GOD saw that the light was good and He separated the light from the darkness

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LaurenTM

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is God in the darkness?

has He somehow created something in which He does not or cannot exist?

is this an existential question or a biblical statement or does the Bible say something different?







7Where can I go from your Spirit?Where can I flee from your presence?

8If I go up to the heavens, you are there;if I make my bed in the depths, you are there.

9If I rise on the wings of the dawn,if I settle on the far side of the sea,

10even there your hand will guide me,your right hand will hold me fast.

11If I say, “Surely the darkness will hide meand the light become night around me,”

12even the darkness will not be dark to you;the night will shine like the day,for darkness is as light to you.

Psalm 139
 
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BeyondET

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God glows in the dark that is all that is needed...
 
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lastofall

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It is a good thing to learn not to think above that which is written to avoid exaggeration and over-estimation.
 
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LaurenTM

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lastofall said:
It is a good thing to learn not to think above that which is written to avoid exaggeration and over-estimation.
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I call that avoidance

do you ever leave your comfort zone?

there is a question with scripture..nothing too scary
 
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Jesus calls himself the "light of the world", and light is only revealed in the darkness.
 
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LaurenTM said:
oh He does, does He now?

interesting since He is invisible
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Do you think his invisible??

I don't think his invisible I might not be able to see his form with my physical eyes but that doesn't mean he isn't glowing like a blinding light...
 
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Invisible? I see him in the love of my family's eyes, feel him when I'm hugged warmly, hear his voice of encouragement and faith. We, who are His body (filled with His Spirit) give out his presence in very physical ways.

And I have also felt a warming inside of me as I was praying. I have had a word actually whispered in my ear.

If you want more of God's presence, go to where people are worshiping and loving him. He "inhabits the praises of his people".
 
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LaurenTM said:
I call that avoidance

do you ever leave your comfort zone?

there is a question with scripture..nothing too scary
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This is not avoidance. It is actually good Biblical doctrine. Yes we may "wonder" about these things but we should not try to understand them if God does not reveal them. There are things that are "the secret things of God" that we need not be concerned with (Deuteronomy 29:29). The things that God reveals to us in His creation and in His Word are what we should medditate on. We are not to try and use our own minds to learn the "secret things of God". This is how bad theology and cults are started.
 
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Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

In the darkness of Gen 1:2, God moved upon the face of the waters.

According to Gesenius's Lexicon, the word moved means "to brood over" and is "figuratively used of the Spirit of God, Who brooded over the shapeless mass of the earth, cherishing and vivifying".
[Blue Letter Bible - Lexicon]
 
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LaurenTM said:
oh He does, does He now?

interesting since He is invisible
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God is (be verb) light and dwells in light.... ;)

This is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you, that God is Light, and in Him there is no darkness at all.

which He will bring about at the proper time-- He who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords, who alone possesses immortality and dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see. To Him be honor and eternal dominion! Amen.
 
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BeyondET said:
Do you think his invisible??

I don't think his invisible I might not be able to see his form with my physical eyes but that doesn't mean he isn't glowing like a blinding light...
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or maybe it does mean He is invisible...hmmm


He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. Colossians 1:15
 
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LaurenTM

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Joidevivre said:
Invisible? I see him in the love of my family's eyes, feel him when I'm hugged warmly, hear his voice of encouragement and faith. We, who are His body (filled with His Spirit) give out his presence in very physical ways.

And I have also felt a warming inside of me as I was praying. I have had a word actually whispered in my ear.

If you want more of God's presence, go to where people are worshiping and loving him. He "inhabits the praises of his people".
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I appreciate what you say but does not apply to the op or scripture I gave

but thanks

the op is actually about whether or not God is in darkness as well as light...not how we perceive Him
 
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dcontroversal said:
God is (be verb) light and dwells in light.... ;)

This is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you, that God is Light, and in Him there is no darkness at all.

which He will bring about at the proper time-- He who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords, who alone possesses immortality and dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see. To Him be honor and eternal dominion! Amen.
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ok

well the reason for my question, is that the Bible seems to indicate we cannot go anywhere to get away from God

scripture in the op

so I am asking, is God in the darkness or in the light only?

thanks
 
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LaurenTM said:
ok

well the reason for my question, is that the Bible seems to indicate we cannot go anywhere to get away from God

scripture in the op

so I am asking, is God in the darkness or in the light only?

thanks
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The only way i can answer this question is by saying that God is omnipresent. God is everywhere. In both the dark and the light. God dwells everywhere but He can also "hide" certain attributes if He so pleases. For example; God is present in hell but only allows His justice and wrath be shown there in a way only He can do, He keeps attributes like love, mercy, comfort ect. from those in hell. Those in hell do not feel these attributes of God. (This is my understanding from my study of the attributes of God).

