WHO ARE YOU IN GOD'S EYES?
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Acts of love.
When you look at all you do, most of it is about surviving.
But then like light in the darkness an act of love will shine out, like a jewel
eternal, a gift from the King through you to others.
This is what God sees, but do you? Know how precious you are, how deeply
He wants to see you walk in life and love each day.
So watch to see where to give these acts of love and do His work today.
When you look at all you do, most of it is about surviving.
But then like light in the darkness an act of love will shine out, like a jewel
eternal, a gift from the King through you to others.
This is what God sees, but do you? Know how precious you are, how deeply
He wants to see you walk in life and love each day.
So watch to see where to give these acts of love and do His work today.
D
Try coming up with that grand illusion again. What I have feared:
1. My mother leaving our dad with us and moving us 1500 miles away, only to find out, two weeks later, she is dying from cancer.
2. I'm my little brother's godmother. I was raised Catholic, so that means something specific, and yet I was just born again, and on my mother's death bed she had me promise to raise my little brother in the RCC. Do I break my wrod or do I figure out how to raise him Catholic but have him realize what salvation in Christ is?
3. Mom dies, and I am forced back to live with a Dad who managed to avoid me all my life, because I have to take care of that little brother I promised I would.
4. I'm also facing one horrible fact, and I can't talk to anyone about it, becaise I'm moving 1500 miles away. WoFers (before there was such a phrase) promised me that, because they laid hands on Mom and prayed, she would be healed.I'm barely 16 years old, and they laid that on me and weren't around when Mom died.
5. Realizing I have four years of college to get a degree and yet I can't get the degree in the one an only job I know, because I stink at it.
6. Being raped by five guys.
7. Going through drug rehab, (because let's face it, by now God has certianly not lived up to his end of the bargain according to all those WoFers taught me.)
8. Trying to figure out what I do with my life with one very useless college degree.
9. Two years and two days after I married the dearest man, he breaks his back and cannot work. I've been trying the housewife thing, so I'm not working.
10. Being threatened by the IRS on a Friday night 5 minutes before their computers go down that if we don't give them the rest of the $10,000 we owe, (oh, and BTW they know about that because that's what they decided we owed after telling us we needed to show all our records for the last seven years. Try that some time, when three of those year's records were thrown out by the ex-wife. And we had been giving them $300 every two weeks for a year by then, as they promised us we could do) by Monday at 9 AM, (and this was back in the days when banks were closed for the weekend.)
11. Finding out husband's job will be terminated, after being promised you can keep your governmental job until you retire. (I had just started my own business, so it had to fly well before he was terminated.)
12. Having to give up my business because removing one little gallbladder came with taking me off the operating table and pinching my back in jkust the right spot that the pain radiated right to where the gall bladder used to be, and because no doctor wanted to admit their friend, the surgeon, might have screwed up, no one bothered telling me the cause of that pain for 15 years. By then it was too late in so many ways.
13. Realizing God's plan for our life was for us to live on 60% of what we were used to living on. (Sure enough, the business finally made money the same month the gallbladder was removed, and that was the same month my husband lost his governmental job.) Hubby got into the computer field then, which was fairly lively to fix the Y2K Bug.
14. Realizing that fixing the Y2K bug, plus many dotcom businesses failed, and then many more businesses failed when planes couldn't roam the skies for three days after terrorist demolished the Trade Center, all helped tank the computer field. I'm disabled and he can't find a new job.
15. Then he's too tired to go to job interviews. And then he had a blind spot in the center of his eye that bothered him enough that he went to the eye doctor, who immediately sent him to his primary, because that blind spot was a burst blood vessel. Any other burst blood vessels in his head would have been a stroke. He had high blood pressure.
16. Oh, and when the blood tests came back, he also had Hep C. The same day we ran out of savings! BUT, he wasn't depressed! His liver was being destroyed.
17. 24 weeks of chemo for him. He just started when our COBRA ran out. (AKA 18 months after his last job.) Got on Welfare which got us on Medicaid, so we had insurance, but the insurance really had to make sure all the I's wew dotted and the T's were crossed. If he missed any chemo treatments he had to start over again. (Welfare also gave us names of lawyers who did pro bono work. He got that delayed vial 7 AM on Christmas Eve, so he'd be too sick to celebrate Christmas, but he didn't have to start over.)
18. WHICH also happened to be when our foreclosure came in the mail. And the utility companies were getting upset that we weren't paying our full bills, because the onlt money we were living on was the $839 I got from Disability, plus the $258 food stamps.
19. Saved the house, mostly because I didn't want him to be on treatment while living in our car.
20. The chemo disables him by hiding another health problem -- diabetes. He got neuropathy, which causes him to have bad balance, plus he had something like Turret Syndrome, which tends to make idiots laugh at him, and he has something the VA refuses to acknowledge as a real disability called CFS. He's disabled too.
