JESUS IS WILLING, BE HEALED!

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Psalm 103:1-5 (NASB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Bless the LORD, O my soul, And all that is within me, bless His holy name.
[SUP]2 [/SUP] Bless the LORD, O my soul, And forget none of His benefits;
[SUP]3 [/SUP] Who pardons all your iniquities, Who heals all your diseases;
[SUP]4 [/SUP] Who redeems your life from the pit, Who crowns you with lovingkindness and compassion;
[SUP]5 [/SUP] Who satisfies your years with good things,
So that your youth is renewed like the eagle.
 

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You know, sometimes I think the problem arises for people not getting healed because they only believe God can. Not that He will, but that its possible. Its like supernatural protection, do you believe God can protect you, or does He protect you? One is a matter of done and the other is, "if He feels like it."

In the same way we know Jesus was whipped and went to the cross and through His stripes we have been healed. Spiritually, yes but salvation encompasses wholeness and healing is a part of that package. So it isn't so much a matter of believing God can heal, we know He can(without question). The question is, will God heal you? Is He willing? Better yet, has He healed you?

That last question may seem perplexing, but give me a moment to explain. Is it a possibility that God has healed you, but it has yet manifested into reality? I'm not talking about any new age concepts, but simply that you must turn in the check as it were. Jesus paid not only for your sins, but through His suffering has granted you healing.

So, instead of thinking that God can heal you, maybe one should place faith in Jesus that He has healed you. That it is done, finished. So no longer are you in a place of doubt, pondering whether your heavenly Father will heal you, but you praise Him for that which He has already done thereby expediting the healing process. It is a matter of expectation, not just mercy. Its a person using faith to obtain that which God has already done, or will do, depending on your faith.

Either way, its a faith that says God is willing and not just recognizing that He can. He can do a lot of things in your life, but are you willing to believe? That is the question.
 

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Yes Jesus is willing in fact he was stricken that you might be healed how can anyone deny scripture? The woman with a issue of blood was heralded why?
 
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Cleanse first that which is on the inside of the vessel, that the outside may also become clean. :)
 
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This is what heals us, our faith that we are going to be healed, by believing that it is going to happen. But God want us to give Him all the glory by saying that the reason whom gave us this knowledge about what we can do; that is why it says in to say it in the name of Jesus, not Paul, Apollo and etc...But give Him the all the credit.

Matthew 9:22 Jesus turned and saw her. “Take heart, daughter,” he said, “your faith has healed you.” And the woman was healed at that moment.

Matthew 9:29 Then he touched their eyes and said, “According to your faith let it be done to you”;
 

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What to do if you would like to be healed? You have to know God do this help for His Children only.Of course, everybody suppose to have the God's faith. It's mean the Church elders and the sick person. Let us to the read about this; KJV.Mark9;23, 23.Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all thing are possible to him that believeth; KJV.James5;14-16,14. If any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the Church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord;15. And the prayer of faith shall the save the sick, and the Lord shall rise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.16.Confess you faults one to another, and pray one for anothe, that you may be healed.The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much; As we read on the last verse, righteous people have to pray for you only.
 
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Amen!

It looks like the operative word there too is "elders"...this means elders in the faith...just because someone has been a Christian for 50 years doesn't mean that they know Christ and what He has done for us. It says the "prayer of faith"..if an "elder " is just "hoping" something will happen...then that "elder" is not really praying in faith....and of course nothing most likely will not happen.


What to do if you would like to be healed? You have to know God do this help for His Children only.Of course, everybody suppose to have the God's faith. It's mean the Church elders and the sick person. Let us to the read about this; KJV.Mark9;23, 23.Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all thing are possible to him that believeth; KJV.James5;14-16,14. If any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the Church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord;15. And the prayer of faith shall the save the sick, and the Lord shall rise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.16.Confess you faults one to another, and pray one for anothe, that you may be healed.The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much; As we read on the last verse, righteous people have to pray for you only.
 

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What that mean to have God's faith for us? KJV.Hebrews11;1,1.Now faith is the sabstance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen;During our life in here,We're bild our faith habit when we're walk with Him in His Word.This kind of Christians are stay very closed to Him in their life.They couldn't care about everything else.He's just do it everything for them according their faith.
 

