"Standing in the armor of God?"

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Be aware I am extremely hard pressed in life to come back here often, so before you even read the rest of this understand this may take me weeks to get through my full desire to understand what others mean and to respond to answers.

If you don't have that kind of patience, not a problem. I don't usually either, so I won't be upset if you walk away. BUT you might want to walk away now before even getting caught up in my questions, because this will probably take weeks to figure this out. Okay?

Now the questions. I see people talking about standing in the full armor of God often enough on here. I know what I mean when I say that. (I don't say that often.) What I'm asking is what do you mean by that?

What's the purpose of the armor to you? What do you do in it? How is your life in it? Where are you standing? What is the setting around you? What do you see in that armor? For what purpose do you wear it?
 
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I suppose to many the armor of God is for the purpose of protecting themselves and true enough the scriptures do indeed speak of this being it's purpose. However everyday i search my own heart and I see in it everyday the reason why I fight the reason why I continue on even when I fall and crew up all the time why I sought to be strong in God to begin with and it all comes to that day when I was still new in faith and I heard God tell me he needed me to be strong for him and in reply I responded to him if you need me to be strong I will however I have certain conditions that must always be met and always be upheld. If I am to be strong it can never be for or about me it can only be for you and for others and only out the deepest love for you and them otherwise I refuse to seek strength.

I often say on here what may blade is for and maybe it sounds silly in fact even from my view point it's certainly not something you hear everyday and is abnormal but my words- my blade still remains the same my blade is not to cut down nor is it for me it is only to encourage to uplift and help uphold those who have fallen and are wounded mine is to give life to show love and who and what Love really is it is to protect and serve and likewise my armor is the same

I intend to be on the front lines of this war and I can promise you when he calls my name and when my service is called wherever the enemies hand is to strike fathers children lost or saved I will be there to intercede that blow
 
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It's for the victory over the enemy in this life. In Ephesians it says we are seated in heavenly places.. Christ said all authority in heaven and earth was given to us...We are supposed to use the armor to stand up against the enemy and command him to stay away.. From you, your family and anywhere you inhabit, travel, health, finances ect.. he can do nothing when you give him no room..Bible says give no place to him... You have to be aware of how he gains access and close those ways..
I'm no expert, I'm still learning.. life is much different when you learn how to tell him to beat it..
 
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Blain said:
I suppose to many the armor of God is for the purpose of protecting themselves and true enough the scriptures do indeed speak of this being it's purpose. However everyday i search my own heart and I see in it everyday the reason why I fight the reason why I continue on even when I fall and crew up all the time why I sought to be strong in God to begin with and it all comes to that day when I was still new in faith and I heard God tell me he needed me to be strong for him and in reply I responded to him if you need me to be strong I will however I have certain conditions that must always be met and always be upheld. If I am to be strong it can never be for or about me it can only be for you and for others and only out the deepest love for you and them otherwise I refuse to seek strength.

I often say on here what may blade is for and maybe it sounds silly in fact even from my view point it's certainly not something you hear everyday and is abnormal but my words- my blade still remains the same my blade is not to cut down nor is it for me it is only to encourage to uplift and help uphold those who have fallen and are wounded mine is to give life to show love and who and what Love really is it is to protect and serve and likewise my armor is the same

I intend to be on the front lines of this war and I can promise you when he calls my name and when my service is called wherever the enemies hand is to strike fathers children lost or saved I will be there to intercede that blow
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So you think it's you who has the strength? And you gave conditions to God?

Also in order to fight an enemy you have to see an enemy. What are you seeing? What or who are you fighting? What's yesterday's battle look like? Because, honestly, when people talk about "fighting the enemy" I'm picturing a dystopian battle with mutated monsters on rugged terrain, and I have never seen those battles in real life.

I'm not talking Armageddon. I'm asking about Wednesday. How did Wednesday go in your armor?
 
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HisHolly said:
It's for the victory over the enemy in this life. In Ephesians it says we are seated in heavenly places.. Christ said all authority in heaven and earth was given to us...We are supposed to use the armor to stand up against the enemy and command him to stay away.. From you, your family and anywhere you inhabit, travel, health, finances ect.. he can do nothing when you give him no room..Bible says give no place to him... You have to be aware of how he gains access and close those ways..
I'm no expert, I'm still learning.. life is much different when you learn how to tell him to beat it..
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So you're the general of your small sphere of being and the battle is to keep your personal turf? How did that look yesterday?
 
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every piece of that armor is Jesus Christ.

it is the power of God, to peace, to security, to contentment, to joy in tribulation: to salvation
 
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posthuman said:
every piece of that armor is Jesus Christ.

it is the power of God, to peace, to security, to contentment, to joy in tribulation: to salvation
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I get what it is, but what do you do once it's/he's on? Literally. Explain a day of armor wearing.
 