21. SSDI doctor lies about my husband's symptoms, so SSDI only gives him back pay for after he went through 24 WEEKS of treatment. (Most people treated for HepC don't make it through treatement, because it's that hard. It IS that hard!)
22. Dad comes down with dementia.
23. The VA catches a cyst on hubby's kidneys. 85% chance of it being cancer. They want to make a 14 inch incision to cut it out and then give him more chemo. (He knows what chemo is like by now.) The surgeon is reall a resident talking to him, and let's it slip about something calle "cryoblation." We have a week before the surgery to find out what that is and if he can get it. It's inserting a very long needle into him and freezing the cyst, befor removing it for biopsy. It's also an outpatient procedure. He gets that. Whew!
24. The cops call asking me if I know my dad. (They give me his name, of course.) He has been driving who-knows-where for 13 hours to get a haircut at the Senior Center half an hour from his house, but on the wrong day.
25. Dad tells me my older brother is over reacting over a little fire in his yard. Brother tells me that "little fire" was Dad's 16 foot long by 4 foot high woodpile burning completely down, so Dad had to have been watching it burn for hours. A neighbor called the fire department. Dad tips them ten bucks for helping him.
26. Hubby gets a strange case of indigestion one night, but he looks it up on Google and is sure it's indigestion. It sticks around. Two days later he tells me he can't breath when he lies down so he tries to sleep sitting up. Two days after that I finally take him to the VA's ER. He didn't just have a heart attack, he was still having a heart attack. They used the word "massive" and look at me odd for trying to explain that he said it was indigestion, because Google said. They tell him he's dying. If he isn't vented, immediately, he will die. The last words I heard hubby say for two months were "Holy Sh..!" Something something stents. Something something over at the next hospital. Not sure he'd make it and the other hospital is "a block away." (Two blocks. I wasn't allowed in the ambulance." Only thing hubby remembers is he was in a corridor and someone said, "This one won't make it." Hours later, something something, "how far do you want us to go." "As far as you would take it if it were you." Hours later, he was being wheeled into ICU.
27. Lived on an ECMO for nine days. The limit was ten. Pneumonia. An infection so bad it made the pneumonia look like good times. The Intensivist told me had 35 patients in critical condition but hubby was in the worse shape. He said, "that first night, he only had a 10% chance of surviving that night. He now has a 50% chance of surviving until tomorrow." He made it, but his kidneys shut down. Worse yet, they never told me they shut down. He was on dialysis for three days. And 31 days after I got him to the hospital, they finally replaced a blown valve in his heart. December 23.
28. Meanwhile, Dad is frantic. The laws in PA (where he lives) say that a person decides if they want to go into a mental facility. Dad needed two kinds. One to dry out. (He's an alcoholic, which is NOT a good thing to be with dementia, because you already forget if you have a drink, so he had eight drinks around the house at any given moment.) And one to live in after he dried out. And although he can't remember why or what, he knows something is up and maybe one of his kids will have pity on him. What's up is the oldest son, the one he told to do this if it ever needed doing, was taking the proper steps to protect Dad by getting him inpatient help. Dementia tells the patient that they have to stay in the familiar. And familiar to Dad is home. So while I'm waiting to here from the hospital when John's valve will be replaced, Dad's calling me 13 times a day. He doesn't know why other than something is wrong. And he can't remember he can't call me because I have to find out what's happening with John. Vague registry that something is wrong with him, but little does he know that vague memory is because I just told him that AGAIN a minute ago. For the first time in my life I did the impossible. I hung up on Dad. It was 1 AM and he still hadn't gotten I can't deal with him calling. When John's reconering from the operation Dad starts up again. This time he's mad at my brother for bringing cops to his house to take away his loaded gun (my brother thought he got all Dad's guns years before) after Dad threaded many times to use it. (We will never know if he was going to kill himself, my brother, or my sister.)
29. John has completely lost two months of his life. He doesn't even remember the indigestion. This is good, because during that two months he was getting a Stage Four Bedsore, and hurting his hip in a too small bed.
30. God was good one particular day. (Every day, but along with John's miracle of being alive, this was the other moment I saw God in action. I said the only thing Dad wanted was to stay in his house. He has no idea he had become a hoarder and that he was living in black mold. His lawyer went to court with him. And during that time in court, the judge got Dad to say four times that he was willing to go in for treatment and then go in for assited living. This is not Dad. Dad would never do that. This is a miracle from God.
31. And it happened right about the time John has his first memory. He learned David Bowie had died. (He couldn't talk with the vent still in him, and he was completely atrophied, so it took a lot of work for him to point at the right letters.)
