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And,
“I will be a Father to you,
and you will be my sons and daughters,
“I will be a Father to you,
and you will be my sons and daughters,
says the Lord Almighty.”
(2 Corinthians 6:18)
(2 Corinthians 6:18)
I will say to the north, Give up,
and to the south, Do not withhold;
bring my sons from afar
and my daughters from the end of the earth,
everyone who is called by my name,
whom I created for my glory,
whom I formed and made.
(Isaiah 43:6-7)
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Jesus wasn't only a storyteller, but we have recordings of a few of His stories. Those stories are called parables and they're used to illustrate points about God and His Kingdom using the language of the culture and society He lived in, while on earth. There's nothing inherently wrong with storytelling, it's one of life's pleasures.
This below is God's Holy Writ too.
Exodus 32:33 (NASB)
[SUP]33 [/SUP] The LORD said to Moses, "Whoever has sinned against Me, I will blot him out of My book.
So, taking this scripture by itself - you DP have sinned and so you are blotted out of God's book.
This scripture is truly stated but it is not a statement of absolute truth when we read all scripture through the "lens" of the finished work of Christ.
Never use obscure scripture to try and change the abundance of very clear scriptures speak on truth.
Your attempt to insult me because I believe Jesus represents us as a Man in heaven is different then what you believe is meaningless....
Exodus 32:33 (NASB)
[SUP]33 [/SUP] The LORD said to Moses, "Whoever has sinned against Me, I will blot him out of My book.
So, taking this scripture by itself - you DP have sinned and so you are blotted out of God's book.
This scripture is truly stated but it is not a statement of absolute truth when we read all scripture through the "lens" of the finished work of Christ.
Never use obscure scripture to try and change the abundance of very clear scriptures speak on truth.
Your attempt to insult me because I believe Jesus represents us as a Man in heaven is different then what you believe is meaningless....
This below is God's Holy Writ too.
Exodus 32:33 (NASB)
[SUP]33 [/SUP] The LORD said to Moses, "Whoever has sinned against Me, I will blot him out of My book.
So, taking this scripture by itself - you DP have sinned and so you are blotted out of God's book.
This scripture is truly stated but it is not a statement of absolute truth when we read all scripture through the "lens" of the finished work of Christ.
Your attempt to insult me because I believe Jesus represents us as a Man in heaven is different then what you believe is meaningless....
Exodus 32:33 (NASB)
[SUP]33 [/SUP] The LORD said to Moses, "Whoever has sinned against Me, I will blot him out of My book.
So, taking this scripture by itself - you DP have sinned and so you are blotted out of God's book.
This scripture is truly stated but it is not a statement of absolute truth when we read all scripture through the "lens" of the finished work of Christ.
Your attempt to insult me because I believe Jesus represents us as a Man in heaven is different then what you believe is meaningless....
Go back to your fishing, this stuff is just too difficult for your brain.
T
We're not arguing, we're discussing. RobbyEarl and I were talking about the story of Lazarus and the rich man and whether it was a parable or not. Also, I don't disagree with you in that God's Image is that of man. He has been revealed to us in His Word in the masculine. But when the Bible says 'man is made in the Image of God' it means mankind (both males and females).
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permit me to ask this question pls. what do you understand by spiritual body? Remember that Christ eat with His disciples after His Resurrection. He even asked Doubting Thomas to touch Him! yes he had a spiritual body( glorified body) . A spiritual body is not necessarily an immaterial body. its rather a body that is exempt from corruption( effects of the fall ). At His incarnation, Christ picked up the corrupt body of humanity( but without being contaminated by it) That's why he hungered, he thirst, he got tire, he slept, and even cried! but after His resurrection a new body was given him. its call spiritual bc its the kind of body God intended for man. please read 1 Cor 15:42-44
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Scripture doesn't line up with your comment in blue above.
1 Timothy 2:5 (NASB)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
Christ Jesus is still in heaven - and He is still a man and God = both 100% It's a mystery and hard for our little minds to comprehend how this can be....
He is our representative as a man before the Father.
i really wonder how "we" think sometimes! Do "we" want to say that the body Jesus eat with and even asked Thomas to touch suddenly became an immaterial body while he ascended into heaven?
