How about bringing the Bible Discussion forum back to bible discussion?

[Depleted]

An old joke -- I went to a fight and a hockey game broke out.

Too much of a joke -- I went to Argue Over Tangents and a Bible Discussion broke out.

This forum doesn't look much different than any other site where believers and nonbelievers can come together in the false belief that maybe they can convince the other side into buying their pet belief. It's nothing but arguing over the side issues while forgetting the main issue. And it's past the point of anyone listening to one another because spend a month on here and you know who is going to argue over what and what they'll say. OR they don't argue. They simply plop up some sermon -- either a devotional piece or their wisdom bestowed to the masses.

OR, truth be told, the ones who could contribute the most in a Bible discussion leave while those who come here to argue do only that.

This really could be used to learn. And scary thought -- to learn about the Bible. Why is that scary? What is wrong with studying God's word and then when we don't get something and, even after studying, we still don't get it so we ask our bros?

It works. It's really helpful. And it certainly beats the never-ending arguments about the same subjects ad nauseum.

I know, "but we might be reaching new people." Really? On what? Tongues? OSAS? Hyper-grace v. legalism? End Times? RCC is evil? Nephilim? Words? Church is evil? I alone am God's messenger? None of that junk ever reached people with anything worth reaching them about!

I come here in search of knowledge and understanding, but get junk! Surely that has to bother others too. How about we actually discuss the bible on the Bible Discussion Forum? Got questions? Ask! Start a thread and ask. Who knows? If enough of us do that maybe it stops being the Argue Over Tangents Forum.

And watch this -- this will cause an argument too! I don't want comments. (I'm sure I'll get them anyway, because so few listen because they're busy coming up with rebuttals.) If you agree, how about posting a Bible-related question. Bible-related --not another tangent.

 

[LaurenTM]

one, I think, overlooked thing here

many new people coming into the site are the ones who start threads on topics that have been rehashed for, literally in some cases, years

if I look over the threads right now, in fact, this is what I am going to see

I think many would agree in principal with your op here, but fact is, about the only way to change it, short of the mods stepping in with hip waders and baseball bats (do we want that?) is for control over what is posted OR people actually controlling themselves

what d'ah think?

 

[LaurenTM]

meh

here is an example of true wackiness and it is 4 pages long now

from a new poster's op with regards to music in church:

I believe this is a sin... I am a member of a church of Christ and I believe since we are no longer under the old law (Colossians 2:14) we only do things under the new law which doesn't permit us to use instrumental music.... If you disagree please comment?

and on it goes

please note I am not negating what you say

it's not a secret we are not best buds here, but that does not mean we cannot discuss civilly

right?

 

[p_rehbein]

While I agree with the OP........this idea ALSO has been discussed 'n' fussed over many, many times.

Simple truth is..........on Internet Forums......two things are a reality.

1) If one is seeking to garner as many comments as possible, make the Subject of the Thread controversial. The more controversial, the longer the "shelf life" of the Thread.

2) If one is seeking Edifying comments, and/or sincere "fellowship," the thread will usually garner a few comments, then quickly fade into the nether pages of the Forum.

These two realities have been played out right here on CC for a very long time. And it is not just CC. Every Christian Site I have been a member of is exactly the same way.

So, while I agree with the OP, I do not have much hope of it becoming a reality. Since I first read the OP, I have been trying to come up with a "Bible-related-question" that would be Edifying, and NOT be open to controversial interpretation. Hmm.........still working on it......

 

[Depleted]

one, I think, overlooked thing here

many new people coming into the site are the ones who start threads on topics that have been rehashed for, literally in some cases, years

if I look over the threads right now, in fact, this is what I am going to see

I think many would agree in principal with your op here, but fact is, about the only way to change it, short of the mods stepping in with hip waders and baseball bats (do we want that?) is for control over what is posted OR people actually controlling themselves

what d'ah think?

I'm more into God controlling me (without me fighting it so much lol), but whatever works. Control is key.