32. In the seven months he was in the hospital, he received at least 50 units of blood. He was leaking from the blood thinners. The VA hospital is as bad as it was when it made it on the news. The VA nursing home is a bit better. He was put in the nursing home 4 months after being in the hospital, but was returned to the hospital four times in the three months he was in the nursing home.
33. He came home on June 23rd, supposedly well enough to take steps. He wasn't. Our bathroom is on the second floor. So is his bed.
34. He is now upstairs asleep in his bed. (I have insomnia.) Last February his heart worked at 100%. Last Tuesday we were told that it is only working at 80% now. Apparently, it's good that he has no chest pain, except he never had any chest pain. It felt like indigestion. This Thursday they're doing another test on his heart. We fear it means hie goes back into THAT hospital.
35. Burpees is having a sale on tomatoes. I'd like to buy some, because we love a good tasty tomato, (which you can't buy in stories anymore), except I remember not having time to play with my garden much last year, because of visiting John. Now I'm stuck deciding should I buy the tomatoes, or not.
THAT'S the stuff I fear. So want to go through that again, on how much power I personally have? The way I see it is no matter what I've gone through or am going through, God is with me taking me by the hand. There is no choice but to go through it. He knows me. He knows I much prefer the quiet life. Apparently I get that only at times. He's fixing me the hard way.
1. My mother leaving our dad with us and moving us 1500 miles away, only to find out, two weeks later, she is dying from cancer.
2. I'm my little brother's godmother. I was raised Catholic, so that means something specific, and yet I was just born again, and on my mother's death bed she had me promise to raise my little brother in the RCC. Do I break my wrod or do I figure out how to raise him Catholic but have him realize what salvation in Christ is?
3. Mom dies, and I am forced back to live with a Dad who managed to avoid me all my life, because I have to take care of that little brother I promised I would.
4. I'm also facing one horrible fact, and I can't talk to anyone about it, becaise I'm moving 1500 miles away. WoFers (before there was such a phrase) promised me that, because they laid hands on Mom and prayed, she would be healed.I'm barely 16 years old, and they laid that on me and weren't around when Mom died.
5. Realizing I have four years of college to get a degree and yet I can't get the degree in the one an only job I know, because I stink at it.
6. Being raped by five guys.
7. Going through drug rehab, (because let's face it, by now God has certianly not lived up to his end of the bargain according to all those WoFers taught me.)
8. Trying to figure out what I do with my life with one very useless college degree.
9. Two years and two days after I married the dearest man, he breaks his back and cannot work. I've been trying the housewife thing, so I'm not working.
10. Being threatened by the IRS on a Friday night 5 minutes before their computers go down that if we don't give them the rest of the $10,000 we owe, (oh, and BTW they know about that because that's what they decided we owed after telling us we needed to show all our records for the last seven years. Try that some time, when three of those year's records were thrown out by the ex-wife. And we had been giving them $300 every two weeks for a year by then, as they promised us we could do) by Monday at 9 AM, (and this was back in the days when banks were closed for the weekend.)
11. Finding out husband's job will be terminated, after being promised you can keep your governmental job until you retire. (I had just started my own business, so it had to fly well before he was terminated.)
12. Having to give up my business because removing one little gallbladder came with taking me off the operating table and pinching my back in jkust the right spot that the pain radiated right to where the gall bladder used to be, and because no doctor wanted to admit their friend, the surgeon, might have screwed up, no one bothered telling me the cause of that pain for 15 years. By then it was too late in so many ways.
13. Realizing God's plan for our life was for us to live on 60% of what we were used to living on. (Sure enough, the business finally made money the same month the gallbladder was removed, and that was the same month my husband lost his governmental job.) Hubby got into the computer field then, which was fairly lively to fix the Y2K Bug.
14. Realizing that fixing the Y2K bug, plus many dotcom businesses failed, and then many more businesses failed when planes couldn't roam the skies for three days after terrorist demolished the Trade Center, all helped tank the computer field. I'm disabled and he can't find a new job.
15. Then he's too tired to go to job interviews. And then he had a blind spot in the center of his eye that bothered him enough that he went to the eye doctor, who immediately sent him to his primary, because that blind spot was a burst blood vessel. Any other burst blood vessels in his head would have been a stroke. He had high blood pressure.
16. Oh, and when the blood tests came back, he also had Hep C. The same day we ran out of savings! BUT, he wasn't depressed! His liver was being destroyed.
17. 24 weeks of chemo for him. He just started when our COBRA ran out. (AKA 18 months after his last job.) Got on Welfare which got us on Medicaid, so we had insurance, but the insurance really had to make sure all the I's wew dotted and the T's were crossed. If he missed any chemo treatments he had to start over again. (Welfare also gave us names of lawyers who did pro bono work. He got that delayed vial 7 AM on Christmas Eve, so he'd be too sick to celebrate Christmas, but he didn't have to start over.)
