To watch or not to watch is the question

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OnlyaVessel

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I have a married Christian coworker who has not been in the mood to have intercourse with their spouse.. Of course the spouse started to become frustated because of the lack of intimacy..So in order to get in the mood the coworker told me that they watched an erotic movie and it did the trick and the spouse was satisfied..so I pose the question to watch or not to watch to ask Can or should a Christian that is married watch an erotic movie? Why or why not?
 
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notuptome

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They have transposed intimacy for lust. I feel sorry for them. Really if you must resort to this kind of thing what is in the heart?

No it's not alright to watch porn even if you call it an erotic movie. What about the next time? When the movie no longer does the trick?

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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OnlyaVessel

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@notuptome..Yes I see exactly what you are saying..but what if lust is the only thing that is physically attracting this couple to come together as man and wife. Is it then justified to save the marriage for the greater good?
 
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kaylagrl

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@notuptome..Yes I see exactly what you are saying..but what if lust is the only thing that is physically attracting this couple to come together as man and wife. Is it then justified to save the marriage for the greater good?
The couple needs to go to counseling. There is something deeper wrong here. A movie isn't going to cure anything. Something is missing in communication.
 
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The couple needs to go to counseling. There is something deeper wrong here. A movie isn't going to cure anything. Something is missing in communication.
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What she said. Intimacy is based on trust. Dishonesty destroys trust.
 

Blain

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@notuptome..Yes I see exactly what you are saying..but what if lust is the only thing that is physically attracting this couple to come together as man and wife. Is it then justified to save the marriage for the greater good?
If lust and sex is the only thing that can bring them to together and save their marriage then it sounds to me like what they have isn't true love. If stephanie and I got married( fingers crossed so tightly) our relationship could never be based on lust or sex.
I have never been married and stephanie is the only real girlfriend I have ever had but I have seen far to may people get married going into it with that fluttering feeling you experience at first they say the vows but when times get tough the marriage and relationship falls apart.
Marriage is very important to me and the vows one makes when getting married I wonder how many truly understand these vows when they say it.
To me they mean something, I do not expect things be like in the fairy tales where everything is perfect and we don't argue or even have fiery fights I don't not expect their ti be times in which our relationship will bend even get to the point where it may break in fact I expect all of this. But one tihng about my love and my relationship with Stephanie is that God is first she is second and I am last God the firm base and foundation of our relationship which is why I know it may bend but our love will never break.

Even if she cheated on me which I highly doubt I still would not divorce her and I would still love her, if you truly love someone there are no limits you won't go for them there is nothing you will weather together and if these ppl need sex to save their love then I think they got married for the wrong reasons and didn't truly mean it when they spoke their vows
 

oldhermit

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Using the end justifies the means argument to rationalize sin simply will not fly.
 

tourist

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If lust and sex is the only thing that can bring them to together and save their marriage then it sounds to me like what they have isn't true love. If stephanie and I got married( fingers crossed so tightly) our relationship could never be based on lust or sex.
I have never been married and stephanie is the only real girlfriend I have ever had but I have seen far to may people get married going into it with that fluttering feeling you experience at first they say the vows but when times get tough the marriage and relationship falls apart.
Marriage is very important to me and the vows one makes when getting married I wonder how many truly understand these vows when they say it.
To me they mean something, I do not expect things be like in the fairy tales where everything is perfect and we don't argue or even have fiery fights I don't not expect their ti be times in which our relationship will bend even get to the point where it may break in fact I expect all of this. But one tihng about my love and my relationship with Stephanie is that God is first she is second and I am last God the firm base and foundation of our relationship which is why I know it may bend but our love will never break.

Even if she cheated on me which I highly doubt I still would not divorce her and I would still love her, if you truly love someone there are no limits you won't go for them there is nothing you will weather together and if these ppl need sex to save their love then I think they got married for the wrong reasons and didn't truly mean it when they spoke their vows
You will make a good husband one day.
 

Blain

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You will make a good husband one day.
Only because God taught me what marriage means and what being a good husband is. I have never been taught or shown what a good husband is or what marriage means or what true love is certainly not from my family or anyone else in my life so I cannot take any credit all of it goes to him
 
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OnlyaVessel

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This couple has been married for almost 15 years...the thrill is gone as they put it...and I do think the couple loves each other but the physical attraction is not there for one spouse..but if a little sexual imagination is used to trigger feelings of lust for one another is there anything really wrong with that? I am neutral and detached..this is only a thought provoking discussion..so lets stay civil..
 
