There Is No God's Service In Killing People

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The OP is noble in essence, but impractical when evil exists. We have God's blessings to protect righteousness and innocence.
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it will always depend upon the circumstances and our obedience to what the Holy Spirit
tells us to do...
 
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As a Marine...we are trained in that area.....and will add....1,000,000 and 1 HAHA
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I am, me, the wife of our 'team', if some one ever tried to hurt my 'other-half-of-me', I become
a she-wolf, a banty-hen', a gator on top of her mound protecting her eggs, but, always,
first and for-most, a servant led by her Master-Jesus, obeying what He tells me to do
in each and every situation that may come our way...in other words, I am in submission to His Will,
always and forever, no matter the cost...
 

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but your saying you would kill him if there was no other choice however there is always a choice you could subdue him to where he cannot move or hurt anyone else for instance. if your capable of killing him then your capable of subduing him, the value of a human life even a wicked one is substantial for all we know this predator could end up being one of God's most mightiest warriors.

personally i could never take a life and i cannot fathom any reason to justify murder, killing to protect is still killing are you prepared to carry the blood on your hands for the rest of life? knowing that you took a life that could have been saved?
He draws the knife back to plunge it into his victim's heart...

Bang! He's dead. There was no alternative.
 
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He draws the knife back to plunge it into his victim's heart...

Bang! He's dead. There was no alternative.
We can also get into a whole new ballgame....in my state we have good Samaritan laws.....I can be criminally negligent and charged if I do not step in in such a situation...Does not the bible say to obey the laws of the land...cough cough....

Mine would be BANG, BANG center mass as in a double tap and if necessary....one in the brain pan.....!

No way I stand back and watch an innocent little girl or boy get raped and killed........I will gladly stand before God and answer to why I stepped in and took a life if need be....
 

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but your saying you would kill him if there was no other choice however there is always a choice you could subdue him to where he cannot move or hurt anyone else for instance. if your capable of killing him then your capable of subduing him, the value of a human life even a wicked one is substantial for all we know this predator could end up being one of God's most mightiest warriors.

personally i could never take a life and i cannot fathom any reason to justify murder, killing to protect is still killing are you prepared to carry the blood on your hands for the rest of life? knowing that you took a life that could have been saved?
1. The above statement is not at all true.

2. This whole thread has gotten really weird.
 

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We can also get into a whole new ballgame....in my state we have good Samaritan laws.....I can be criminally negligent and charged if I do not step in in such a situation...Does not the bible say to obey the laws of the land...cough cough....

Mine would be BANG, BANG center mass as in a double tap and if necessary....one in the brain pan.....!

No way I stand back and watch an innocent little girl or boy get raped and killed........I will gladly stand before God and answer to why I stepped in and took a life if need be....
Your 1st paragraph made me nod an affirmative, yes. Your 2nd paragraph made me lol with more affirmation. Your 3rd paragraph made me praise God for having brothers like you. God bless you, bro. Semper Fi (Navy Corpsman 4thFSSG).
 
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The war insanity was first introduced for justification by the heretic Augustine, taken form the pagan mind of Cicero in his 50BC writings....Later imported into the West Monster Confusions in the 17th century..Its the opposite of the commandments of Jesus...
 

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The war insanity was first introduced for justification by the heretic Augustine, taken form the pagan mind of Cicero in his 50BC writings....Later imported into the West Monster Confusions in the 17th century..Its the opposite of the commandments of Jesus...
Duly noted. If I ever see you being victimized I'm passing Go and headed straight for Dairy Queen. You want sprinkles on that?
 

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Acknowledging your shortcomings that you would kill is the first step in acknowledging your need of Him not to.

1 Corinthians 10:[SUP]12 [/SUP]Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.[SUP]13 [/SUP]There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

Just remember that Jesus came to save sinners, including the ones trying to kill you. Love your enemy to tell them the truth.

Psalm 11:5The Lord trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

Genesis 9:5.................and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.[SUP]6 [/SUP]Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.

Outside of serving the armed forces and outside the policing authorities, we need to trust Jesus Christ that He will not have us tempted beyond what we are able to provide the escape or even to lead evil in passing us by.

But you all should know that believers will be killed as a testimony of His love for their enemies.

We all know where we are going, right? So trust Him as your Good Shepherd today, because hatred and wrath is a work of the flesh, and you should not believe you can be at ease to sin in that manner for whatever earthly justification you feel.

We can imagine all kinds of possibilities that would and could make us kill, but can we hope in Him that it would not come to it? By his words, He says we can. So why brag about violence that we would do in protecting others when we should seek the praise of God in that we trust Him that we would never find ourselves in a situation that would provoke us to kill, but enabled by Him to give up our lives for sinners as He had done in the hopes that one day they may believe and be saved.