Jesus' resurrected body was a 'transfiguration' of His flesh body nailed to the cross. This is why His resurrection body still has the marks of His crucifixion, even to this day. We shall forever... remember His sacrifice on the cross for us.
Our flesh bodies will not... be transfigured like His, but ours will still be like His resurrected body as far as the Heavenly dimension is concerned. That's why Paul called our glorified body "a spiritual body" in 1 Cor.15.
In Eccl.12:5-7, God through Solomon showed us a mystery about our created makeup. He said there, at death of our flesh there is a thing called a "silver cord" that is loosed, which apparently connects our spirit and flesh together. When it is severed, then our flesh body goes back to the earthly elements where it came from, but our spirit goes back to God Who gave it. Some have tried to say that spirit there only means some idea of animate spirit, something which even animals and plants have. But in Matt.10:28 where Jesus showed that one's soul still lives on after death of their flesh body, that's got to be what that spirit is that goes back to God. As a matter of fact, that is exactly the idea Apostle Paul taught in 2 Corinthians 5 about being absent from the body and rather being present with The Lord.
Because the NT teaches about one's spirit and soul continuing after flesh death, that is pointing to a fact about our created makeup, that we have a spirit with soul attached to our flesh body which it is released if our "silver cord" is severed at flesh death. But that's not all to understand.
How is our spirit different than our soul? Well, what kind of body did Paul teach the resurrection is? He said it is a "spiritual body". A body of spirit, meaning outward likeness and appearance. And per the Gen.18 example of the angels eating what Abraham prepared, and the sodomites of Gen.19 seeing the two angels as young men, it means that outward likeness or image of the spiritual body looks like flesh, and feels like flesh, and in many ways operates like a flesh body. But it's not flesh. It's made up of spirit, just not the idiotic ghost spirit stuff of Hollywood horror movies.
But our soul, that's the heart or center of our person, what science calls our Id. It's what makes each one of us our own individual person that God created. It is attached to that spiritual body image (resurrection body).
Like I've said many times, whether we are here on earth in the flesh, or in the resurrection body of the Heavenly dimension, we still need a vehicle for our soul to get around in. It's our flesh while living on earth. It's our resurrection body after flesh death.
Our flesh bodies will not... be transfigured like His, but ours will still be like His resurrected body as far as the Heavenly dimension is concerned. That's why Paul called our glorified body "a spiritual body" in 1 Cor.15.
In Eccl.12:5-7, God through Solomon showed us a mystery about our created makeup. He said there, at death of our flesh there is a thing called a "silver cord" that is loosed, which apparently connects our spirit and flesh together. When it is severed, then our flesh body goes back to the earthly elements where it came from, but our spirit goes back to God Who gave it. Some have tried to say that spirit there only means some idea of animate spirit, something which even animals and plants have. But in Matt.10:28 where Jesus showed that one's soul still lives on after death of their flesh body, that's got to be what that spirit is that goes back to God. As a matter of fact, that is exactly the idea Apostle Paul taught in 2 Corinthians 5 about being absent from the body and rather being present with The Lord.
Because the NT teaches about one's spirit and soul continuing after flesh death, that is pointing to a fact about our created makeup, that we have a spirit with soul attached to our flesh body which it is released if our "silver cord" is severed at flesh death. But that's not all to understand.
How is our spirit different than our soul? Well, what kind of body did Paul teach the resurrection is? He said it is a "spiritual body". A body of spirit, meaning outward likeness and appearance. And per the Gen.18 example of the angels eating what Abraham prepared, and the sodomites of Gen.19 seeing the two angels as young men, it means that outward likeness or image of the spiritual body looks like flesh, and feels like flesh, and in many ways operates like a flesh body. But it's not flesh. It's made up of spirit, just not the idiotic ghost spirit stuff of Hollywood horror movies.
But our soul, that's the heart or center of our person, what science calls our Id. It's what makes each one of us our own individual person that God created. It is attached to that spiritual body image (resurrection body).
Like I've said many times, whether we are here on earth in the flesh, or in the resurrection body of the Heavenly dimension, we still need a vehicle for our soul to get around in. It's our flesh while living on earth. It's our resurrection body after flesh death.
