After the rainbow

[integerlost]

You know that passage in the old testament where God makes a rainbow after the flood, and says this is a sign to you that I'll never flood the earth again.

Now a rainbow is caused by light refracting through a prism. Water droplets act as a prism, but how did rainbow not exist before the flood.

Now God has asked me to post this question because I haven't worked this one out yet, and he wont add anything beyond my current system of thinking. This is so ill learn at my at my own pace, so what do you think? Any ideas.

 

[Dino246]

Where does it say in the Bible that the rainbow which God pointed out to Noah was the first rainbow ever? It may have been, it may not have been. Either way, it is God's sign to us regarding His promise. For some technical reasons, it may have been the first one Noah saw, but I couldn't prove that.

Concluding that it was the first rainbow ever is making the mistake of "arguing from silence". Where the Bible doesn't say something, that something can be argued either way, because there is no objective truth from Scripture to resolve the question. It's best to avoid being dogmatic about such issues.

 

[integerlost]

Where does it say in the Bible that the rainbow which God pointed out to Noah was the first rainbow ever? It may have been, it may not have been. Either way, it is God's sign to us regarding His promise. For some technical reasons, it may have been the first one Noah saw, but I couldn't prove that.

Concluding that it was the first rainbow ever is making the mistake of "arguing from silence". Where the Bible doesn't say something, that something can be argued either way, because there is no objective truth from Scripture to resolve the question. It's best to avoid being dogmatic about such issues.

That's a really good point, but why are you angry.

 

[Tintin]

That's a really good point, but why are you angry.

He's not angry. There were probably rainbows prior to just after the Great Flood, but God made the rainbow a sign of His promise for the first time after the Flood.

 

[coby]

Well maybe Carl Baugh was right after all with his rakea, a water thing in the atmosphere, which Job says. My Geography teacher taught me that. Now they say it can't be but tbh I still think there was something like that. Why else could they get 900 years old and where did all the water come from?

 

[Tintin]

He's not angry. There were probably rainbows prior to just after the Great Flood, but God made the rainbow a sign of His promise for the first time after the Flood.

Sorry. That should read: there were probably rainbows prior to the Great Flood...

 

[coby]

The Pre-flood Atmosphere | Genesis Park

 

[GodIsSalvation]

You know that passage in the old testament where God makes a rainbow after the flood, and says this is a sign to you that I'll never flood the earth again.

Now a rainbow is caused by light refracting through a prism. Water droplets act as a prism, but how did rainbow not exist before the flood.

Now God has asked me to post this question because I haven't worked this one out yet, and he wont add anything beyond my current system of thinking. This is so ill learn at my at my own pace, so what do you think? Any ideas.

Genesis 2:5-6

[SUP]5 [/SUP]And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

 

[bikerchaz]

You know that passage in the old testament where God makes a rainbow after the flood, and says this is a sign to you that I'll never flood the earth again.

Now a rainbow is caused by light refracting through a prism. Water droplets act as a prism, but how did rainbow not exist before the flood.

Now God has asked me to post this question because I haven't worked this one out yet, and he wont add anything beyond my current system of thinking. This is so ill learn at my at my own pace, so what do you think? Any ideas.

No He hasn't. Jesus will never ask you to do anything that does not open His way and make it clear to His Holy Spirit within.

He certainly will not ask for something so trivial when scripture dose not expound it, it is His word, and He is the only true Word, the living Word.

Brothers and sisters we have the enemy again, how can he have 95 posts when his profile says otherwise. If we all pray in the Spirit and do not stop until the Spirit prompts, then this person will be saved for Jesus. Lets pray to save in Jesus name.

 

[birdie]

You know that passage in the old testament where God makes a rainbow after the flood, and says this is a sign to you that I'll never flood the earth again.

Now a rainbow is caused by light refracting through a prism. Water droplets act as a prism, but how did rainbow not exist before the flood.