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So you're the general of your small sphere of being and the battle is to keep your personal turf? How did that look yesterday?
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peace is what it looks like. Everywhere I go I can take authority of that area.. No one is limited except by their unbelief
 
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My favorite part of the armor is the shield of faith which "wards off the fiery darts of the devil". I try always to keep my belief in what God has promised to do for me. I only acknowledge his power over my life. I keep my thoughts there.

I wear the "breastplate of righteousness" - which is the righteousness of Christ. I wear it by believing it.

I love the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. It also defeats the negative thoughts that the enemy might put in my mind. I just find scripture that addresses every circumstance that comes my way. Sometimes I need to speak it over and over. But then when I do, my peace returns.

I tried here to give you how I live with the armor on a daily basis.
 
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HisHolly said:
peace is what it looks like. Everywhere I go I can take authority of that area.. No one is limited except by their unbelief
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So you wear the armor like earbuds and blinders walking about your day only feeling peace? And wherever you go, all around you is serenity because you own that ground? That's the goal? Quite the quiet battle. I've never been in a battle where I am the full authority for any particular spot. I would think that's more of a cease fire than a battle.
 
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So you wear the armor like earbuds and blinders walking about your day only feeling peace? And wherever you go, all around you is serenity because you own that ground? That's the goal? Quite the quiet battle. I've never been in a battle where I am the full authority for any particular spot. I would think that's more of a cease fire than a battle.
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No ear buds. Serenity? Sure if that's what you want to use to describe it... I definitely don't worry
 
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He was already defeated. Battles occur when we miss an entry point...
 
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My favorite part of the armor is the shield of faith which "wards off the fiery darts of the devil". I try always to keep my belief in what God has promised to do for me. I only acknowledge his power over my life. I keep my thoughts there.

I wear the "breastplate of righteousness" - which is the righteousness of Christ. I wear it by believing it.

I love the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. It also defeats the negative thoughts that the enemy might put in my mind. I just find scripture that addresses every circumstance that comes my way. Sometimes I need to speak it over and over. But then when I do, my peace returns.

I tried here to give you how I live with the armor on a daily basis.
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See now? You're different than most, because I know you enough to know what your days were like last year. I know your life was very active -- beyond what was easy to endure -- so needed that. And now that the battle is calmer, each day you have to live with missing him, so it is calmer, but the mixed emotions have to be given to God too. Last year, you lived with your much-loved husband and had to handle the struggles of his disabilities. This year he is with God and you are left with the feeling everyone else thinks you're supposed to simply have picked up the pieces and moved on. (Not that we all think that, but that is the thing most people keep telling you that you "should" have done.) What are you doing now that you need the armor in a different battle? Has anything changed?

I'm in the midst of seeing what our lives are like now that hubby is back home with me. I know what yesterday looked like for me. I still have that sense of failure for falling apart at the wrong time hanging over me. So what I'm asking is besides wearing it, what are people doing in it?

It very much feels like everyone is having a kumbaya experience where the rest of the world fades away, when that has never been the sense I get even in the armor. Fiery darts are, at best, startling, at worse, terrifying, and yet they keep coming. The breastplate does stop them from penetrating, but I still feel the hits if I moved my shield to the left and they came to the right. People are invading my quiet place every day, and when they don't come they only don't come because we go out and face more people. I cannot deal with several problems I really should be dealing with because I don't have time.

I'm not having a quiet moment -- my kumbaya experience. But I know you probably aren't either, so I'd like to see the landscape around others to know the rest of the troops aren't behind the mountain roasting marshmallows for some s'mores while I'm out here fighting not just "The Enemy" but folks who are supposed to be helping us.

This is where my question is.
 
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HisHolly said:
He was already defeated. Battles occur when we miss an entry point...
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What's "the battle" in your mind, if you think it's over? And, if it's over, why are you still wearing the armor?

Battles occur when someone else wants to forcibly remove occupiers. And entry point is only a problem until it is stormed enough. One person can't stop an entry point.
 
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I know what I know and it seems youre only picking so Im done answering. Have a nice day
 
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Not to be discouraged by this world.

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Blain

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So you think it's you who has the strength? And you gave conditions to God?

Also in order to fight an enemy you have to see an enemy. What are you seeing? What or who are you fighting? What's yesterday's battle look like? Because, honestly, when people talk about "fighting the enemy" I'm picturing a dystopian battle with mutated monsters on rugged terrain, and I have never seen those battles in real life.

I'm not talking Armageddon. I'm asking about Wednesday. How did Wednesday go in your armor?
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Surely you know me well enough by now to know that it was never my strength that mattered to me. No the strength I speak of has nothing to do with me or my effort and isn't what others might consider strength, the strength I speak of is only known when one look to Jesus, look at him and I see how strong his love is I see how he stands for poor and for weak I see how far he is willing to go to save just one lost child this is the strength I speak of. as for my conditions i made it isn't as it appears there is more than meets the eye.

in prayers in my speaking to others and even in my speaking on cc he will speak through me sometimes to others and sometimes his words are meant for me. In these conditions I spoke of while it would appear I was making demands for god it was in this time that he was instead speaking to my heart the reasons why we would seek such strength. If you notice the conditions I made aren't from the human heart and I never had such desires before this was spoken, however at the time i didn't realize that it was God speaking to me through me as I had yet to learn his voice and I didn't trust myself to keep and uphold these conditions and even to this day i don't trust my heart to do it so I handed it over him because I trust him I gave him the power and authority to make sure these conditions would always be met and upheld and he has more than kept his promise to ensure them.

