After the rainbow

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If this is a serious question, I've always heard that it had never rained on the earth before the flood. Water always came up from the ground (dew, springs, etc).
When the flood happened, it not only rained, but God let the waters flood up out of the earth....

I've also heard that mankind did not eat animals until after the flood, but were vegetarians... I don't know if that is true, as I have not researched it... but it's an interesting concept.

Neither of those two tidbits make any difference toward your salvation, however, just like figuring out exactly what the Nephilim were... interesting to think about, and study, but not necessary for salvation.
Remember Cain and Abel? Cain hunted meat.

There, your study on if mankind was only vegetarians before the flood is completed.
 
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Remember Cain and Abel? Cain hunted meat.

There, your study on if mankind was only vegetarians before the flood is completed.
Hi sister. I think you're thinking of Jacob and Esau. And that was post-Flood.
 
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Hi sister. I think you're thinking of Jacob and Esau. And that was post-Flood.
Two brthers burnt offerings to God. One burnt his veggies, and one burnt animals? Veggie guy was pleasing to the Lord. Carcass guy wasn't? Carcass guy got angry at his brother. No? Then what did Cain offer? (I could be wrong.)

I do have a picture in my mind that Abel offered pumpkin. No idea where I came up with that one. Popcorn seems more reasonable.
 

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Now Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground. [SUP]3 [/SUP]And in the process of time it came to pass that Cain brought an offering of the fruit of the ground to the Lord. [SUP]4 [/SUP]Abel also brought of the firstborn of his flock and of their fat. And the Lord respected Abel and his offering, [SUP]5 [/SUP]but He did not respect Cain and his offering. And Cain was very angry, and his countenance fell.
I had to go look it up... Cain was a farmer, Abel was a shepherd.

So, it could have been a pumpkin... ;)
 
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Two brothers burnt offerings to God. One burnt his veggies, and one burnt animals? Veggie guy was pleasing to the Lord. Carcass guy wasn't? Carcass guy got angry at his brother. No? Then what did Cain offer? (I could be wrong.)

I do have a picture in my mind that Abel offered pumpkin. No idea where I came up with that one. Popcorn seems more reasonable.
Sorry, I'm overly familiar with early Genesis. Abel was a shepherd and Cain was a farmer. Abel offered his best lamb and Cain offered vegetables. Not his first uh... fruit.
 

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Interesting parallel.
Water-flood
Water H[SUB]2[/SUB]0...two parts hydrogen.
What happens when all that hydrogen becomes 'loosed' luo from each other? Read creation wide hydrogen explosion.

But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved (loosed), and the earth and the works that are done on it will be exposed.
(2Pe 3:10)

Since all these things are thus to be dissolved (loosed), what sort of people ought you to be in lives of holiness and godliness,
(2Pe 3:11)


waiting for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be set on fire and dissolved (loosed), and the heavenly bodies will melt as they burn!
(2Pe 3:12)
 

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Now a rainbow is caused by light refracting through a prism. Water droplets act as a prism, but how did rainbow not exist before the flood.
While the multi-colors of visible light become visible when light passes through a prism, yet light refraction does not produce the curvature of the multl-colored lights, merely a new line of travel based upon the angle it is reflected.

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The multi-colored arc of the refracted light is bowed as the result of the curvature of the atmosphere. As written in Genesis 9:14: "And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:" [See: Job 38:9]



In addition, it is written in Gen 9:16 that the LORD said the following:
"And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth."


 
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Sorry, I'm overly familiar with early Genesis. Abel was a shepherd and Cain was a farmer. Abel offered his best lamb and Cain offered vegetables. Not his first uh... fruit.
I wondered if anyone was going to jump that. Me, I laid low.... she can get salty at times. LOL
 
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The mist that watered the pre-Fall world may have just been for that time as Creation was establishing itself within the loving hand of God. There's no reason to believe that there was no rain before the Great Flood, but we just don't know.
This is so correct. The mist was when there were no plants grown up, and no one to tend them.
 
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I wondered if anyone was going to jump that. Me, I laid low.... she can get salty at times. LOL
Well done, brother. I'm not disciplined enough to do that. Haha!
 