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I have a married Christian coworker who has not been in the mood to have intercourse with their spouse.. Of course the spouse started to become frustated because of the lack of intimacy..So in order to get in the mood the coworker told me that they watched an erotic movie and it did the trick and the spouse was satisfied..so I pose the question to watch or not to watch to ask Can or should a Christian that is married watch an erotic movie? Why or why not?
Walk away. This is between spouses, not for public display. If anything, I might go with see a doctor for that spouse, but no way EVER will I be telling a couple how they should do what they do NOR get random strangers to take a poll on what they think.
 

ArtsieSteph

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I honestly think porn at any point in a...really anywhere is a bad idea. It's focusing like everyone said, on lust, but not only that on another person. I mean if you are becoming aroused by someone else's intimacy, then aren't you focusing on them and not your spouse? At that point you're just focusing on your needs and not your spouse's, since it says even in the Bible (I can't remember the exact wording) that when you're married your body is yours and also your spouses now.

Also, if the spouce doesn't want any intimacy then maybe they should ask what is wrong?? Maybe there's a deeper issue and they're separating physically because of something else.
 

Blain

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The question isn't why one spouse can't get it on the question is why are they wanting to get it on?
Sex regardless of what most people think isn't about lust, God made sex as a way for man and women to intimately become one to express their love for each other in a more physical manner and sometimes life is made from the two becoming one.

marriage is similar it was made to be a beautiful ceremony in which two hearts two beings become one no longer tow different individuals but one body one heart one mind and soul which is why the wedding of the lamb is such a vital and beautiful thing because God specifically designed marriage from us becoming one with him
 
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OnlyaVessel

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@depleted I have never given any advice to this couple..I have only posed a question to my Christian family..that's what's wrong with us as the church..we can talk about everything except the real struggles and issues of believers..this is a needed conversation..we never know who else could be helped.
 
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OnlyaVessel

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@Blaine sex without lust is like eating without being hungry...God created lust but only in it's proper place...it's ok to lust for your spouse...God doesn't want us to be just going through the motions without emotions...Lust is needed in sex And marriage but only in a healthy manner...when you marry you want to marry because of God first and foremost but also because you have romantic feelings for the person as well...healthy lust is all through the bible...Songs of Solomon prime example...
 

melita916

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lust is self-centered.

love isn't.

i agree with kayla in saying there is a deeper issue.
 
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OnlyaVessel

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@melita916Lust and romantic love are intertwined..
 

Blain

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@Blaine sex without lust is like eating without being hungry...God created lust but only in it's proper place...it's ok to lust for your spouse...God doesn't want us to be just going through the motions without emotions...Lust is needed in sex And marriage but only in a healthy manner...when you marry you want to marry because of God first and foremost but also because you have romantic feelings for the person as well...healthy lust is all through the bible...Songs of Solomon prime example...
But in this case lust is the issue with the couples relationship, now because of my past I have never experienced lust and maybe this is why I am able to take a more defined perspective on it. I haven't seen lust show any kind of Godliness, while it may be in the human nature to lust after each other if it becomes something that dishonors God then that is an issue. This couple are worried about not being to be intimate in bed this to me shows me that lust is not used in the way God intended it in this situation
 

Blain

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@melita916Lust and romantic love are intertwined..
Not really, I am in love with Stephanie I speak my heart to her and write her romantic poems expressing deeply my profound love for her and I actively express that love to her in many ways but not once has lust had anything to do with our love for each other and if lust is intertwine with love then that is not true love
 

ArtsieSteph

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@Blaine sex without lust is like eating without being hungry...God created lust but only in it's proper place...it's ok to lust for your spouse...God doesn't want us to be just going through the motions without emotions...Lust is needed in sex And marriage but only in a healthy manner...when you marry you want to marry because of God first and foremost but also because you have romantic feelings for the person as well...healthy lust is all through the bible...Songs of Solomon prime example...
I think that the term "lust" and "arousal" are different things in this case. Lust means wanna have sex with whoever doesn't matter it can be porn, other person, whatever. In this case like you can have arousal or sexual feelings for a spouse. Different things I think.

Also "attraction" I think would be a better word instead of lust.