I dont know if this answers your specific question but it is the only way i know to answer.
 
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Sac49 said:
The only way i can answer this question is by saying that God is omnipresent. God is everywhere. In both the dark and the light. God dwells everywhere but He can also "hide" certain attributes if He so pleases. For example; God is present in hell but only allows His justice and wrath be shown there in a way only He can do, He keeps attributes like love, mercy, comfort ect. from those in hell. Those in hell do not feel these attributes of God. (This is my understanding from my study of the attributes of God).

I dont know if this answers your specific question but it is the only way i know to answer.
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okay

not speaking of hell or any other concept...

just if God be in the darkness as we know He is in the light

in particular, this caught my eye when reading Psalm 139 this am...


7Where can I go from your Spirit?Where can I flee from your presence?

8If I go up to the heavens, you are there;if I make my bed in the depths, you are there.

9If I rise on the wings of the dawn,if I settle on the far side of the sea,

10even there your hand will guide me,your right hand will hold me fast.

11If I say, “Surely the darkness will hide me and the light become night around me,”

12even the darkness will not be dark to you;the night will shine like the day,for darkness is as light to you.

Psalm 139

does that jump out at you? it jumped out at me even though I have read it and sung it many times...I just took it for granted that God is in the darkness as well and those verses seem to say He that is so

some believe God is not and cannot be in darkness or the darkness

just wondering how others see this

and thanks so much for responding...not trying to be hard on you...honest!
 
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LaurenTM said:
ok

well the reason for my question, is that the Bible seems to indicate we cannot go anywhere to get away from God

scripture in the op

so I am asking, is God in the darkness or in the light only?

thanks
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I think it means the following....Not that God is in darkness, but rather that he sees everything.....Revelation and the creatures...loaded with eyes etc...

Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.


And the four living creatures, each one of them having six wings, are full of eyes around and within; and day and night they do not cease to say, "HOLY, HOLY, HOLY is THE LORD GOD, THE ALMIGHTY, WHO WAS AND WHO IS AND WHO IS TO COME."
 
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I think God is everywhere in our physical realm, I suppose he is or it wouldn't say so in that verse. God is unlimited in his ability, therefore he could go into the darkness in one way or another.

even the darkness will not be dark to you;the night will shine like the day,for darkness is as light to you


 
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LaurenTM said:
okay

not speaking of hell or any other concept...

just if God be in the darkness as we know He is in the light

in particular, this caught my eye when reading Psalm 139 this am...


7Where can I go from your Spirit?Where can I flee from your presence?

8If I go up to the heavens, you are there;if I make my bed in the depths, you are there.

9If I rise on the wings of the dawn,if I settle on the far side of the sea,

10even there your hand will guide me,your right hand will hold me fast.

11If I say, “Surely the darkness will hide me and the light become night around me,”

12even the darkness will not be dark to you;the night will shine like the day,for darkness is as light to you.

Psalm 139

does that jump out at you? it jumped out at me even though I have read it and sung it many times...I just took it for granted that God is in the darkness as well and those verses seem to say He that is so

some believe God is not and cannot be in darkness or the darkness

just wondering how others see this

and thanks so much for responding...not trying to be hard on you...honest!
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Yes this is refering to the omnipresense of God. Basically there is nowhere we can go that we will be seperated from His presense. David is making note of how God is literally everywhere. We have no place to hide from Him.

Very good question as many do not believe in the omnipresense of God. Kind of makes your head spin doesnt it. He is the only person/being that can be in more than one place at a time. Many also think satan also has this attribute which is wrong. Since we are a creature of one place at a time it can be hard to comprehend. This also makes you very aware of the things you do "in secret". God still sees you.
 
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LaurenTM

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dcontroversal said:
I think it means the following....Not that God is in darkness, but rather that he sees everything.....Revelation and the creatures...loaded with eyes etc...

Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.


And the four living creatures, each one of them having six wings, are full of eyes around and within; and day and night they do not cease to say, "HOLY, HOLY, HOLY is THE LORD GOD, THE ALMIGHTY, WHO WAS AND WHO IS AND WHO IS TO COME."
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that does sound reasonable to me...(not that I am the litmus test here haha)

but I can see that being applied to this:


11If I say, “Surely the darkness will hide me and the light become night around me,”

12even the darkness will not be dark to you;the night will shine like the day,for darkness is as light to you.

I still think it also means He can be in the darkness as well...not meaning He is part of it in the sense we understand darkness

anyway...thanks!
 
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