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He's not angry. There were probably rainbows prior to just after the Great Flood, but God made the rainbow a sign of His promise for the first time after the Flood.
Another correct statement. I believe the Bible said something about.... "... from this time, forward."
 

Zmouth

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This is so correct. The mist was when there were no plants grown up, and no one to tend them.
According to Genesis 2:5, there wasn't any plants, or even trees at the time in Genesis 2:6 reports the midst when up from the earth.

Of course that would be consistent with Genesis 1:2 which reports that the earth was void, or without any living thing and the entire face of the ground was covered under a deluge of water It wasn't until the LORD clothed the earth in a cloud that the dry ground begin to appear Genesis 1:9. Thus, after the dry land appeared the midst when up from the earth and watered the entire face of the ground.

However, Man was formed before the plants and trees were even in the earth considering that it was only after Man was formed in Genesis 2:7 that the garden was planted as written in Genesis 2:8

After all it is written, Genesis 6: "And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth,....the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh:"
 
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According to Genesis 2:5, there wasn't any plants, or even trees at the time in Genesis 2:6 reports the midst when up from the earth.

Of course that would be consistent with Genesis 1:2 which reports that the earth was void, or without any living thing and the entire face of the ground was covered under a deluge of water It wasn't until the LORD clothed the earth in a cloud that the dry ground begin to appear Genesis 1:9. Thus, after the dry land appeared the midst when up from the earth and watered the entire face of the ground.

However, Man was formed before the plants and trees were even in the earth considering that it was only after Man was formed in Genesis 2:7 that the garden was planted as written in Genesis 2:8

After all it is written, Genesis 6: "And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth,....the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh:"
Nope. Plants and trees existed before mankind were created but were only cultivated afterwards.
 

Zmouth

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Nope. Plants and trees existed before mankind were created but were only cultivated afterwards.
Didn't say anything about mankind, said the Man.

5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. 6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
Gen 2:5-6

And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Gen 2:7

And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
Gen 2:8

And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food;
Gen 2:9

22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
Gen 2:22-23

Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, Matt 19:4
 
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Okay, the man then. The man was Adam.
 

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However, Man was formed before the plants and trees were even in the earth considering that it was only after Man was formed in Genesis 2:7 that the garden was planted as written in Genesis 2:8
I couldn't figure out how to match gen 1 and gen 2 until I found this
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The Hebrew word for “formed” in both passages is yatsar. The New King James Version (quoted above) translates the verb in its perfect form.

However, this Hebrew word may also be translated in its pluperfect form. In this case, it would read that God “had formed” these creatures, as some other translations have it (e.g. ESV, NIV, etc.) For example, Genesis 2:19 in the NIV states:

“Now the LORD God *had formed* out of the ground all the beasts of the field and all the birds of the air. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them.” (emphasis mine)

https://answersingenesis.org/contradictions-in-the-bible/do-genesis-1-and-2-contradict-each-other/
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so I think the order of stuff is told in gen 1, then gen 2 gives more details, especially about adam.
 
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The multi-colored arc of the refracted light is bowed as the result of the curvature of the atmosphere.
That cannot be true - because, you would never see the 'ends' of the bow at ground level - instead, they would "disappear over the horizon" at a fixed [ apparent ] altitude...

Additionally, the arc of the bow would [ strictly ] have to be a circular arc ( with every part of the bow at the same [ apparent ] altitude ) to meet the requirement of your statement.

In reality, the curvature of the arc of the bow is more parabolic than circular ( different parts of the bow appear at different altitudes, from the top of the bow high in the sky all the way down to ground level at the ends ) - and, does not match the supposed [ circular ] curvature of the atmosphere - and, at least one end of the bow can usually always be seen at ground level [ well ] within the extent of the horizon limits.

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That's a really good point, but why are you angry.
Thanks for the feedback; I appreciate it, because I wasn't aware how I come across. As Tintin correctly noted, I was not angry. The smiley face at the end of my post was to indicate that.

There are some people on this forum (and I don't mean you) who make doctrinal statements from biblical silence. This practice frustrates me a little, because often they defy reason, logic, and principles of sound exegesis. However, it was wrong of me to direct that frustration at you. So, my apologies. :)