Love and the Law

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FreeNChrist

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The point I was trying to make is that God created a perfect heaven and earth, then the LORD God put the tree of temptation in the garden, and God who created the heaven and the earth is not the same as the LORD God who placed temptation before the man.

This explains why Abraham named several places after the LORD, then after God says to Jacob that Abraham didn't know him by that name. There are different gods visiting the humans.

Of the Elohim, the LORD lead the Israelites out of Egypt and did magnify himself as the One True God. He caused them to make a throne of gold and to sacrifice animals, and He promised them good land and longevity and a life of abundance.

When Jesus taught how to pray, why did he not give the Father a name or use the name prescribed in Deuteronomy 32:3? Is it not written that Adam gave names to every beast of the field?

Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
And the point I am making is that the point you are making is wrong.
 
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FreeNChrist

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Thats because His point includes scripture, and you are motivated by nothing applies
You agree with him? LOL. How hilarious. Why am I not surprised? :rolleyes:
 
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You agree with him? LOL. How hilarious. Why am I not surprised? :rolleyes:

Naw i didnt say i agreed or disagreed either way. concerning what He is saying

The tree of good and evil was always part of Gods plan for mankind to fall, so that Jesus could be exalted. For the purpose of fear that leads to wisdom and a knowledge that we must depend on God.

God says " for when you do this you will surely die"

the first result is fear of God, and fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. Jesus came with the spirit of God teaching the Love of God, those who follow that are perfected in His Love and become the image of Gods Son or "children of God" God has always been the same His plan was always what we have in Christ the beginning lead us to to Christ. who does this

God was seperating the dark from the Light.

genesis 3:10 "And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was AFRAID, because I was naked; and I HID myself. "

Proverbs 9:10 "The FEARof the LORD is the beginning of WISDOM: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding."

colossians 2:2-3 "That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3In whom are hid all the treasures of WISDOM and knowledge."

1 john 2:5" 5But whoso KEEPETH HIS WORD, in him verily is the LOVE OF GOD PERFECTED: hereby know we that we are in him."

1 john 4: 18-19 "There is no fear in love; but PERFECT LOVE CASTETH OUT FEAR: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love. 19We love him, because he first loved us. "

adam lacked wisdom, He sinned and it brought fear, this was the beginning of wisdom, Christ came with wisdom, wisdom is to obey God' which is what adam Lacked, Gods cammands are true Love, when we keep the words of Christ His Love is made perfect in us and that casts out fear because fear comes from disobedience and the wrath that comes with it. the end result is wisdom for man, and fear is Gone...so in eternity, no one will be foolish enough to sin and die, having been made wise and having the knowledge of depending on Christ the Only Savior.
 

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Psalm 111:10, "The fear of יהוה is the beginning of wisdom, All those doing them have a good understanding. His praise is standing forever."
 
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Psalm 111:10, "The fear of יהוה is the beginning of wisdom, All those doing them have a good understanding. His praise is standing forever."
The legendary wisdom of solomon....and His conclusion of the matter after considering everything under the sun.

ecclesiastes 12:13-14 "Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil."
 
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God is love,and loves people,not blessing the saints with money and material things for personal use,but loves people,and that is how we show the world the truth is by helping the poor,and needy.

But the saints are not loving people like they should,and eventually it will be the occult that will be the benefit in the world.

Love works no ill towards their neighbor,therefore love is the fulfilling of the law,which the Bible calls it charity,love in action,and we are to help people any time we have the money,and time.

The Bible says some people think living for God is material and monetary gain,from such withdraw thyself,having food,and clothing,be content,for the love of money is the root of all evil,which people that covet money has erred from the faith,and that faith is to believe in a kingdom based on love,and money is the root of all evil for it violates the 2 greatest commandments,love God,and love people,for when you love people you love God,and people that covet money neglect the poor and needy,which is what it is all about.

God said if someone has this world's good,and only says I love you to a person,but does nothing to help their need of lack of food,how does the love of God dwell in them,do not love in word only,but love in deed and in truth.

Which James says the same thing concerning faith,if you do not help people with their needs if you can,how do you have faith.

The 2 greatest commandments love God,and love people,are the only thing that apply in the New Testament,and it is all about taking action to help people any time you can that is the fulfilling of the law,for out of faith,hope,and charity,love in action,charity is the greatest,and also it is the greatest for faith and hope are not needed in heaven,but love will go on forever.
 
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FreeNChrist

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Naw i didnt say i agreed or disagreed either way. concerning what He is saying
So you just stuck your nose in where it didn't belong because you thought you had something you could discredit me personally with? And why would you want to do that? LOL.
 
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God is love,and loves people,not blessing the saints with money and material things for personal use,but loves people,and that is how we show the world the truth is by helping the poor,and needy.

But the saints are not loving people like they should,and eventually it will be the occult that will be the benefit in the world.

Love works no ill towards their neighbor,therefore love is the fulfilling of the law,which the Bible calls it charity,love in action,and we are to help people any time we have the money,and time.

The Bible says some people think living for God is material and monetary gain,from such withdraw thyself,having food,and clothing,be content,for the love of money is the root of all evil,which people that covet money has erred from the faith,and that faith is to believe in a kingdom based on love,and money is the root of all evil for it violates the 2 greatest commandments,love God,and love people,for when you love people you love God,and people that covet money neglect the poor and needy,which is what it is all about.

God said if someone has this world's good,and only says I love you to a person,but does nothing to help their need of lack of food,how does the love of God dwell in them,do not love in word only,but love in deed and in truth.

Which James says the same thing concerning faith,if you do not help people with their needs if you can,how do you have faith.

The 2 greatest commandments love God,and love people,are the only thing that apply in the New Testament,and it is all about taking action to help people any time you can that is the fulfilling of the law,for out of faith,hope,and charity,love in action,charity is the greatest,and also it is the greatest for faith and hope are not needed in heaven,but love will go on forever.

amen. the Love of money is a terrible evil under the sun and idolatry according to paul and Jesus as well.

People should consider that the needy person who is praying for help, His prayers are not magically answered as if you pray and then wake up with a pile of money in your basement. But rather those who are able financially and have Gods Love in thier heart are Gods answer to things like that. when the person will heed the word that says " give to the poor" they take thier money in thier hands and give it to the one with need. God works in them through the truth of His Love in us.

1 john 3:16-18"Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.17But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him? 18My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in DEED AND TRUTH."

james 2:14-17 "What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?15If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, 16And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? 17Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone."

we can say i love everyone, but to act in the Love of God is our commandment.
 

JaumeJ

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Undeniable! Amen..

amen. the Love of money is a terrible evil under the sun and idolatry according to paul and Jesus as well.

People should consider that the needy person who is praying for help, His prayers are not magically answered as if you pray and then wake up with a pile of money in your basement. But rather those who are able financially and have Gods Love in thier heart are Gods answer to things like that. when the person will heed the word that says " give to the poor" they take thier money in thier hands and give it to the one with need. God works in them through the truth of His Love in us.

1 john 3:16-18"Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.17But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him? 18My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in DEED AND TRUTH."

james 2:14-17 "What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?15If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, 16And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? 17Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone."

we can say i love everyone, but to act in the Love of God is our commandment.