18. WHICH also happened to be when our foreclosure came in the mail. And the utility companies were getting upset that we weren't paying our full bills, because the onlt money we were living on was the $839 I got from Disability, plus the $258 food stamps.
19. Saved the house, mostly because I didn't want him to be on treatment while living in our car.
20. The chemo disables him by hiding another health problem -- diabetes. He got neuropathy, which causes him to have bad balance, plus he had something like Turret Syndrome, which tends to make idiots laugh at him, and he has something the VA refuses to acknowledge as a real disability called CFS. He's disabled too.
21. SSDI doctor lies about my husband's symptoms, so SSDI only gives him back pay for after he went through 24 WEEKS of treatment. (Most people treated for HepC don't make it through treatement, because it's that hard. It IS that hard!)
22. Dad comes down with dementia.
23. The VA catches a cyst on hubby's kidneys. 85% chance of it being cancer. They want to make a 14 inch incision to cut it out and then give him more chemo. (He knows what chemo is like by now.) The surgeon is reall a resident talking to him, and let's it slip about something calle "cryoblation." We have a week before the surgery to find out what that is and if he can get it. It's inserting a very long needle into him and freezing the cyst, befor removing it for biopsy. It's also an outpatient procedure. He gets that. Whew!
24. The cops call asking me if I know my dad. (They give me his name, of course.) He has been driving who-knows-where for 13 hours to get a haircut at the Senior Center half an hour from his house, but on the wrong day.
25. Dad tells me my older brother is over reacting over a little fire in his yard. Brother tells me that "little fire" was Dad's 16 foot long by 4 foot high woodpile burning completely down, so Dad had to have been watching it burn for hours. A neighbor called the fire department. Dad tips them ten bucks for helping him.
26. Hubby gets a strange case of indigestion one night, but he looks it up on Google and is sure it's indigestion. It sticks around. Two days later he tells me he can't breath when he lies down so he tries to sleep sitting up. Two days after that I finally take him to the VA's ER. He didn't just have a heart attack, he was still having a heart attack. They used the word "massive" and look at me odd for trying to explain that he said it was indigestion, because Google said. They tell him he's dying. If he isn't vented, immediately, he will die. The last words I heard hubby say for two months were "Holy Sh..!" Something something stents. Something something over at the next hospital. Not sure he'd make it and the other hospital is "a block away." (Two blocks. I wasn't allowed in the ambulance." Only thing hubby remembers is he was in a corridor and someone said, "This one won't make it." Hours later, something something, "how far do you want us to go." "As far as you would take it if it were you." Hours later, he was being wheeled into ICU.
27. Lived on an ECMO for nine days. The limit was ten. Pneumonia. An infection so bad it made the pneumonia look like good times. The Intensivist told me had 35 patients in critical condition but hubby was in the worse shape. He said, "that first night, he only had a 10% chance of surviving that night. He now has a 50% chance of surviving until tomorrow." He made it, but his kidneys shut down. Worse yet, they never told me they shut down. He was on dialysis for three days. And 31 days after I got him to the hospital, they finally replaced a blown valve in his heart. December 23.
28. Meanwhile, Dad is frantic. The laws in PA (where he lives) say that a person decides if they want to go into a mental facility. Dad needed two kinds. One to dry out. (He's an alcoholic, which is NOT a good thing to be with dementia, because you already forget if you have a drink, so he had eight drinks around the house at any given moment.) And one to live in after he dried out. And although he can't remember why or what, he knows something is up and maybe one of his kids will have pity on him. What's up is the oldest son, the one he told to do this if it ever needed doing, was taking the proper steps to protect Dad by getting him inpatient help. Dementia tells the patient that they have to stay in the familiar. And familiar to Dad is home. So while I'm waiting to here from the hospital when John's valve will be replaced, Dad's calling me 13 times a day. He doesn't know why other than something is wrong. And he can't remember he can't call me because I have to find out what's happening with John. Vague registry that something is wrong with him, but little does he know that vague memory is because I just told him that AGAIN a minute ago. For the first time in my life I did the impossible. I hung up on Dad. It was 1 AM and he still hadn't gotten I can't deal with him calling. When John's reconering from the operation Dad starts up again. This time he's mad at my brother for bringing cops to his house to take away his loaded gun (my brother thought he got all Dad's guns years before) after Dad threaded many times to use it. (We will never know if he was going to kill himself, my brother, or my sister.)
29. John has completely lost two months of his life. He doesn't even remember the indigestion. This is good, because during that two months he was getting a Stage Four Bedsore, and hurting his hip in a too small bed.