And also when I speak of fighting the enemy I don't see him with my physical eyes I see him with a different pair of eyes, this isn't a battle of physical blades and armor it's a battle of the unseen and yet more profound and more powerful than that of a physical battle, in fact everyday we are in battle and most don't ever realize it. when I speak of how our words and actions cause a ripple effect and affect the lives and hearts of others and when I say that both God and satan are very active on these forums and how we are the tools and the pawns in this chess game especially in all these heated debates we have I wasn't just giving advice.

Again I ask everyone to search their hearts and to ask themselves what their blade is for and likewise what is their armor for?
 
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Blain said:
Surely you know me well enough by now to know that it was never my strength that mattered to me. No the strength I speak of has nothing to do with me or my effort and isn't what others might consider strength, the strength I speak of is only known when one look to Jesus, look at him and I see how strong his love is I see how he stands for poor and for weak I see how far he is willing to go to save just one lost child this is the strength I speak of. as for my conditions i made it isn't as it appears there is more than meets the eye.

in prayers in my speaking to others and even in my speaking on cc he will speak through me sometimes to others and sometimes his words are meant for me. In these conditions I spoke of while it would appear I was making demands for god it was in this time that he was instead speaking to my heart the reasons why we would seek such strength. If you notice the conditions I made aren't from the human heart and I never had such desires before this was spoken, however at the time i didn't realize that it was God speaking to me through me as I had yet to learn his voice and I didn't trust myself to keep and uphold these conditions and even to this day i don't trust my heart to do it so I handed it over him because I trust him I gave him the power and authority to make sure these conditions would always be met and upheld and he has more than kept his promise to ensure them.

And also when I speak of fighting the enemy I don't see him with my physical eyes I see him with a different pair of eyes, this isn't a battle of physical blades and armor it's a battle of the unseen and yet more profound and more powerful than that of a physical battle, in fact everyday we are in battle and most don't ever realize it. when I speak of how our words and actions cause a ripple effect and affect the lives and hearts of others and when I say that both God and satan are very active on these forums and how we are the tools and the pawns in this chess game especially in all these heated debates we have I wasn't just giving advice.

Again I ask everyone to search their hearts and to ask themselves what their blade is for and likewise what is their armor for?
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Consider that we are overcomers and that in Christ we are victorious. Maybe this armor is for the offensive more so than the defensive. Faith without works is dead, and so where we stride and take action this armor, and this sword, not only protects us but makes us thrive. Not victim but victor. This battle seems to be one of truth, and we have the truth. VVe have His word and if we dare to believe it, we may walk in it victoriously. As God's word says, so as we received Him let us walk. By faith.
 
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HisHolly said:
I know what I know and it seems youre only picking so Im done answering. Have a nice day
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I'm not "picking." I'm asking. What you keep telling is so abstract I'm not seeing it. I'm asking what it's like on any given day. What's its purpose? Most armor is defensive, but a sword is definitely offensive. To me, it really sounds like everyone is standing around in their armor, and I keep thinking there has to be more to it then just standing or proclaiming.

We just started the first day of a heatwave. Hubby had to go to a wound care specialist, which means I have to help him into the car and then when we get there, I have to yank out his wheelchair from a trunk. He craves the independence he's finally getting after months of needing others to do something as simple as change his position in bed, so I don't want him to stain pushing his chair along, but I also want to be available if he gets tired and would like me to push. It's a balancing act, and I'm more prone to wanting to take care of him.

And then when the appointment is done, I have to lug it back in, while praying I don't back up traffic. (I didn't, so thank you, Lord, for that moment.)

We went shopping, parked in a close-to-the-store spot with a huge puddle he thought was fine. My foot got soaked while I got his wc to him. Trying to fit groceries somewhere into our car, which is mostly occupied by wc in the sweltering sun made me tired, hot, sweaty and short tempered. (Being absent minded and shutting the trunk three times when I shouldn't have shut it made me close to going psycho, and it's just not that big a deal.) I spent quite a lot of time noticing the good things God gave us (close parking spot, greenlights that are usually redlights, no one driving so bad I had to put on my brakes and push him to balancing better, be happy that no one decided that a wc means nothing in the store so purpose blocked his way like last time) simply to avoid snapping at people. Now the groceries are away and half the dishes are done. I'm exhausted but hav more to do, so I really have to press in to God to remind me why I need armor.

All that, and I never got the chance to talk to someone else in a friendly or encouraging way. I notice when I don't help strangers, because helping people is something we're called to do. THIS is my day.

You're talking defending ground and being at peace. I have no idea what that means to you yet, and I've asked several ways.
 
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