripture, those of the synagogue of Satan just that, evil, unregenerate Jews that say they are Jews, as scripture states, spiritual spawn of Satan, persecuting God's authentic called and chosen children in Christ.

It's a verse often abused, a good example how private interpretations and false prophecy are birthed, putting "words in the mouth of" scripture that aren't there. Read the likes of Matthew 23, for details of such synagogues. It's only common sense that synagogues in other geographies probably reacted similarly to Christians as at Jerusalem. Saul took his persecution on the road. I recall reading some infomation by a scholar who mentioned a Jewish-led persecution going on at Smyrna, but remember no details, whether there was something there or not, perhaps something on the web?
 
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Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.


Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

This is speaking of Judiazers who take and pervert the Gospel of Christ to do one of the three:

1) Seek justification by Mosaic law keeping (written ordinances only)

2) Teach a version of God's grace to allow lewdness/sinful behavior to continue in our lives

3) Teach apostate teachings
 
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Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.


Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Without giving the matter a lot of thought, the synagogue of Satan might be the prideful among us who pretend to be worshipers of God, who really are just trying to climb the social ladder.
 

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This is an important matter for those in Christ to understand, because it's about recognizing the true enemies of Christ that work here on earth. To not know and recognize them is to make it possible for them to deceive you, because just like the devil knows Scripture as shown in Luke 4 when he quoted a passage to our Lord with adding one small phrase to it, that's how deceptive these workers of iniquity are. I've yet to find a Christian online forum where they weren't present either.

It began with Cain murdering Abel and being cast to the land of Nod. See Gen.4 for the type of mentality. See about the gainsaying of Core per Jude, and about certain men that were ordained to work this condemnation of being against God and His Son.

In ancient Sumer (area of Babylon before it became Babylon), one of Semitic birth came to the Sumerians per their written history, and gave them knowledge of canal building, i.e., sciences, and he became their king. His name was Sargon I. He also began the first pagan dragon devil worship known in written history which became the Baal worship written of in God's Word which then trickled to other nations like ancient Egypt, Greece, far east, etc.

God gave the pagan Canaanites 430 years to repent according to when He spoke to Abraham, saying the iniquity of the Amorites was not yet then full (Gen.14). When He led the children of Israel out of captivity from Egypt, that's when He pronounced His judgment upon the nations of Canaan for the iniquities they were doing. Israel failed to destroy all the Canaanite nations which God told them to, so He said He would use those workers of iniquity to test Israel with, to see if His people would follow Him or not, that He would not drive those leftover Canaanites out from among them (Judges 2 & 3). Lot of those Canaanite leftovers became bondservants to Israel (Judges 9; 1 Kings 9).

Israel always had a problem with them, even making the mistake of marrying with them (Ezra 9). Per 1 Chronicles 2:55, the Kenites of the nation of Canaan mostly became Israel's scribes in charge of keeping God's Holy Writ, making copies, and keeping them in order, etc.

God told His people to not marry with them, because they would turn Israel's heart away from Him by their pagan influences and idols, which is exactly what happened in Solomon's day which is why God rent the kingdom of Israel in his days. This matter is still... in effect for today, believe it or not, and it will continue all the way up to Christ's return. It's about the hidden tares of the field in Jesus' parable of Matt.13. The problem is we cannot truly know who all these workers are, we can only know them by their works, judging their fruit like our Lord Jesus said.

One of the biggest proofs of their continued existence and influence is with the secret societies of fraternities of initiation into the "Mysteries" of occult paganism. These fraternities meet in secret, hold pagan style rites in secret recognizing the pagan religions of history and many things of the ancient arcana from ancient Egypt, Greece, Rome, etc. (see British Mason John Robison's work Proofs Of A Conspiracy written in 1798 for details of some of those initiations and rites and working against God's people).

This is why our Lord Jesus rebuked the scribes and Pharisees at His first coming (see John 8, as He compared them to the way of Cain, and being followers of the devil). The scribes (Kenites of Canaan) and many of the Pharisees (not all) were full of the old Canaanite bondservants that migrated in with Israel which eventually worked their way up into the priesthood (see Book of Ezra about the Nethinims and priests).