 

[Depleted]

meh

here is an example of true wackiness and it is 4 pages long now

from a new poster's op with regards to music in church:



and on it goes

please note I am not negating what you say

it's not a secret we are not best buds here, but that does not mean we cannot discuss civilly

right?

And poof! There you go doing exactly what I said would happen --

And watch this -- this will cause an argument too! I don't want comments. (I'm sure I'll get them anyway, because so few listen because they're busy coming up with rebuttals.) If you agree, how about posting a Bible-related question. Bible-related --not another tangent.

 

[Depleted]

While I agree with the OP........this idea ALSO has been discussed 'n' fussed over many, many times.

Simple truth is..........on Internet Forums......two things are a reality.

1) If one is seeking to garner as many comments as possible, make the Subject of the Thread controversial. The more controversial, the longer the "shelf life" of the Thread.

2) If one is seeking Edifying comments, and/or sincere "fellowship," the thread will usually garner a few comments, then quickly fade into the nether pages of the Forum.

These two realities have been played out right here on CC for a very long time. And it is not just CC. Every Christian Site I have been a member of is exactly the same way.

So, while I agree with the OP, I do not have much hope of it becoming a reality. Since I first read the OP, I have been trying to come up with a "Bible-related-question" that would be Edifying, and NOT be open to controversial interpretation. Hmm.........still working on it......

Don't discuss then. Do or don't do.

I brought it up because I've been studying the Bible for decades, so rarely come up with a question I can't find an answer to. We don't need to. 2000+ active members on here. If 1% has a question per day that is the first page of this forum. Either we ask or answer. It should keep us on our toes and become edifying again. If less than that, then even more time to research and get back to the person.

 

[LaurenTM]

And poof! There you go doing exactly what I said would happen --

and here is why I cannot talk to you

I point out a thread that is typical of the nonsense that occurs and you say that is what you said would happen

cherrio

 

[p_rehbein]

Love is so very much a part of the Holy Bible. One of my favorite Scriptures about love is this one.....




But, there are many, many more. I once tried to "document" the Scriptures concerning "love" in just the Four Gospels. Link provided will take you to that Blog.

God bless..........

http://christianchat.com/blogs/p_rehbein/2750-documentation-love-four-gospels.html

 

[LaurenTM]

While I agree with the OP........this idea ALSO has been discussed 'n' fussed over many, many times.

Simple truth is..........on Internet Forums......two things are a reality.

1) If one is seeking to garner as many comments as possible, make the Subject of the Thread controversial. The more controversial, the longer the "shelf life" of the Thread.

2) If one is seeking Edifying comments, and/or sincere "fellowship," the thread will usually garner a few comments, then quickly fade into the nether pages of the Forum.

These two realities have been played out right here on CC for a very long time. And it is not just CC. Every Christian Site I have been a member of is exactly the same way.

So, while I agree with the OP, I do not have much hope of it becoming a reality. Since I first read the OP, I have been trying to come up with a "Bible-related-question" that would be Edifying, and NOT be open to controversial interpretation. Hmm.........still working on it......

exactly

I tried to say the same but because it was me, I somehow said something wrong

and then she says we need control

yeah, well, start with yourself there kiddo

rant away

I'm done

 

[Depleted]

and here is why I cannot talk to you

I point out a thread that is typical of the nonsense that occurs and you say that is what you said would happen

cherrio

And this is why you shouldn't talk to me. I'm not a gossip anymore. You still are! It's not acceptable behavior to talk about others behind their back, even if you cloth it in self-righteousness.

 

[KenAllan]

The problem is the Pride of many people blind them to the Truths in the Scriptures.

Anything in the Scriptures that even hint Its God that has done this or has done that for us is automatically attacked as being a false doctrine.

If they do not see themselves as being in charge they will attack personally all those who teach its God who is in charge.

This is why there are so many disputes on this site.

 

[Depleted]

The problem is the Pride of many people blind them to the Truths in the Scriptures.

Anything in the Scriptures that even hint Its God that has done this or has done that for us is automatically attacked as being a false doctrine.

If they do not see themselves as being in charge they will attack personally all those who teach its God who is in charge.

This is why there are so many disputes on this site.