Now God has asked me to post this question because I haven't worked this one out yet, and he wont add anything beyond my current system of thinking. This is so ill learn at my at my own pace, so what do you think? Any ideas.

"Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant," (Hebrews 13:20)

Notice that the 'everlasting covenant' in the Bible is one made by the blood of Jesus in relation to his sheep (his own true believers), for salvation. In the Genesis story of the bow in the clouds, this is also said to be the token of the 'everlasting covenant': "And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth." (Genesis 9:16) 'Every living creature' is Bible lingo for those persons that God is saving unto eternal life. That is who the eternal covenant is intended for. Romans 11:27 describes the covenant as the taking away of sins: "For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins."
The bow is a Bible word describing Jesus, basically. This can be seen in places like Eze 1:28: "As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. " Rev 14:14 shows Jesus associated with a cloud: "And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle." Clouds in the Bible are often pictures of judgment and of God's glory. When we look at the bow in the clouds, I think it is most likely intended to be saying we look upon Jesus at the cross where God poured out judgment and glorified Christ for the sake of the salvation of his own. When we look there, it is a token of his everlasting covenant between himself and true believers, that he would not cover them with judgment (the flood is a picture of judgment).

 

[p_rehbein]

You know that passage in the old testament where God makes a rainbow after the flood, and says this is a sign to you that I'll never flood the earth again.

Now a rainbow is caused by light refracting through a prism. Water droplets act as a prism, but how did rainbow not exist before the flood.

Now God has asked me to post this question because I haven't worked this one out yet, and he wont add anything beyond my current system of thinking. This is so ill learn at my at my own pace, so what do you think? Any ideas.

Hmm................dunno about that part, however, (not having read all the comments) before the flood, rain did not fall on the earth.......

 

[Depleted]

Where does it say in the Bible that the rainbow which God pointed out to Noah was the first rainbow ever? It may have been, it may not have been. Either way, it is God's sign to us regarding His promise. For some technical reasons, it may have been the first one Noah saw, but I couldn't prove that.

Concluding that it was the first rainbow ever is making the mistake of "arguing from silence". Where the Bible doesn't say something, that something can be argued either way, because there is no objective truth from Scripture to resolve the question. It's best to avoid being dogmatic about such issues.

Whoa! Cool! Never thought of it like that.

I heard somethingsomething-no-rain-before-flood-somethingsomething that satisfied my brain for logic. And now you just did one better -- left it right back where it's supposed to be. If the Word doesn't tell, it's just not important enough to tell.

Thanks. Infinitely more satisfying without adding details that aren't there.

 

[Depleted]

You know that passage in the old testament where God makes a rainbow after the flood, and says this is a sign to you that I'll never flood the earth again.

Now a rainbow is caused by light refracting through a prism. Water droplets act as a prism, but how did rainbow not exist before the flood.

Now God has asked me to post this question because I haven't worked this one out yet, and he wont add anything beyond my current system of thinking. This is so ill learn at my at my own pace, so what do you think? Any ideas.

Why would God choose this day to pick you out of the crowd to ask this question on here? It's just not important enough. And, considering you think a god is giving you such silly missions, he wouldn't pick you anyway.

I'm still pretty sure you're not a Christian, so now I'm getting surer you're just trying to cause believers to question God. Again, it is more likely that I'll get people to believe their shoes are talking to them than you can get anywhere with your efforts.

And, again, we're just not as dumb as you think.

 

[Depleted]

Sorry. That should read: there were probably rainbows prior to the Great Flood...

I am fluent in typos. I actually read it the way you meant it to be versus the way you wrote it. lol

 

[Depleted]

No He hasn't. Jesus will never ask you to do anything that does not open His way and make it clear to His Holy Spirit within.

He certainly will not ask for something so trivial when scripture dose not expound it, it is His word, and He is the only true Word, the living Word.