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Of course, they so glad to use their faith to help sick Christians on this way.For some of them, it's the best way to serve the Lord.
 

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You know, sometimes I think the problem arises for people not getting healed because they only believe God can. Not that He will, but that its possible. Its like supernatural protection, do you believe God can protect you, or does He protect you? One is a matter of done and the other is, "if He feels like it."

In the same way we know Jesus was whipped and went to the cross and through His stripes we have been healed. Spiritually, yes but salvation encompasses wholeness and healing is a part of that package. So it isn't so much a matter of believing God can heal, we know He can(without question). The question is, will God heal you? Is He willing? Better yet, has He healed you?

That last question may seem perplexing, but give me a moment to explain. Is it a possibility that God has healed you, but it has yet manifested into reality? I'm not talking about any new age concepts, but simply that you must turn in the check as it were. Jesus paid not only for your sins, but through His suffering has granted you healing.

So, instead of thinking that God can heal you, maybe one should place faith in Jesus that He has healed you. That it is done, finished. So no longer are you in a place of doubt, pondering whether your heavenly Father will heal you, but you praise Him for that which He has already done thereby expediting the healing process. It is a matter of expectation, not just mercy. Its a person using faith to obtain that which God has already done, or will do, depending on your faith.

Either way, its a faith that says God is willing and not just recognizing that He can. He can do a lot of things in your life, but are you willing to believe? That is the question.

God does protect me. From becoming sick, and He has even kept me around this long. Sure as the pope is catholic :)p), and the 'ol bear poops in the woods, I'm convinced, I'd a been a long time fertilizing flowers.
 
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You know, sometimes I think the problem arises for people not getting healed because they only believe God can. Not that He will, but that its possible. Its like supernatural protection, do you believe God can protect you, or does He protect you? One is a matter of done and the other is, "if He feels like it."

In the same way we know Jesus was whipped and went to the cross and through His stripes we have been healed. Spiritually, yes but salvation encompasses wholeness and healing is a part of that package. So it isn't so much a matter of believing God can heal, we know He can(without question). The question is, will God heal you? Is He willing? Better yet, has He healed you?

That last question may seem perplexing, but give me a moment to explain. Is it a possibility that God has healed you, but it has yet manifested into reality? I'm not talking about any new age concepts, but simply that you must turn in the check as it were. Jesus paid not only for your sins, but through His suffering has granted you healing.

So, instead of thinking that God can heal you, maybe one should place faith in Jesus that He has healed you. That it is done, finished. So no longer are you in a place of doubt, pondering whether your heavenly Father will heal you, but you praise Him for that which He has already done thereby expediting the healing process. It is a matter of expectation, not just mercy. Its a person using faith to obtain that which God has already done, or will do, depending on your faith.

Either way, its a faith that says God is willing and not just recognizing that He can. He can do a lot of things in your life, but are you willing to believe? That is the question.
Great post. What you mentioned in your second to the last paragraph requires faith: praising Him for the healing that His word indicates is ours.

Here's a verse to consider along the line of believing for healing, and praising God for it by faith.

Psalm 50:23, "Whoso offereth praise glorifieth me and to him who orders his conversation aright will I shew the salvation of God." KJV



 
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Dan58

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"And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease"
(Matthew 10:1). This authority (gift) was granted to the twelve, and later included the 70. Remember when he sent the 70, two by two and gave them the same power? So it was a very small group who received this ability; "Truly the signs of an apostle were wrought among you in all patience, in signs, and wonders, and mighty deeds" (2 Corinthians 12:12). They were limited in scope, only casting out demons and healing diseases, and they were limited in terms of who received them, only the Apostles and the 70 commissioned directly by Jesus, and some who worked alongside the Apostles. It never went beyond that. The gift of healing was a temporary sign for the authenticating of those who wrote the Scripture and those who preached the message in that first century. Once the Scripture was completed and that authenticity was established, the gift of healing ceased. Link; Does God Still Heal?