I know in most Churches this is never taught, because we want to think that the hearing of The Gospel can turn even the darkest soul to believe on Christ Jesus and become a member of His Body. It's true that His Salvation is open to them also IF they will hear and believe and follow Him. But the Jude 1:4 Scripture shows us that God has ordained these certain ones to be against Christ for this present world, and that won't change for this world:

Jude 4
4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
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Here i go again. Those that wrest the scriptures for fun and profit. And most 'churches' do it, if not all. They pound from the pulpit the lie of the tithe...so they dont have to work in a sweat shop. They have diotrephe-ized themselves up and over God's heritage. They withhold the saints from their spiritual gifts and functions. They relegate Christ to the back of the bus, thereby quencing the Spirit. Should i go on? nuff said.

Instead of the organized church being the remedy to man kind, it is the enemy of man kind. They may have the salvation message right, but the rest of it....not so good.
So the path is out of Egypt, the world, straight to Babylon, the church, out of Babylon to Jerusalem. Would to God someone would wake up already!
 
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EarsToHear

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This is an important matter for those in Christ to understand, because it's about recognizing the true enemies of Christ that work here on earth. To not know and recognize them is to make it possible for them to deceive you, because just like the devil knows Scripture as shown in Luke 4 when he quoted a passage to our Lord with adding one small phrase to it, that's how deceptive these workers of iniquity are. I've yet to find a Christian online forum where they weren't present either.

It began with Cain murdering Abel and being cast to the land of Nod. See Gen.4 for the type of mentality. See about the gainsaying of Core per Jude, and about certain men that were ordained to work this condemnation of being against God and His Son.

In ancient Sumer (area of Babylon before it became Babylon), one of Semitic birth came to the Sumerians per their written history, and gave them knowledge of canal building, i.e., sciences, and he became their king. His name was Sargon I. He also began the first pagan dragon devil worship known in written history which became the Baal worship written of in God's Word which then trickled to other nations like ancient Egypt, Greece, far east, etc.

God gave the pagan Canaanites 430 years to repent according to when He spoke to Abraham, saying the iniquity of the Amorites was not yet then full (Gen.14). When He led the children of Israel out of captivity from Egypt, that's when He pronounced His judgment upon the nations of Canaan for the iniquities they were doing. Israel failed to destroy all the Canaanite nations which God told them to, so He said He would use those workers of iniquity to test Israel with, to see if His people would follow Him or not, that He would not drive those leftover Canaanites out from among them (Judges 2 & 3). Lot of those Canaanite leftovers became bondservants to Israel (Judges 9; 1 Kings 9).

Israel always had a problem with them, even making the mistake of marrying with them (Ezra 9). Per 1 Chronicles 2:55, the Kenites of the nation of Canaan mostly became Israel's scribes in charge of keeping God's Holy Writ, making copies, and keeping them in order, etc.

God told His people to not marry with them, because they would turn Israel's heart away from Him by their pagan influences and idols, which is exactly what happened in Solomon's day which is why God rent the kingdom of Israel in his days. This matter is still... in effect for today, believe it or not, and it will continue all the way up to Christ's return. It's about the hidden tares of the field in Jesus' parable of Matt.13. The problem is we cannot truly know who all these workers are, we can only know them by their works, judging their fruit like our Lord Jesus said.

One of the biggest proofs of their continued existence and influence is with the secret societies of fraternities of initiation into the "Mysteries" of occult paganism. These fraternities meet in secret, hold pagan style rites in secret recognizing the pagan religions of history and many things of the ancient arcana from ancient Egypt, Greece, Rome, etc. (see British Mason John Robison's work Proofs Of A Conspiracy written in 1798 for details of some of those initiations and rites and working against God's people).

This is why our Lord Jesus rebuked the scribes and Pharisees at His first coming (see John 8, as He compared them to the way of Cain, and being followers of the devil). The scribes (Kenites of Canaan) and many of the Pharisees (not all) were full of the old Canaanite bondservants that migrated in with Israel which eventually worked their way up into the priesthood (see Book of Ezra about the Nethinims and priests).

I know in most Churches this is never taught, because we want to think that the hearing of The Gospel can turn even the darkest soul to believe on Christ Jesus and become a member of His Body. It's true that His Salvation is open to them also IF they will hear and believe and follow Him. But the Jude 1:4 Scripture shows us that God has ordained these certain ones to be against Christ for this present world, and that won't change for this world:

Jude 4
4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
KJV
Thanks for an excellent answer.


Genesis 3:15 And I (God speaking) will put enmity (hostility/trouble) between thee (Satan) and the woman (Eve), and between thy seed (offspring) and her seed (offspring); it shall bruise thy head (Satan cast into the lake of fire), and thou shalt bruise his heel (Christ nailed to the cross).
 

