GREASY GRACE?
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Nice embellishment of the word of God to promote your working for salvation.....
Quote the verse and the word eternal before death.....no bible I have states , "for the wages of sin is eternal death"
False teachers know no bounds...embellish, twist, change and or deny the inspired words and their definitions...
Quote the verse and the word eternal before death.....no bible I have states , "for the wages of sin is eternal death"
False teachers know no bounds...embellish, twist, change and or deny the inspired words and their definitions...
There is no such thing as "greasy grace" - that is a term used by some people to disparage the grace of God that is in Christ and it is a derogatory term used by those that speak about Jesus as if He is a liar.
The true grace of God teaches us how to live godly in this present world but instead we replace it with our own self-righteousness.
Jesus said that the Holy Spirit will be with us forever. There are those that say Jesus lied about this. Jesus also said that He would never leave nor forsake us - but there are those that say again that Jesus is a liar and that He will in fact forsake us.
The apostle Paul is also lying when he said that after we believed - we were sealed with the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption.
This Pentecostal belief that people lose salvation has done more harm to the body of Christ than any other foul lie from the enemy. It has put more Christians into depression and mental illness then any other foul doctrine of lies from the enemy.
The proponents of this foul offspring of the enemy like to use the term "greasy grace" because they don't know the gospel of the grace of God yet. They have a works-based salvation mindset which actually denies the Lord Jesus Christ and exchange His beautiful work on the cross and resurrection for their own D.I.Y. self-righteousness/holiness.
We should be preaching and teaching the grace of Christ for us. In Him we have redemption - the forgiveness of sins. He is not a liar. He can be trusted.
Keep our eyes on Jesus because it is with the revelation of Him that grace comes for life and living. We are to "fix our hope completely on this grace that comes with the revelation of Jesus"
1 Peter 1:13
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Therefore, prepare your minds for action, keep sober in spirit, fix your hope completely on the grace being brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ.
The true grace of God teaches us how to live godly in this present world but instead we replace it with our own self-righteousness.
Jesus said that the Holy Spirit will be with us forever. There are those that say Jesus lied about this. Jesus also said that He would never leave nor forsake us - but there are those that say again that Jesus is a liar and that He will in fact forsake us.
The apostle Paul is also lying when he said that after we believed - we were sealed with the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption.
This Pentecostal belief that people lose salvation has done more harm to the body of Christ than any other foul lie from the enemy. It has put more Christians into depression and mental illness then any other foul doctrine of lies from the enemy.
The proponents of this foul offspring of the enemy like to use the term "greasy grace" because they don't know the gospel of the grace of God yet. They have a works-based salvation mindset which actually denies the Lord Jesus Christ and exchange His beautiful work on the cross and resurrection for their own D.I.Y. self-righteousness/holiness.
We should be preaching and teaching the grace of Christ for us. In Him we have redemption - the forgiveness of sins. He is not a liar. He can be trusted.
Keep our eyes on Jesus because it is with the revelation of Him that grace comes for life and living. We are to "fix our hope completely on this grace that comes with the revelation of Jesus"
1 Peter 1:13
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Therefore, prepare your minds for action, keep sober in spirit, fix your hope completely on the grace being brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ.
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Well since there was no pentacostal church before 1900 or so it stands to reason they would mock Jesus and His message. It is sad that the gospel of Jesus isn't enough for some and even more shameful that those same people mock it. That said there have been those since the time of paul unable or unwilling to lay aside their ego and pride and have faith in what Jesus accomplished at the cross. They can not imagine that the power of salvation belongs to God and not them.
WHO IN THIS FORUM SAID JESUS IS A LIAR? N O B O D Y!
Most of the other denominations taught you could lose your salvation long before 1906.
Now who's lying?
There's not a christian denomination or theology that denies the Lord Jesus.
ANOTHER FABRICATED LIE.
As usual, a one-verse wonder.
1 Peter 1:13Therefore, prepare your minds for action, keep sober in spirit, fix your hope completely on the grace to be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ. 14As obedient children, do not be conformed to the former lusts which were yours in your ignorance, 15but like the Holy One who called you, be holy yourselves also in all your behavior; 16because it is written, “YOU SHALL BE HOLY, FOR I AM HOLY.”
Obedience is required for your quoted scripture said so.
Most of the other denominations taught you could lose your salvation long before 1906.
Now who's lying?
There's not a christian denomination or theology that denies the Lord Jesus.
ANOTHER FABRICATED LIE.
As usual, a one-verse wonder.
1 Peter 1:13Therefore, prepare your minds for action, keep sober in spirit, fix your hope completely on the grace to be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ. 14As obedient children, do not be conformed to the former lusts which were yours in your ignorance, 15but like the Holy One who called you, be holy yourselves also in all your behavior; 16because it is written, “YOU SHALL BE HOLY, FOR I AM HOLY.”
Obedience is required for your quoted scripture said so.
Baby Christians are the ones that do these behaviors as Peter talks about later on in 1 Peter.
Those that have malice and that slander others in the body of Christ are the very ones that need to believe the scriptures concerning behavior and should be relying on the grace of God for the transformation into godly behavior.
The hypocrisy of these behaviors is self-evident in the D.I.Y. self-righteousness/holiness mindsets. These are just as destructive as the one who is living the homosexual lifestyle.
1 Peter 2:1-2 (NASB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Therefore, putting aside all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander,
[SUP]2 [/SUP] like newborn babies, long for the pure milk of the word, so that by it you may grow in respect to salvation,
Those that have malice and that slander others in the body of Christ are the very ones that need to believe the scriptures concerning behavior and should be relying on the grace of God for the transformation into godly behavior.
