Is it always like this here?

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In the BDF i mean. People calling each other liars and heretics? Where people seem to be more concerned with everybody else's salvation? As if they're "on a mission from God" to put someone in their place. Is that what the Christian walk means to people? An outward circumstance in relation to ourselves? Seems like so much of the world even acts that way. They just use a different language.
 

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People being disrespectful is par for the course, yes. Then they will blame you when they have twisted something you said and pretend it is your fault for their attitude toward you when they misrepresent what was said, and repeatedly refuse to acknowledge their error.
 
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People being disrespectful is par for the course, yes. Then they will blame you when they have twisted something you said and pretend it is your fault for their attitude toward you when they misrepresent what was said, and repeatedly refuse to acknowledge their error.
I think the thing I hate the most about "religion" is that people use it to excuse bad behavior.
 

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That's why I try to be careful about using the words "heretic & heretics" and the phrases "false teacher(s)/false prophet(s)".

Yes, teachers and leaders will be subject to greater judgment for their doctrines, but the flipside of that is anyone who accuses someone of being a heretic/false teacher had better be prepared to back up his/her accusations.

It's akin to the accuser(s) in an Isrealite capital case being the first to cast stones at the condemned person.
 
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There are lot's of self-proclaimed heretic hunters on the internet and at CC there is no shortage of theses types. To them everyone is a heretic - if you disagree with what they believe about a subject.

There are websites dedicated to the heretic Billy Graham, Billy Sunday, Charles Spurgeon, Charles Stanley, D.L. Moody, C.S. Lewis, John McArthur, Paul Washer, Joseph Prince, Dr. Michael Brown, Justin Peters, Bill Johnson, Martin Luther, John Calvin, Andrew Wommack...etc..basically anyone who is known has a website dedicated to their "heresies".

There are even websites dedicated to the heretic apostle Paul because his epistles "conflict" with some of Jesus' words.

Basically these self-proclaimed heretic hunters have a beef about some thing with what someone else believes and so they are now "heretics".

Their motto is: "If people don't believe some scriptures in the way that "they"do - they are heretics and they try to prove it with "their" version of what the scriptures say.."
This is not what we were taught in "my" church or in our whole church tradition.

It's the nature of the beast. Martin Luther was a heretic to the catholic church at the time because for 1100 years prior to Luther they had always "believed" the same way.

Where these types cross the line is when they turn a disagreement that they have with someone doctrinally on a secondary issue and turn it into "So and so is a false teacher and they are in error and a heretic/satanist/controlled by a demon" type stuff.
 
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Well there are people in the body of christ who shows more contempt for others instead of compassion as the lord wants us to. Some people are unable to accept correction & reprove even if it's out of love.They will only accept what they believe as truth and lash out at people who disagree. Meanwhile the scriptures states lean not on your own understanding but lean on God. It's better not to get into it with those who constantly call others "liars and heretics" & let God deal with them.
 
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In comparison to human growth, sometimes you have to realize that teenagers go through a snotty, arrogant know-it-all phase. You just try to bear with them and not throttle them, knowing it's just an ugly stage until some humilities temper them. Yes, some can stay in that stage way past when you think they should but you can't throttle them. It is unlawful to do so. :)
 
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And the lesson in it is there for the older ones too, and I can't remember the mans name who put it well but he said, how we treat someone at their worst shows how well love is operating in us.
 
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And the lesson in it is there for the older ones too, and I can't remember the mans name who put it well but he said, how we treat someone at their worst shows how well love is operating in us.
There are also immature older adults as well whereas when they are corrected on something they get offended i've seen it.
 

blue_ladybug

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Well I've seen many of the younger adults (not the teens) get offended as well, so there ya go... :)
 

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In comparison to human growth, sometimes you have to realize that teenagers go through a snotty, arrogant know-it-all phase. You just try to bear with them and not throttle them, knowing it's just an ugly stage until some humilities temper them. Yes, some can stay in that stage way past when you think they should but you can't throttle them. It is unlawful to do so. :)
There sure are a lot of teenagers here :rolleyes:

The problem was really highlighted the other day when a newbie female asked for men to PM her so she could discuss her virginity with them. A man chimed in first saying it was not a good idea to ask for PMs from men. A woman then said the same thing and was criticized by another man for her response. I defended the woman's response and then the two of us women were under attack for pages from two men who continually misrepresented what was said and constantly found fault with what we were saying while complaining about fault finding. One guy wanted me to admit I was wrong when I was not and then refused to admit he was wrong when he was. Then other people weighed in and blamed the women for the thread being derailed, one person even saying that if you have a problem with something someone says, to PM them. Do you think I received a PM from that person? There they were publicly castigating me saying I should have PMed and they did not even follow their own advice.
 