30. God was good one particular day. (Every day, but along with John's miracle of being alive, this was the other moment I saw God in action. I said the only thing Dad wanted was to stay in his house. He has no idea he had become a hoarder and that he was living in black mold. His lawyer went to court with him. And during that time in court, the judge got Dad to say four times that he was willing to go in for treatment and then go in for assited living. This is not Dad. Dad would never do that. This is a miracle from God.
31. And it happened right about the time John has his first memory. He learned David Bowie had died. (He couldn't talk with the vent still in him, and he was completely atrophied, so it took a lot of work for him to point at the right letters.)
32. In the seven months he was in the hospital, he received at least 50 units of blood. He was leaking from the blood thinners. The VA hospital is as bad as it was when it made it on the news. The VA nursing home is a bit better. He was put in the nursing home 4 months after being in the hospital, but was returned to the hospital four times in the three months he was in the nursing home.
33. He came home on June 23rd, supposedly well enough to take steps. He wasn't. Our bathroom is on the second floor. So is his bed.
34. He is now upstairs asleep in his bed. (I have insomnia.) Last February his heart worked at 100%. Last Tuesday we were told that it is only working at 80% now. Apparently, it's good that he has no chest pain, except he never had any chest pain. It felt like indigestion. This Thursday they're doing another test on his heart. We fear it means hie goes back into THAT hospital.
35. Burpees is having a sale on tomatoes. I'd like to buy some, because we love a good tasty tomato, (which you can't buy in stories anymore), except I remember not having time to play with my garden much last year, because of visiting John. Now I'm stuck deciding should I buy the tomatoes, or not.
THAT'S the stuff I fear. So want to go through that again, on how much power I personally have? The way I see it is no matter what I've gone through or am going through, God is with me taking me by the hand. There is no choice but to go through it. He knows me. He knows I much prefer the quiet life. Apparently I get that only at times. He's fixing me the hard way.
S
Reading the very different responses in this thread, I once again think to myself that people receive Christ as who they are.
You can change into who He sees you as; but that is far more effort then remaining as who you already are and that would seem to be a beggar in many circumstances.
It's not true that God is responsible for everything that happens in a person's life and everything that happens in a person's life is God.
That, is rubbish and a fatalistic approach to the extreme.
The Israelites about to enter the land promised to them by God are an illustration of what we basically face in our own lives.
We can trust God and do what He asks of us or we can point to the giants and difficulties and say no thanks I will stay as I am.
God was still the God of the Israelites, but that generation all died without entering.
You can change into who He sees you as; but that is far more effort then remaining as who you already are and that would seem to be a beggar in many circumstances.
It's not true that God is responsible for everything that happens in a person's life and everything that happens in a person's life is God.
That, is rubbish and a fatalistic approach to the extreme.
The Israelites about to enter the land promised to them by God are an illustration of what we basically face in our own lives.
We can trust God and do what He asks of us or we can point to the giants and difficulties and say no thanks I will stay as I am.
God was still the God of the Israelites, but that generation all died without entering.
Getting back to the original devotional for 2/21 here by Pastor Joseph Prince for clarification. For sure we each have our individual experiences in life. How we go through these depends on so many things individually. How many giants need to be slain before you walk in the promised land?
God sees you with no flaw, spot or imperfection, so honor His Word and the finished work of His Son by saying, “Amen!” Don’t doubt your perfection in Christ.
To see yourself as being far from perfect is not modesty, but a failure to understand the perfect sacrifice that Jesus has made for you.
I agree with this and have had my religious mindsets changed right now while still here living today as a believer. Because of Jesus and His "perfect sacrifice" all who have Jesus have been made acceptable IN Him. And have all the promises by faith. Salvation is more than what we first found out when we first heard the Good news of the Gospel of Jesus Christ., grace and truth.
Some Christians believe it's somehow a bad thing to always want to "receive" from Jesus. This is a wrong mind set to have. We don't honor Jesus by trying to be strong in ourselves. He wants us to draw from Him. What many proponents against this want to do is condemn the believer who keeps drawing on Jesus! The very thing he/she ought to be doing/needs to be doing/has to be doing in order to be obedient to the faith.
John 4:32
[h=1]John 4:32Amplified Bible, Classic Edition (AMPC)[/h] [SUP]32 [/SUP]But He assured them, I have food (nourishment) to eat of which you know nothing and have no idea.
Matt.20:28 [SUP]28 [/SUP]Just as the Son of Man came not to be waited on but to serve, and to give His life as a ransom for many [the price paid to set them free].
Matt.10:8 [SUP]8 [/SUP]Cure the sick, raise the dead, cleanse the lepers, drive out demons. Freely (without pay) you have received, freely (without charge) give.