The hypocrisy of these behaviors is self-evident in the D.I.Y. self-righteousness/holiness mindsets. These are just as destructive as the one who is living the homosexual lifestyle.
1 Peter 2:1-2 (NASB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Therefore, putting aside all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander,
[SUP]2 [/SUP] like newborn babies, long for the pure milk of the word, so that by it you may grow in respect to salvation,
its actually far worse than death, "eternal punishment" that is the wages of sin under the new covenant.
matthew 25:41-46 "Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46And these shall go away into EVERLASTING PUNISHMENT: but the righteous into life eternal."
Jesus said this many times but i know you hold to paul alone..so
romans 2:5-11 "Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance? 5But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; 6Who will render to every man according to his deeds: 7TO THEM who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, ETERNAL LIFE: 8But unto them that are contentious, and DO NOT OBEY THE TRUTH, BUT OBEY UNRIGHTEOUSNESS, indignation and WRATH, 9Tribulation and anguish, upon EVERY SOUL OF MAN THAT DIETH EVIL, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 10But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: 11For there is NO RESPECT OF PERSONS with God."
Galatians 6:7-9 "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. 8For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap CORRUPTION; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap LIFE EVERLASTING. 9And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, IF WE FAINT NOT."
2 corinthians 5:9-10 "Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him. 10For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. ( matthew 25:31-46 ) would be Jesus telling of His own return and His seat of Judgement. but pauls words make no difference in the matter for He will also be Judged according to His deeds.
Theres plenty more of the word regarding Judgement but there is no difference in any of it. Faith saves us because by Faith we obey Jesus. ( of course if a poerson labels Jesus and paul as false teachers or claim " that word of God doesnt apply to me" it probly makes no sense)
Really though eternal death would be far better than an eternity wishing for death because of the torment,
There is Gods Grace that promotes righteousness and there is a warning against changing His Grace into i liscence to continue in sin. which is where " greasy grace" " hypergrace" labels like that come in because people understand Gods Grace will never oppose obedience to Gods Word, rather Grace rejoices in the truth and becomes zealous for the rightouesness of Jesus Christ.
matthew 25:41-46 "Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46And these shall go away into EVERLASTING PUNISHMENT: but the righteous into life eternal."
Jesus said this many times but i know you hold to paul alone..so
romans 2:5-11 "Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance? 5But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; 6Who will render to every man according to his deeds: 7TO THEM who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, ETERNAL LIFE: 8But unto them that are contentious, and DO NOT OBEY THE TRUTH, BUT OBEY UNRIGHTEOUSNESS, indignation and WRATH, 9Tribulation and anguish, upon EVERY SOUL OF MAN THAT DIETH EVIL, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 10But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: 11For there is NO RESPECT OF PERSONS with God."
Galatians 6:7-9 "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. 8For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap CORRUPTION; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap LIFE EVERLASTING. 9And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, IF WE FAINT NOT."
2 corinthians 5:9-10 "Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him. 10For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. ( matthew 25:31-46 ) would be Jesus telling of His own return and His seat of Judgement. but pauls words make no difference in the matter for He will also be Judged according to His deeds.
Theres plenty more of the word regarding Judgement but there is no difference in any of it. Faith saves us because by Faith we obey Jesus. ( of course if a poerson labels Jesus and paul as false teachers or claim " that word of God doesnt apply to me" it probly makes no sense)
Really though eternal death would be far better than an eternity wishing for death because of the torment,
There is Gods Grace that promotes righteousness and there is a warning against changing His Grace into i liscence to continue in sin. which is where " greasy grace" " hypergrace" labels like that come in because people understand Gods Grace will never oppose obedience to Gods Word, rather Grace rejoices in the truth and becomes zealous for the rightouesness of Jesus Christ.
Grace is not a license to sin as many "claim" to say that others do say it is a license to sin. People that say stuff like that have no idea of the gospel of the grace of God yet.
No person who believes in the grace of God says it is ok to sin all you want. That is a lie from the enemy and they use labels like "greasy grace" to disparage the true gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ.
[video=youtube;C9gQ5wrHUKU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9gQ5wrHUKU[/video]
No person who believes in the grace of God says it is ok to sin all you want. That is a lie from the enemy and they use labels like "greasy grace" to disparage the true gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ.
[video=youtube;C9gQ5wrHUKU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9gQ5wrHUKU[/video]
There is Gods Grace in accordance with truth.
titus 2:11-15 "For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, 12Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; 13Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; 14Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works."
and there is a distortion of the word grace
jude 1:3-4 "Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. 4For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ."
Gods true Grace came through Jesus and is bound to the truth of Jesus.
the word grace that is distorted teaches omission of the truth that is in Jesus.
The truth is that Grace is meant for the express purpose to teaches to repent of sin, and to Live righteous Lives according to Jesus Christ because Judgement is coming with certainty it will be just like Jesus said.
The Lie is that Grace pardons ongoing sin which will never lead to righteousness. Gods grace v mans grace
titus 2:11-15 "For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, 12Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; 13Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; 14Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works."
and there is a distortion of the word grace
jude 1:3-4 "Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. 4For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ."
Gods true Grace came through Jesus and is bound to the truth of Jesus.
the word grace that is distorted teaches omission of the truth that is in Jesus.
The truth is that Grace is meant for the express purpose to teaches to repent of sin, and to Live righteous Lives according to Jesus Christ because Judgement is coming with certainty it will be just like Jesus said.
The Lie is that Grace pardons ongoing sin which will never lead to righteousness. Gods grace v mans grace
