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Billyd

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I have a simple question.

Does God hold those who lead people away from him by teaching false interpretations of scripture as fact, accountable for their actions?


 

phil36

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I think 2 PET 2:1-2 and James 3:1-2 speak about this very topic
 
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I'm sure that the Lord will have a lot to say about how men have had their own interpretations of the scriptures when there is only one interpretation of the scriptures and that is what the Holy Spirit says it is.

I ask myself 3 questions when looking at teachings:

1) Does it make Jesus bigger and more majestic?

2) Does it make me depend on myself or totally on what Jesus has done in His finished work on our behalf?

3) Does it make me love the Lord Jesus and the Father in a deeper way as I see Him...more in love with His word...more in love with others...and live a live more separated unto Him as I see Him for who He really is to me?
 

notuptome

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Lu 17:1 Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come!

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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I'd say it is very possible my interpretation of most anything doesn't match God's. But, you see, probably, neither does yours.
 

crossnote

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I have a simple question.

Does God hold those who lead people away from him by teaching false interpretations of scripture as fact, accountable for their actions?


Most of these types aren't His in the first place and the ones that are He chastises..

They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
(1Jn 2:19)


And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
(Heb 12:5-6)
 

crossnote

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I'd say it is very possible my interpretation of most anything doesn't match God's. But, you see, probably, neither does yours.
Is that like 'tails I win, heads you lose'? Sly guy.
 

Blain

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I have no doubt some my understanding and interpretation of scripture is incorrect and most likely it's possible I have misled some with it and if I am to be held accountable for this then so be it I will take accountability for it. But I think he does things different for those who lead others astray out of ignorance and lack of understanding than with those who purposely mislead his flock
 

notuptome

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I'd say it is very possible my interpretation of most anything doesn't match God's. But, you see, probably, neither does yours.
God knows your heart. What is hidden from me is open before God.

Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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I have a simple question.

Does God hold those who lead people away from him by teaching false interpretations of scripture as fact, accountable for their actions?


Questions for you: Do you remember something you thought was right about God only to find out later you got that wrong? In the time you thought it was right, did you ever teach it to someone else? Are you accountable for that?

Full answer: Everyone is accountable for everything we've ever done. The main difference is some of us were chosen by God to be redeemed of that huge debit column through Jesus paying off our debt. The math is right, the person paying the bill changed. Got that and the accountability aspect changes. Don't have it and you pay your own bill at a steep price.
 

crossnote

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I have no doubt some my understanding and interpretation of scripture is incorrect and most likely it's possible I have misled some with it and if I am to be held accountable for this then so be it I will take accountability for it. But I think he does things different for those who lead others astray out of ignorance and lack of understanding than with those who purposely mislead his flock
This is true, but I think most all who mislead really believe their own lie.:rolleyes:
 
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Complete_In_Him

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Some instant thoughts that came into my mind as I read OP & the thread;

1) [SUP]12 [/SUP]They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

2) [SUP]11 [/SUP]For there is no respect of persons with God.

3) We must give an account.

[SUP]10 [/SUP]For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
 

Magenta

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The one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked. Luke 12:48
 
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I have a simple question.

Does God hold those who lead people away from him by teaching false interpretations of scripture as fact, accountable for their actions?


Certainly people who knowingly lead people away from the Lord receive a harsh judgment. A lot of teachers do this, apparently because it makes them popular.
 
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I have a simple question.

Does God hold those who lead people away from him by teaching false interpretations of scripture as fact, accountable for their actions?