This is not something that is in our flesh to do. No. That is why we are to live this reconciled relationship with God through Jesus Christ as we trust Him as our Good Shepherd to help us walk us through this valley of death where we shall fear no evil, for He is with us.

Hebrews 13:1 Let brotherly love continue.[SUP]2 [/SUP]Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.[SUP]3 [/SUP]Remember them that are in bonds, as bound with them; and them which suffer adversity, as being yourselves also in the body.[SUP]4 [/SUP]Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.[SUP]5 [/SUP]Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.[SUP]6 [/SUP]So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me.

Romans 5:1Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:[SUP]2 [/SUP]By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.[SUP]3 [/SUP]And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;[SUP]4 [/SUP]And patience, experience; and experience, hope:[SUP]5 [/SUP]And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.[SUP]6 [/SUP]For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.[SUP]7 [/SUP]For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.[SUP]8 [/SUP]But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.[SUP]9 [/SUP]Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.[SUP]10 [/SUP]For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.[SUP]11 [/SUP]And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.

May we have Christ's love to desire that other sinners may receive the atonement as well by hearing the Good News to man.
 
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we, as 'soldiers' are often asked of our Saviour to do many things that
we would never have thought would be asked of us...
 

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Duly noted. If I ever see you being victimized I'm passing Go and headed straight for Dairy Queen. You want sprinkles on that?
I'll be going to 7/Eleven for a Slurpee. Never had one actually. I enjoy the various slushes at DQ. Thinking I need a soft-serve cone, vanilla, no sprinkles. Real men don't eat sprinkles, or at least not when anybody is watching.
 

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The war insanity was first introduced for justification by the heretic Augustine, taken form the pagan mind of Cicero in his 50BC writings....Later imported into the West Monster Confusions in the 17th century..Its the opposite of the commandments of Jesus...
Men have been killing each other in war and justifying it as long as man has been alive. It is not a recent concept at all.
 

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We can also get into a whole new ballgame....in my state we have good Samaritan laws.....I can be criminally negligent and charged if I do not step in in such a situation...Does not the bible say to obey the laws of the land...cough cough....

Mine would be BANG, BANG center mass as in a double tap and if necessary....one in the brain pan.....!

No way I stand back and watch an innocent little girl or boy get raped and killed........I will gladly stand before God and answer to why I stepped in and took a life if need be....
Lock and load...have to get a gun first...and ammo.
 

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I have plenty...you can use one of mine......plus thousands of rounds of ammo......<---X 80
My favorite weapon was my M16A1 that I utilized when I was serving with the 101st Airborne Division, put it on rock-in- roll and spray it downrange. The grenade launcher was amusing too. Also enjoyed the M72 Law. Blew off the top of a tank turret once.
 
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My favorite weapon was my M16A1 that I utilized when I was serving with the 101st Airborne Division, put it on rock-in- roll and spray it downrange. The grenade launcher was amusing too. Also enjoyed the M72 Law. Blew off the top of a tank turret once.
As a Marine we were the first to have the M16A2 which was semi auto and 3 round burst with a maximum effective range of 800 meters...I qualified at 200, 300 and 500 meters...we had the SAW (squad automatic weapon 5.56) had a 250 round box mag and would take a M-16 mag in the side as well...had the M203 grenade launcher and the TOW and Dragon missile systems...had the LAW as well......NOW...I have a M-4, Mini-14, Saiga 12, various hand guns, shot guns, 22 rifles, 30-30's etc.........and a LOT of AMMO

Kudos to the Screamin Eagle service......
 
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To glorify weapons in your pride is vile. Weapons are merely a tool to defend yourself or other people. They are not something to be glorified.
 
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To glorify weapons in your pride is vile. Weapons are merely a tool to defend yourself or other people. They are not something to be glorified.
Did you say something Jason.....nobody glorified anything pal...simply talking what we used when we served.....add something of value or ...............................
 

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As a Marine we were the first to have the M16A2 which was semi auto and 3 round burst with a maximum effective range of 800 meters...I qualified at 200, 300 and 500 meters...we had the SAW (squad automatic weapon 5.56) had a 250 round box mag and would take a M-16 mag in the side as well...had the M203 grenade launcher and the TOW and Dragon missile systems...had the LAW as well......NOW...I have a M-4, Mini-14, Saiga 12, various hand guns, shot guns, 22 rifles, 30-30's etc.........and a LOT of AMMO

Kudos to the Screamin Eagle service......
Semper Fi, brother. Rock on.
 
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Ok so if not a glorification and you are only talking factually about weapons you have used, and nothing that gives you any satisfaction about them, tell me, how many people have you murdered? Or is it much harder to say that in public?