Brothers and sisters we have the enemy again, how can he have 95 posts when his profile says otherwise. If we all pray in the Spirit and do not stop until the Spirit prompts, then this person will be saved for Jesus. Lets pray to save in Jesus name.

While I do agree this is probably a troll we had and was banned last weekend, I did check his profile and yes, he already as 95 posts. Same tactic used last weekend. Post often, sound sincere, and then get abusive if anything can possible, even in some small way, be taken personally, (like what Dino said. No one could take that as angry unless there was ulterior motives to make everything a believer says be "angry.")

 

[Tintin]

"Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant," (Hebrews 13:20)

Notice that the 'everlasting covenant' in the Bible is one made by the blood of Jesus in relation to his sheep (his own true believers), for salvation. In the Genesis story of the bow in the clouds, this is also said to be the token of the 'everlasting covenant': "And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth." (Genesis 9:16) 'Every living creature' is Bible lingo for those persons that God is saving unto eternal life. That is who the eternal covenant is intended for. Romans 11:27 describes the covenant as the taking away of sins: "For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins."
The bow is a Bible word describing Jesus, basically. This can be seen in places like Eze 1:28: "As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. " Rev 14:14 shows Jesus associated with a cloud: "And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle." Clouds in the Bible are often pictures of judgment and of God's glory. When we look at the bow in the clouds, I think it is most likely intended to be saying we look upon Jesus at the cross where God poured out judgment and glorified Christ for the sake of the salvation of his own. When we look there, it is a token of his everlasting covenant between himself and true believers, that he would not cover them with judgment (the flood is a picture of judgment).

That's certainly a creative but non-biblical understanding of the Bible passage. The rainbow/bow in the clouds is God's promise to humanity and to the animals and birds etc. living upon the earth (to His creation) that He will never again send a global Flood to wipe out all living things. You're taking unrelated verses and applying them to this passage to push your idea. But that's not how we're to read the Bible. Context is king.

 

[Tintin]

Whoa! Cool! Never thought of it like that.

I heard somethingsomething-no-rain-before-flood-somethingsomething that satisfied my brain for logic. And now you just did one better -- left it right back where it's supposed to be. If the Word doesn't tell, it's just not important enough to tell.

Thanks. Infinitely more satisfying without adding details that aren't there.

The mist that watered the pre-Fall world may have just been for that time as Creation was establishing itself within the loving hand of God. There's no reason to believe that there was no rain before the Great Flood, but we just don't know.

 

[hornetguy]

If this is a serious question, I've always heard that it had never rained on the earth before the flood. Water always came up from the ground (dew, springs, etc).
When the flood happened, it not only rained, but God let the waters flood up out of the earth....

I've also heard that mankind did not eat animals until after the flood, but were vegetarians... I don't know if that is true, as I have not researched it... but it's an interesting concept.

Neither of those two tidbits make any difference toward your salvation, however, just like figuring out exactly what the Nephilim were... interesting to think about, and study, but not necessary for salvation.

 

[Tintin]

If this is a serious question, I've always heard that it had never rained on the earth before the flood. Water always came up from the ground (dew, springs, etc).
When the flood happened, it not only rained, but God let the waters flood up out of the earth....

I've also heard that mankind did not eat animals until after the flood, but were vegetarians... I don't know if that is true, as I have not researched it... but it's an interesting concept.

Neither of those two tidbits make any difference toward your salvation, however, just like figuring out exactly what the Nephilim were... interesting to think about, and study, but not necessary for salvation.

People weren't told to eat animals until after the Great Flood, but I'm sure some did anyway. Perhaps most, perhaps all who didn't believe in the one true God ate animals. We just don't know.

 

[Depleted]

The mist that watered the pre-Fall world may have just been for that time as Creation was establishing itself within the loving hand of God. There's no reason to believe that there was no rain before the Great Flood, but we just don't know.

Yeah, that was the somethingsomething theory that sounded good to me. It still does, but it's just a theory.