The gift of salvation is a gift that keeps on giving. When we stop taking is when we become powerless and give the enemy entry into our lives even if in small areas of weaknesses such as our own self worth and feelings of unworthiness. I've had to banish away those thoughts because IN Christ we have been made worthy. Claiming that is not prideful but instead it honors Jesus work. It is a false religious humility that refuses to claim these promises bought and paid for by Jesus Himself for us.
And also, it is a Pharisaical mind set that wants to deny others entry into the promises of God IN Christ.
Hello sevenseas, They'res a whole lot of things that are being said here that have been misjudged based on old religious mindsets people have had for years. (myself included) But I see the error of my ways and want to share in the freedom given in Christ.
Just to be clear, the devotional I use here on this thread was written by Pastor Joseph Prince. It's called Destined To Reign. This devotional in a small condensed way challenges many of the religious mindsets I've come up against in life. For sure there are many other kinds of daily Bible reading materials we can all use to bring attention to Biblical truths for discussion.
I like it because it challenges some of the hard mindsets I come across here on CC as well as the ones I had in times past. Ideas on something as simple as drawing from Jesus for instance. How can that be wrong? Well, just read and see.
Welcome to CC sevenseas, I see you joined 2/16/17
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Those two guys are the only ones who believed God for the good He promised. And the rest of the Israelite's took up stones to stone them when they tried to encourage them all to move forward. Only those men stayed strong even in their 80s (!!!)
The rest didn't get to enter in because of unbelief. Just like today many believers won't enter into the rest Jesus provided because of unbelief.
S
bah humbug, right? LOL!
I was called a Joseph Prince believer in some thread by someone. I find alot of people are jumping to conclusions and seem predisposed to thinking you mean something other then what you wrote
I'm not following any person in particular, but it seems there are people riding shotgun to blast you if they think you are
very reactionary and frankly troublesome as well
thanks
Yesss it happens here on the Bible study forum a lot. Jumping the gun., jumping to conclusions about someone else based on the "key words" people have been taught to use for "screening" about others. I say "gack" to that 
Labels are easy for people and if they perceive another person using certain words too regularly like "healing" or "grace" or "tongues" or "Holy Spirit" or "miracles" or "rapture" some may get very guarded and even accusatory. It must come with the territory where lot's of people gather to share ideas it seems especially on a chat forum.
I take a lot of "guff" sort of speak for using this devotional here. Some don't like what they think Pastor Prince is saying so they ride shotgun LOL. But over the years certain devotionals have been my way of a daily Bible reading schedule and help. Used to use one all the time everyone liked called "Our Daily Bread" by Radio Bible class along with others at the same time.
Then went to a Bible called "The One Year Bible" and that had the Psalms and Proverbs at the bottom. Then I used one called "My Utmost For His Highest" by Oswald Chambers old and new version. Then got into one called "Streams In The Desert" by Mrs. Cowman. Different volumes and I've only read the one.
It seems to average out I was using each one for a 4-5yr running time over the years. Each one had insights from different believers that helped me learn so much. Now it just happens to be "Destined To Reign" It's a beautiful thing to open my Bible and one of these devotionals with a cup of hot coffee each morning and evening.
I'm not a "follower" of people or a person either and just love to read from those encouraging and insightful Christians who are gifted in teaching. God gave us the church some teachers and pastors for a reason. If some here don't like the pastors and teachers I like that's ok they don't have to read threads they don't like. Just like I don't read certain threads I don't agree with or like.
Takes time to find your place here on CC if you decide to stay and share things that have helped and blessed you. I find what I like and am sticking too it! Some like some don't. Looking forward to seeing you sharing on the threads and posts here too sevenseas!! Blessings!!! Joaniemarie
Labels are easy for people and if they perceive another person using certain words too regularly like "healing" or "grace" or "tongues" or "Holy Spirit" or "miracles" or "rapture" some may get very guarded and even accusatory. It must come with the territory where lot's of people gather to share ideas it seems especially on a chat forum.
I take a lot of "guff" sort of speak for using this devotional here. Some don't like what they think Pastor Prince is saying so they ride shotgun LOL. But over the years certain devotionals have been my way of a daily Bible reading schedule and help. Used to use one all the time everyone liked called "Our Daily Bread" by Radio Bible class along with others at the same time.
Then went to a Bible called "The One Year Bible" and that had the Psalms and Proverbs at the bottom. Then I used one called "My Utmost For His Highest" by Oswald Chambers old and new version. Then got into one called "Streams In The Desert" by Mrs. Cowman. Different volumes and I've only read the one.