 

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"And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease"
(Matthew 10:1). This authority (gift) was granted to the twelve, and later included the 70. Remember when he sent the 70, two by two and gave them the same power? So it was a very small group who received this ability; "Truly the signs of an apostle were wrought among you in all patience, in signs, and wonders, and mighty deeds" (2 Corinthians 12:12). They were limited in scope, only casting out demons and healing diseases, and they were limited in terms of who received them, only the Apostles and the 70 commissioned directly by Jesus, and some who worked alongside the Apostles. It never went beyond that. The gift of healing was a temporary sign for the authenticating of those who wrote the Scripture and those who preached the message in that first century. Once the Scripture was completed and that authenticity was established, the gift of healing ceased. Link; Does God Still Heal?

This is the lie taught in many churches. Is sad that those who profess kowing God have such little understanding of the workings of the Holy Spirit and the bible. God changes not! For the Spirit moves how He wills not as man decides. Yes God does still heal! It never was man doing the healing. To God be the Glory!

You would have a hard time saying such nonsense to the many I have prayed for and they have recovered by the demonstrated Power of God's LOVE. Is far better to speak of things you know then to speak and be proven a fool.
 

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This is the lie taught in many churches. Is sad that those who profess kowing God have such little understanding of the workings of the Holy Spirit and the bible. God changes not! For the Spirit moves how He wills not as man decides. Yes God does still heal! It never was man doing the healing. To God be the Glory!

You would have a hard time saying such nonsense to the many I have prayed for and they have recovered by the demonstrated Power of God's LOVE. Is far better to speak of things you know then to speak and be proven a fool.
I never said God can't or doesn't heal.. But show me a "healer"? Christ and the apostles performed miraculous miracles, giving the blind sight, the lame walk, raising the dead, etc. That power doesn't exist today, and unless you've seen it first hand or can show me the person who's capable of performing such miracles, I haven't been proven a fool.. Imo, any person claiming to perform such miracles is a charlatan, and a close examination of evidence will prove me correct.

Jesus said; "Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe" (John 4:48). That was the purpose, to "confirm the word with signs" (Mark 16:20). Why did Jesus raise Lazarus from the dead? "Because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me" (John 11:42). Today we are called by faith, not proof via miracles. Jesus told Thomas; "Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed." (John 20:29).


 
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Mark 16:17-20 (NASB)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] "These signs will accompany those who have believed: in My name they will cast out demons, they will speak with new tongues;

[SUP]18 [/SUP] they will pick up serpents, and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover."

[SUP]19 [/SUP] So then, when the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, He was received up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God.

[SUP]20 [/SUP] And they went out and preached everywhere, while the Lord worked with them, and confirmed the word by the signs that followed.

If we don't speak the word..there will be no signs.....faith comes from hearing and hearing from the word of Christ....selah.
 
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I believe that the biggest things we have to learn is that almost everything that God is going to do.... He has already done in His Son.

Jesus said It is Finished and often God points out in His Word what we have received. It is sad that the church has postponed so much to "when we get to heaven then....." (heaven is a temp. place anyway until Christ comes back to the earth and will take us with Him to receive our new bodies here) and missing out.

We sometimes say, God doesn't heal anymore in the same way He doesn't save anymore :) as Jesus paid for all sin, sickness and bondage 2000 years ago the cross and it is done deal (1 Peter 2:24), though it is true that the Holy Spirits draws us close, we made that decision to believe in His finished work. The sad thing is that we were never told that healing and deliverance were also part of that same package, the atonement.

John G Lake often told the people that if they would accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior that they would be healed as well as Jesus did both and guess what, often people took hold of that and experienced healing the same moment their spirit got born again. How can they believe without hearing and how can they hear without being preached at?

The Bible gives us only two reasons for failure. Jesus said to the Pharisees. Because of your traditions you make of no effect the Word of God and often these tradition that we have done for so long in church keep us just like the Pharisees to believe His Word. Then there is Jesus who told His very own disciples that they could not heal the boy because of the unbelief in Matthew 17:20. See that Jesus didn't rebuke that boy for not having enough faith but the ones who prayed, His disciples (despite that they had seen already a lot of healings before, this one was tough) as so often when there are no results the blame is put on sick person and such accusation comes straight out of hell.