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The response is in the quoted verse.......they are those who say they are Jews and are not.

A Jew, by translation of its origin, Yahudah, is a praiser of Yahweh. In other words, anyone who praises God.

Any church that says it is following the Lamb of God, but does not is a synagogue of Satan.

Does everyone know that the word synagogue is from the Greek, and it may be used in reference to any house of worship?
 
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i have a question... should we not be circumcision of the heart for that is where He writes His laws, by the Spirit for that is the gift His Son gave He called the Comforter, and also by the flesh for was not His Son God in the flesh? please let me know after considering and calling on God to give you the wisdom that i really need now considering my last prayer...thank you InSpiritInTruth
 
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i have a question... should we not be circumcision of the heart for that is where He writes His laws, by the Spirit for that is the gift His Son gave He called the Comforter, and also by the flesh for was not His Son God in the flesh? please let me know after considering and calling on God to give you the wisdom that i really need now considering my last prayer...thank you InSpiritInTruth
I know you wrote this to InSpiritInTruth but I wanted to answer you if I may !!!

Yes we are to be circumcised in the heart in the new covenant, that is the Spiritual understanding that was portray by the Apostle Paul in Romans 2:29.

The circumcision mentioned in Acts 15 is the actual physical circumcision of the flesh (foreskin) stated in the OT and written ordinances.

This is why getting into debates about the law becomes useless if the one/s we are speaking to do not understand the difference between the physical and Spiritual usage of the law !!!
 
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i have a question... should we not be circumcision of the heart for that is where He writes His laws, by the Spirit for that is the gift His Son gave He called the Comforter, and also by the flesh for was not His Son God in the flesh? please let me know after considering and calling on God to give you the wisdom that i really need now considering my last prayer...thank you InSpiritInTruth
That's correct, the circumcision of the heart is the fulfilling of the sign shown in the Everlasting Covenant given to Abraham by faith. But that promise is realized in a new and Living way in the New Testament given by Jesus, which is written on our hearts by the Living Word of God (Christ in us) by way of the Holy Spirit writing His words upon our hearts. This being given a new heart and removing the old hard heart of stone is only done by being born again of the Holy Spirit, and being made a new creation in Christ.

Remember, for by One Spirit we are all baptized into One Body.
 
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good morning by the way :rolleyes: did you see my ? for i saw where you agreed with me brother but not of the ? and no i don't speak of OT law regarding circumsion of the flesh i speak of the Lord God in the flesh New testament circumsion of all three, Heart Spirit and Flesh? please let me know
 
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good morning by the way :rolleyes: did you see my ? for i saw where you agreed with me brother but not of the ? and no i don't speak of OT law regarding circumsion of the flesh i speak of the Lord God in the flesh New testament circumsion of all three, Heart Spirit and Flesh? please let me know
Sorry, I misunderstood. If your asking about it being needful to be circumcised in the physical flesh, then no it is not needful.

Here is proof...Galatians 6:15
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
 

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Anything that promotes self instead of Christ, follows flesh instead of the Spirit, pushes law instead of grace, exalts itself instead of humbling itself, takes instead of gives, charges instead of giving freely, doing instead of being, is Babylon, the sin-agogue of satan. The organized church.
 

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Quite a bit more to that analogy.

Rev 17:16
16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
KJV

Some may disagree, but the harlot of Rev.17 is about Jerusalem. That is where the center of Satan's beast kingdom will be for the end. Revelation 11 even shows this concerning the one who kills God's two witnesses there.

Satan hates what Jerusalem (city of peace) stands for after God gave David to conquer it, and God claimed it forever and to dwell there. Prior to that Jerusalem was a pagan city belonging to the Canaanites, called Jebus.

Gen 12:6-7
6 And Abram passed through the land unto the place of Sichem, unto the plain of Moreh. And the Canaanite was then in the land.
7 And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, Who appeared unto him.
KJV


When God told Abram to get up and go to the land of Canaan, that was in prep for God claiming it from Satan's servants who were already there. That passage, "And the Canaanite was then in the land", is like a proclamation to that effect, that Satan already knew about God's designs for the land and thus the devil had his servants ready for battle, already in the land.

The Babylon Harlot of Revelation represents Satan trying to reclaim Jerusalem in the last days, and turn it back into a pagan city like it was when it was possessed by the Canaanites. Because Satan will use the deceived Jews in that, he and his will still hate them.