It seems to average out I was using each one for a 4-5yr running time over the years. Each one had insights from different believers that helped me learn so much. Now it just happens to be "Destined To Reign" It's a beautiful thing to open my Bible and one of these devotionals with a cup of hot coffee each morning and evening.
I'm not a "follower" of people or a person either and just love to read from those encouraging and insightful Christians who are gifted in teaching. God gave us the church some teachers and pastors for a reason. If some here don't like the pastors and teachers I like that's ok they don't have to read threads they don't like. Just like I don't read certain threads I don't agree with or like.
Takes time to find your place here on CC if you decide to stay and share things that have helped and blessed you. I find what I like and am sticking too it! Some like some don't. Looking forward to seeing you sharing on the threads and posts here too sevenseas!! Blessings!!! Joaniemarie
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sadly, it's not just this forum
Christians seem to be the most judgmental people in the world at times
it's like they are relieved if they can find someone whose sin they think is worse then theirs
so many logs in the eyes it's a log jam, meaning no one is going anywhere that is involved in that kind of fault finding and judging hearts
I personally like Joyce Meyers who is another person that some derive great joy out of 'shooting' at, calling her word of faith and all kinds of things
I listen to her regularly and I have yet to hear her say something unbiblical, I think she may have changed her stance on some things. But I have had alot of teaching and other teachers so it's not like I only know what she teaches
I'm over on the thread about Joel Osteen's church and the vitriol out of some people is just sad
The other thing is that it seems very difficult for some to reply to the topic. Personal attacks seem very popular as well.
I've been on various Christian forums as I guess many have and it seems to be a place where people say things to each other they would never say in person.
I am familiar with the devotionals you mention and I actually do not care for Oswald Chambers but that is just me because I know many people really like that devotional. It would be ridiculous for me to rip it apart as so many have been blessed by it.
I think people are afraid their little worlds might turned upside down if they ever let in a little more light.
I don't like too much comfort and that might sound strange, but running water is the good water. Standing water breeds mosquitoes LOL!
Christians seem to be the most judgmental people in the world at times
it's like they are relieved if they can find someone whose sin they think is worse then theirs
so many logs in the eyes it's a log jam, meaning no one is going anywhere that is involved in that kind of fault finding and judging hearts
I personally like Joyce Meyers who is another person that some derive great joy out of 'shooting' at, calling her word of faith and all kinds of things
I listen to her regularly and I have yet to hear her say something unbiblical, I think she may have changed her stance on some things. But I have had alot of teaching and other teachers so it's not like I only know what she teaches
I'm over on the thread about Joel Osteen's church and the vitriol out of some people is just sad
The other thing is that it seems very difficult for some to reply to the topic. Personal attacks seem very popular as well.
I've been on various Christian forums as I guess many have and it seems to be a place where people say things to each other they would never say in person.
I am familiar with the devotionals you mention and I actually do not care for Oswald Chambers but that is just me because I know many people really like that devotional. It would be ridiculous for me to rip it apart as so many have been blessed by it.
I think people are afraid their little worlds might turned upside down if they ever let in a little more light.
I don't like too much comfort and that might sound strange, but running water is the good water. Standing water breeds mosquitoes LOL!
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You're a prime example of putting words in people's mouths Lynn. I read your long diary of life and you need to realize we ALL have a long life story Lynn. What can I say? Did you ask a question? I didn't see it. How can I answer for the rubber of your life meeting the road of your life? If you have a question for me go a head and ask it.
What you said about it being God's will for those Israelite's to go another 40yrs is just untrue. It is not God's will that we should perish but that we all should come to repentance. But because of free will., not all will come. But all are invited. God so loved the world. He loves sinners and made a way of escape for all. Jesus is the Way. While we were yet sinners Christ died for us.
Those Israelite's refused to believe so they didn't receive. They suffered for lack of believing. Just like many of us do today even under this new covenant of grace. Only we are not being punished, we are living with the fruit of unbelief and missing the promises that could have been ours the moment we believe.
I believe the same about healing and provisions. It is not God's will for us to be sick but many will be due to many factors. And He will deal with each one of them personally in our lives as we let Him. Just as He does for salvation., He has made a way and that way is Jesus. By His stripes we have been healed but we have yet to walk it out by faith in many many cases to see a healing.
The promises of God are yes and Amen. But many people just keep believing and saying God says no and no. Don't get angry at me for agreeing with the Bible when it says His promises are yes and Amen Lynn.
And when we believe Him for His promises He never fails to come through. But one thing He has required of us and that is "faith" What pleases God? Faith. Without Faith it is impossible to please God.
And then on top of that He GIVES us the gift of faith. He not only saves, He gives the faith to believe. He not only heals, but gives the faith to believe in healing. The weak link in the covenant is gone. Jesus has met all the requirements for man to stand in God's presence. But many will stand "a far off" based on unbelief.