Don't worry about what everyone else's problem is. Ask questions about the bible or answer questions people have about the Bible.

 

[notmyown]

we could talk about for whom Christ died.

that oughta be fairly non-controversial.

 

[BenFTW]

If all you see is junk you may want to consider changing your lenses. Also...

Its hard for people to receive a message they themselves feel the messenger isn't complying with. You already saw a post, back and forth, between you and another user. Already your attempt to make the bible discussion forum an actual bible discussion has been tossed aside for snide remarks. Nothing new, and as you said, "Don't worry about what everyone else's problem is." Self-reflection may be something we should consider before calling others to higher standards.

To me this is like learning how to be skinny from a morbidly obese person. Or learning about a happy marriage from a man who has been divorced three times. It isn't palatable. Practice what you preach so that there can be unity, and civil discussion. VVouldn't you agree? I suppose that can be a bible discussion topic, our witness.

 

[Magenta]

we could talk about for whom Christ died.

that oughta be fairly non-controversial.

Jesus Christ is the propitiation for our sins: and not
for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

 

[BenFTW]

Jesus Christ is the propitiation for our sins: and not
for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

He came to save the world not condemn it. Amen.

 

[abcdef]

An old joke -- I went to a fight and a hockey game broke out.

Too much of a joke -- I went to Argue Over Tangents and a Bible Discussion broke out.

This forum doesn't look much different than any other site where believers and nonbelievers can come together in the false belief that maybe they can convince the other side into buying their pet belief. It's nothing but arguing over the side issues while forgetting the main issue. And it's past the point of anyone listening to one another because spend a month on here and you know who is going to argue over what and what they'll say. OR they don't argue. They simply plop up some sermon -- either a devotional piece or their wisdom bestowed to the masses.

OR, truth be told, the ones who could contribute the most in a Bible discussion leave while those who come here to argue do only that.

This really could be used to learn. And scary thought -- to learn about the Bible. Why is that scary? What is wrong with studying God's word and then when we don't get something and, even after studying, we still don't get it so we ask our bros?

It works. It's really helpful. And it certainly beats the never-ending arguments about the same subjects ad nauseum.

I know, "but we might be reaching new people." Really? On what? Tongues? OSAS? Hyper-grace v. legalism? End Times? RCC is evil? Nephilim? Words? Church is evil? I alone am God's messenger? None of that junk ever reached people with anything worth reaching them about!

I come here in search of knowledge and understanding, but get junk! Surely that has to bother others too. How about we actually discuss the bible on the Bible Discussion Forum? Got questions? Ask! Start a thread and ask. Who knows? If enough of us do that maybe it stops being the Argue Over Tangents Forum.

And watch this -- this will cause an argument too! I don't want comments. (I'm sure I'll get them anyway, because so few listen because they're busy coming up with rebuttals.) If you agree, how about posting a Bible-related question. Bible-related --not another tangent.

Imagine that you are a teacher in a one room school from long ago.

In the room would be many different students.

Some have been there for many years and reached the end of their terms.

They have heard the elementary lessons many times.

Others are only small children, just arriving for their first days.

The older ones will have to help the little children understand the lessons,

And the little children get to hear the lessons that the older students are learning from.

All are there to learn, they all should help each other.

And I suppose there will be a school yard fight once in a while.

But that's the way it is in life.

 

[Magenta]

He came to save the world not condemn it. Amen.

. . . .

 

[Depleted]

If all you see is junk you may want to consider changing your lenses. Also...

Its hard for people to receive a message they themselves feel the messenger isn't complying with. You already saw a post, back and forth, between you and another user. Already your attempt to make the bible discussion forum an actual bible discussion has been tossed aside for snide remarks. Nothing new, and as you said, "Don't worry about what everyone else's problem is." Self-reflection may be something we should consider before calling others to higher standards.

To me this is like learning how to be skinny from a morbidly obese person. Or learning about a happy marriage from a man who has been divorced three times. It isn't palatable. Practice what you preach so that there can be unity, and civil discussion. VVouldn't you agree? I suppose that can be a bible discussion topic, our witness.