Jeremiah 23(KJV)23 Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the Lord.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]Therefore thus saith the Lord God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the Lord.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them, and will bring them again to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And I will set up shepherds over them which shall feed them: and they shall fear no more, nor be dismayed, neither shall they be lacking, saith the Lord.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, The Lord Our Righteousness.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that they shall no more say, The Lord liveth, which brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;
[SUP]8 [/SUP]But, The Lord liveth, which brought up and which led the seed of the house of Israel out of the north country, and from all countries whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in their own land.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Mine heart within me is broken because of the prophets; all my bones shake; I am like a drunken man, and like a man whom wine hath overcome, because of the Lord, and because of the words of his holiness.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For the land is full of adulterers; for because of swearing the land mourneth; the pleasant places of the wilderness are dried up, and their course is evil, and their force is not right.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]For both prophet and priest are profane; yea, in my house have I found their wickedness, saith the Lord.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Wherefore their way shall be unto them as slippery ways in the darkness: they shall be driven on, and fall therein: for I will bring evil upon them, even the year of their visitation, saith the Lord.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And I have seen folly in the prophets of Samaria; they prophesied in Baal, and caused my people Israel to err.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]I have seen also in the prophets of Jerusalem an horrible thing: they commit adultery, and walk in lies: they strengthen also the hands of evildoers, that none doth return from his wickedness; they are all of them unto me as Sodom, and the inhabitants thereof as Gomorrah.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Therefore thus saith the Lord of hosts concerning the prophets; Behold, I will feed them with wormwood, and make them drink the water of gall: for from the prophets of Jerusalem is profaneness gone forth into all the land.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Thus saith the Lord of hosts, Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you: they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, and not out of the mouth of the Lord.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]They say still unto them that despise me, The Lord hath said, Ye shall have peace; and they say unto every one that walketh after the imagination of his own heart, No evil shall come upon you.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]For who hath stood in the counsel of the Lord, and hath perceived and heard his word? who hath marked his word, and heard it?
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Behold, a whirlwind of the Lord is gone forth in fury, even a grievous whirlwind: it shall fall grievously upon the head of the wicked.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]The anger of the Lord shall not return, until he have executed, and till he have performed the thoughts of his heart: in the latter days ye shall consider it perfectly.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused my people to hear my words, then they should have turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings.
[SUP]23 [/SUP]Am I a God at hand, saith the Lord, and not a God afar off?
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the Lord. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the Lord.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]I have heard what the prophets said, that prophesy lies in my name, saying, I have dreamed, I have dreamed.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets that prophesy lies? yea, they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart;
[SUP]27 [/SUP]Which think to cause my people to forget my name by their dreams which they tell every man to his neighbour, as their fathers have forgotten my name for Baal.
[SUP]28 [/SUP]The prophet that hath a dream, let him tell a dream; and he that hath my word, let him speak my word faithfully. What is the chaff to the wheat? saith the Lord.
[SUP]29 [/SUP]Is not my word like as a fire? saith the Lord; and like a hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces?
[SUP]30 [/SUP]Therefore, behold, I am against the prophets, saith the Lord, that steal my words every one from his neighbour.
[SUP]31 [/SUP]Behold, I am against the prophets, saith the Lord, that use their tongues, and say, He saith.
[SUP]32 [/SUP]Behold, I am against them that prophesy false dreams, saith the Lord, and do tell them, and cause my people to err by their lies, and by their lightness; yet I sent them not, nor commanded them: therefore they shall not profit this people at all, saith the Lord.
[SUP]33 [/SUP]And when this people, or the prophet, or a priest, shall ask thee, saying, What is the burden of the Lord? thou shalt then say unto them, What burden? I will even forsake you, saith the Lord.
[SUP]34 [/SUP]And as for the prophet, and the priest, and the people, that shall say, The burden of the Lord, I will even punish that man and his house.
[SUP]35 [/SUP]Thus shall ye say every one to his neighbour, and every one to his brother, What hath the Lord answered? and, What hath the Lord spoken?
[SUP]36 [/SUP]And the burden of the Lord shall ye mention no more: for every man's word shall be his burden; for ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the Lord of hosts our God.
[SUP]37 [/SUP]Thus shalt thou say to the prophet, What hath the Lord answered thee? and, What hath the Lord spoken?
[SUP]38 [/SUP]But since ye say, The burden of the Lord; therefore thus saith the Lord; Because ye say this word, The burden of the Lord, and I have sent unto you, saying, Ye shall not say, The burden of the Lord;
[SUP]39 [/SUP]Therefore, behold, I, even I, will utterly forget you, and I will forsake you, and the city that I gave you and your fathers, and cast you out of my presence:
[SUP]40 [/SUP]And I will bring an everlasting reproach upon you, and a perpetual shame, which shall not be forgotten."
 
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Complete_In_Him

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This is good too,

[SUP]8 [/SUP]For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.

[SUP]9 [/SUP]For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.

[SUP]10 [/SUP]But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

[SUP]11 [/SUP]For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

[SUP]12 [/SUP]So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

[SUP]13 [/SUP]Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.
 
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Complete_In_Him

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We must know the doctrine of our house. We must teach & preach according to Christ, the gospel of the grace of God and the right set of blueprints, according to our inheritance and our vocational position. We have an appointment of judgment in the household, as the one new man. Good thread topic.
 
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I have a simple question.

Does God hold those who lead people away from him by teaching false interpretations of scripture as fact, accountable for their actions?


John 9:41 Jesus said, “If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin; but now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains.

Matthew 23:13 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.

Matthew 18:6 “If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.


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