How well we live is based on how much we believe Jesus for. I have been learning that we will truly get what we believe Him for because His promises are sure and paid for. We have the victory now we need to work from that place of victory. The Bible says we are more than conquerors IN Christ who loves us.
It is not His will that any should perish but that ALL WOULD COME TO REPENTANCE. Now take that further and that is how I endeavor to work out my own salvation. Working out what Jesus has already worked IN with all seriousness in matters of faith. It is called the obedience of faith. The just shall live by faith. That is how we are supposed to be thinking. Not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. All things are possible to those who believe. Jesus did it all.
[h=1]Hebrews 11:1Amplified Bible, Classic Edition (AMPC)[/h] 11 Now faith is the assurance (the confirmation, [SUP][a][/SUP]the title deed) of the things [we] hope for, being the proof of things [we] do not see and the conviction of their reality [faith perceiving as real fact what is not revealed to the senses].
I like Joyce Meyers too and have many of her CDs and DVDs. I learned about how fear is to be dealt with when I heard Joyce's teaching on the Battlefield of the Mind. Excellent book BTW.
And yes., the Holy Spirit gives rivers of living water flowing out of our bellies (our inner man). Same with blessings. We are to be channels of blessings so that they flow in and through us to others. Not stagnant where mosquitoes congregate and lay eggs. ewwww. Blessed to BE a blessing. He wants to bless His people but many do not believe that. The enemy has convinced many that Jesus is not come to give life and that more abundantly. It is the devil who kills steals and destroys. Not God. God is the God of life not death.
But many will not believe and get the whole thing mixed up calling good evil...., and evil good. And then wonder why God is doing this. When it is not God at all doing evil. God sent Jesus to make a way of escape from sin and death unto life and that more abundant. If we have seen Jesus we have seen the Father.
Keep on posting sevenseas.
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And this is why so few listen to your long rants:
1. You're too busy proving whatever.
2. You much prefer to put down anyone who might not agree with you 100% then to actually talk to them, but boy you sure are good dropping these little across the hull shots --
-- Yeesshhh seriously, some of you are so depressing. And even when there is better than good news to hear, many fight it tooth and nail.
-- I'm not depressed AND I haven't pounced on anyone. Plus, I don't have a chip on my shoulder either. Just came back to read some of the comments and made a few of my own. Not everyone here was negative. But usually there is a major rift whenever someone talks tooooooo much about the love of God. I think that is a problem. We should freely be able to discuss the love of Jesus without being identified with being a heretic.
That is my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
(BTW, heretic is your little woe-is-me word. Absolutely no one has called you a heretic.)
-- I don't understand why Christians like you Lynn (and there are a lot)
3. I asked the same question two ways -- in the beginning and then at the end. And yet, you were far busier patting someone on the back that agrees with you (and enjoys talking about everyone else's logs as much as you do), than answering it. You do this all the time. (Go back over how often you simply ignored questions from "Christians like you" just in this thread. Matter of fact, absolutely everyone -- new folks and old folks who said anything that didn't fit your narrative.)
4. You don't take any time to listen to those who disagree, because you're too busy proving how righteous you are, or yelling at people who don't measure up to your expectations.
Self-adulation. Yup. Pretty much what I have against these ditties. We don't really need to learn to be more like what we've always been.
1. You're too busy proving whatever.
2. You much prefer to put down anyone who might not agree with you 100% then to actually talk to them, but boy you sure are good dropping these little across the hull shots --
-- Yeesshhh seriously, some of you are so depressing. And even when there is better than good news to hear, many fight it tooth and nail.
-- I'm not depressed AND I haven't pounced on anyone. Plus, I don't have a chip on my shoulder either. Just came back to read some of the comments and made a few of my own. Not everyone here was negative. But usually there is a major rift whenever someone talks tooooooo much about the love of God. I think that is a problem. We should freely be able to discuss the love of Jesus without being identified with being a heretic.
That is my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
(BTW, heretic is your little woe-is-me word. Absolutely no one has called you a heretic.)
-- I don't understand why Christians like you Lynn (and there are a lot)
3. I asked the same question two ways -- in the beginning and then at the end. And yet, you were far busier patting someone on the back that agrees with you (and enjoys talking about everyone else's logs as much as you do), than answering it. You do this all the time. (Go back over how often you simply ignored questions from "Christians like you" just in this thread. Matter of fact, absolutely everyone -- new folks and old folks who said anything that didn't fit your narrative.)
4. You don't take any time to listen to those who disagree, because you're too busy proving how righteous you are, or yelling at people who don't measure up to your expectations.
Self-adulation. Yup. Pretty much what I have against these ditties. We don't really need to learn to be more like what we've always been.