Jesus never, ever said to someone directly that he/she could not be healed because of a lack of faith as He prayed Himself and applied His faith. Yes, often He said to those that stepped out in faith (think about the woman with the issue of blood who said in her heart, if I touch the hemb of his garment I shall be healed - she determined how things would go) your faith has made you well.

If we don't know the Lords will in a certain area there is no way we ever will be able to pray in faith, to thank Him that we have received that, what we have prayed for, without seeing it yet according to Mark 11:24.

The good thing is that Jesus said to the guy who asked Him, Lord, if you are willing you can make me clean (in the Greek the ongoing tense is many times not properly translated)...I am always willing! Enjoy the video brothers and sisters.

Dan Mohler - Why didn't it work?

[video=youtube;-hKEYG3JdPk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hKEYG3JdPk[/video]
 

un2him

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I never said God can't or doesn't heal.. But show me a "healer"? Christ and the apostles performed miraculous miracles, giving the blind sight, the lame walk, raising the dead, etc. That power doesn't exist today, and unless you've seen it first hand or can show me the person who's capable of performing such miracles, I haven't been proven a fool.. Imo, any person claiming to perform such miracles is a charlatan, and a close examination of evidence will prove me correct.

Jesus said; "Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe" (John 4:48). That was the purpose, to "confirm the word with signs" (Mark 16:20). Why did Jesus raise Lazarus from the dead? "Because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me" (John 11:42). Today we are called by faith, not proof via miracles. Jesus told Thomas; "Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed." (John 20:29).


Dan
You can find scripture to support any conclusion you wish to believe that is your choice.

However when you study and see that there is so much in the word about what the Lord has given to us who believe. It isn't about what we see that our faith is based upon... it is the word of God. If He says those who believe can do these things and greater does that make Him a lier?

I understand this is the belief you have and until God shows you different you will remain.

God showed me early in my journey I had only accepted the Lord a week before and was taking care of a man who had a stroke. I knew nothing about Christianity then but was reading the bible one night and shared what I was reading with Sam. After I was finished I asked Sam if he could believe in Jesus if He could heal him, after a long pause I looked at Sam and as he looked up to me he said yes and with tears in his eyes I asked him what was the matter? He said to me he was healed!

These tears were tears of Joy as we both rejoiced in what the Lord had done his withered left side was completely restored.

I understand this might jolt your faith in God but I have prayed for several others since then and many have recovered, have all no. Was it me no it was God who heals. God loves us and for those who believe great things do happen.
 
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Well said....healing is definitely in the true gospel message.....as can be seen when Paul preached the gospel in Lystra. in Acts 14.

Acts 14:7-10 (NASB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] and there they continued to preach the gospel. [SUP]8 [/SUP] At Lystra a man was sitting who had no strength in his feet, lame from his mother's womb, who had never walked.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] This man was listening to Paul as he spoke, who, when he had fixed his gaze on him and had seen that he had faith to be made well,
[SUP]10 [/SUP] said with a loud voice, "Stand upright on your feet." And he leaped up and began to walk.

Paul was preaching the GOSPEL.... the man lame was listening to Paul and then he had faith to be made whole...where did this man get faith to be made whole in his body?

Romans 10:17 (NASB)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ.

The man that was lame from birth heard in the preaching of the gospel of the grace of Christ that he could be made whole. He believed...Paul saw it in him and encouraged him to act on his faith.

Healing is a part of the gospel of the grace of Christ as the being born-again is.




I believe that the biggest things we have to learn is that almost everything that God is going to do.... He has already done in His Son.

Jesus said It is Finished and often God points out in His Word what we have received. It is sad that the church has postponed so much to "when we get to heaven then....." (heaven is a temp. place anyway until Christ comes back to the earth and will take us with Him to receive our new bodies here) and missing out.