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And the lesson in it is there for the older ones too, and I can't remember the mans name who put it well but he said, how we treat someone at their worst shows how well love is operating in us.
There are lines in life that get crossed and leaves room for zero reasonable dialogue. The status quo is how terrible physical abuse is....people go to jail for it. physical abuse is obviously bad....but an argument can be made that spiritual abuse is even worse.
 

blue_ladybug

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It's not only in the BDF, Sirk.. The singles forum is just as bad, if not worse than the BDF.
 
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So my question is I guess....what are ways that people abuse each others humanness?
 
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In comparison to human growth, sometimes you have to realize that teenagers go through a snotty, arrogant know-it-all phase. You just try to bear with them and not throttle them, knowing it's just an ugly stage until some humilities temper them. Yes, some can stay in that stage way past when you think they should but you can't throttle them. It is unlawful to do so. :)
Amen...a sign of being a spiritual baby Christian is in their behavior towards others in the body of Christ.

I have said this many times that we can be a Christian for 50 years, pastor a church for 40 years, read Greek and Hebrew, have memorized 1/2 of the New Testament, pray in tongues for 5 hours/day, go to church every time the doors are open - but these are not signs of maturity in Christ.

( They are good things within themselves but just not signs of being grown up in the Lord )

The sign of being a spiritual baby as Peter shows us is in slandering others in the body of Christ and being full of malice and deceit and this is hypocrisy.

Say something that "conflicts" with their religious beliefs and church teachings and they will call you names and deceitfully slander you and do it under the disguise of "defending the faith" but in reality - they are just "defending their church tradition and teachings" - which may or not be entirely accurate.

They wanted to kill Martin Luther when he went against the "established church beliefs" of his day when he said - "The just shall live by faith". This is the fruit of a religious spirit that has darkened our minds.

They will call you names and attempt to "lord it over your faith" by de-meaning you and insulting you. It's despicable behavior but it is the flesh in action.

These behaviors are no different then those that say it's ok to live a homosexual lifestyle. They are all in the same lists as works of the flesh.

1 Peter 2:1-2 (NASB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] Therefore, putting aside all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander,

[SUP]2 [/SUP] like newborn babies, long for the pure milk of the word, so that by it you may grow in respect to salvation,




 
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There sure are a lot of teenagers here :rolleyes:

The problem was really highlighted the other day when a newbie female asked for men to PM her so she could discuss her virginity with them. A man chimed in first saying it was not a good idea to ask for PMs from men. A woman then said the same thing and was criticized by another man for her response. I defended the woman's response and then the two of us women were under attack for pages from two men who continually misrepresented what was said and constantly found fault with what we were saying while complaining about fault finding. One guy wanted me to admit I was wrong when I was not and then refused to admit he was wrong when he was. Then other people weighed in and blamed the women for the thread being derailed, one person even saying that if you have a problem with something someone says, to PM them. Do you think I received a PM from that person? There they were publicly castigating me saying I should have PMed and they did not even follow their own advice.
Oh lol! Sounds like...disorderly conduct as relates to tongues...:D
The best you can do is make sure you rule your own and don't let it pull you under!
 

blue_ladybug

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Calling them names, making fun of them.. Acting like they know what the other person is doing, saying, feeling or going through. Dictating what they want other people to do, and then not even do it themselves..


So my question is I guess....what are ways that people abuse each others humanness?
 

Magenta

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There are lines in life that get crossed and leaves room for zero reasonable dialogue. The status quo is how terrible physical abuse is....people go to jail for it. physical abuse is obviously bad....but an argument can be made that spiritual abuse is even worse.
Verbal abuse can be criminal, also.
 

Magenta

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Oh lol! Sounds like...disorderly conduct as relates to tongues...:D
The best you can do is make sure you rule your own and don't let it pull you under!
Amen, sister. One of the people involved still refuses to admit to me that he was in error in any way, even after falsely accusing me of a number of things. He simply repeatedly refuses to acknowledge his error.