We sometimes say, God doesn't heal anymore in the same way He doesn't save anymore :) as Jesus paid for all sin, sickness and bondage 2000 years ago the cross and it is done deal (1 Peter 2:24), though it is true that the Holy Spirits draws us close, we made that decision to believe in His finished work. The sad thing is that we were never told that healing and deliverance were also part of that same package, the atonement.

John G Lake often told the people that if they would accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior that they would be healed as well as Jesus did both and guess what, often people took hold of that and experienced healing the same moment their spirit got born again. How can they believe without hearing and how can they hear without being preached at?

The Bible gives us only two reasons for failure. Jesus said to the Pharisees. Because of your traditions you make of no effect the Word of God and often these tradition that we have done for so long in church keep us just like the Pharisees to believe His Word. Then there is Jesus who told His very own disciples that they could not heal the boy because of the unbelief in Matthew 17:20. See that Jesus didn't rebuke that boy for not having enough faith but the ones who prayed, His disciples (despite that they had seen already a lot of healings before, this one was tough) as so often when there are no results the blame is put on sick person and such accusation comes straight out of hell.

Jesus never, ever said to someone directly that he/she could not be healed because of a lack of faith as He prayed Himself and applied His faith. Yes, often He said to those that stepped out in faith (think about the woman with the issue of blood who said in her heart, if I touch the hemb of his garment I shall be healed - she determined how things would go) your faith has made you well.

If we don't know the Lords will in a certain area there is no way we ever will be able to pray in faith, to thank Him that we have received that, what we have prayed for, without seeing it yet according to Mark 11:24.

The good thing is that Jesus said to the guy who asked Him, Lord, if you are willing you can make me clean (in the Greek the ongoing tense is many times not properly translated)...I am always willing! Enjoy the video brothers and sisters.

Dan Mohler - Why didn't it work?
 
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This video helps to explain some things about healing....


[video=youtube;67B_iQr-wWE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67B_iQr-wWE[/video]
 
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I never said God can't or doesn't heal.. But show me a "healer"? Christ and the apostles performed miraculous miracles, giving the blind sight, the lame walk, raising the dead, etc. That power doesn't exist today, and unless you've seen it first hand or can show me the person who's capable of performing such miracles, I haven't been proven a fool.. Imo, any person claiming to perform such miracles is a charlatan, and a close examination of evidence will prove me correct.

Jesus said; "Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe" (John 4:48). That was the purpose, to "confirm the word with signs" (Mark 16:20). Why did Jesus raise Lazarus from the dead? "Because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me" (John 11:42). Today we are called by faith, not proof via miracles. Jesus told Thomas; "Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed." (John 20:29).


Brother, I know your perspective on this. This was the perspective taught to me by the one who led me to Jesus many years ago. He taught me that miracles were only for the Apostles and the early church. It is a wrong teaching. It's a teaching that gets license in a society where the church is, sadly, often weak and powerless. Why would you believe otherwise? Except for one thing, the bible indicates otherwise.

The most outstanding miracle that God does every day is to bring people to faith in Jesus unto salvation. This I firmly believe.
God does this by involving His representatives on earth, His church most of the time. I believe he often endorses the message by miraculous wonders, words of knowledge or healings or deliverances of other types. And he doesn't even limit healings to believers, contrary to what some might think. These are frequently delivered by his church (his body).

Healings are not God's greatest gifts, but gifts of healing are mentioned in 1 Corithians 14, along with other gifts God can give by His Spirit. This letter, dictated by the Apostle Paul but inspired by the Holy Spirit was first directed to the believers in Corinth. It was not directed to the 12 disciples, minus one, or the seventy two.

You came to faith in Jesus by a leap of faith, believing in a Jesus you have never seen in the flesh. The Christian life is a journey of faith and through that faith discovery. Please at least take a humble, fall back stance of, "OK, I have never experienced this myself, but that doesn't mean it is not possible, so I'm just gonna keep an open mind." If you speak out against it, you could be in danger of quenching The Spirit. Not good my friend.

The salvation in Christ is delivered by his "little Jesus's" here on earth; it potentially has no limit in the freedom of deliverance it affords, because "All the promises of God are 'yes' and 'amen' in Christ.

Blessings my friend.