Who is the tree?

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Mar 28, 2016
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I never saw a vine with branches...

The tree is the tree of life. We are hidden in God through Jesus Christ. The Vine grows up and securely around us keeping us safely in Him.

This was the picture He gave me....I'm not the only one who has had this vision. Another saw fruit and flowers all blooming out from the branches...

The poem? We are the sprouts of the tree...exactly like Jesus....and there are coming those who have been hidden in Him...as an army rising.
(sorry in advance for the rambling.)

Yes, without parables Christ spoke not. It’s what parables do, hide the spiritual substance not seen. The roots hid from those not given the faith of Christ by which they could believe God..

It is the incorruptible seed of Christ by which the spouts that break the surface are made of.

They are described as born again seeing the seed must fall into the ground and what comes up is a new creation. That seed must re-sprout, after the spiritual seed, Christ.

1Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain: But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body. 1Co 15:35

That seed is described as the generation of Christ in the Mathew 1 genealogy, ending with the birth of Christ.

Interestingly using Joshua to represent Christ .He is shown as not departing out of the tabernacle. (the presence of God) Joshua meaning savior as the son of Nun. The word Nun a... primitive “root”; to “resprout”, i.e. Propagate by shoots; figuratively, to be perpetual -- be continued.(Strong’s lexicon)

Exo 33:11 And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle.

It would seem it the spiritual life always goes to that not seen(roots) not the branches seen .
The faith principle.as it is written

2Co 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

A few examples.

2Kings 19:30 And the remnant that is escaped of the house of Judah shall yet again take root downward, and bear fruit upward.

Proverbs 12:3 A man shall not be established by wickedness: but the root of the righteous shall not be moved.

Proverbs 12:12 The wicked desireth the net of evil men: but the root of the righteous yieldeth fruit

(Christ yields the fruit.)

Hosea 9:16 Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay “even the beloved fruit of their womb”.

Matthew 13:6 And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away.

Mark 4:17 And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended.

Romans 11:16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.

Romans 11:18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Isaiah 53:2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. (Keeping the faith principle)

Because we have the complete genealogy of Christ seed in Mathew 1. We can understand why the nation of Israel was no longer needed in types and shadows.The time of reformation had come the new government was restored to an earlier time before the Kings (outward representative) .to the time of the Judges when men walked by faith(not seen) with God reigning from heaven as King of kings and Lord of lords. They had rejected him as King refusing to worship God by faith, the unseen root, because of the jealousy of the Pagan nations around them .God gave them over temporally to do what they should not of. Christ restored that so that men would walk by faith the unseen when he said; it is finished.

And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet. And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever. And his disciples heard it. Mar 11:13
 

Magenta

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stonesoffire

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Nov 24, 2013
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#84
(sorry in advance for the rambling.)

Yes, without parables Christ spoke not. It’s what parables do, hide the spiritual substance not seen. The roots hid from those not given the faith of Christ by which they could believe God..

It is the incorruptible seed of Christ by which the spouts that break the surface are made of.

They are described as born again seeing the seed must fall into the ground and what comes up is a new creation. That seed must re-sprout, after the spiritual seed, Christ.

1Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain: But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body. 1Co 15:35

That seed is described as the generation of Christ in the Mathew 1 genealogy, ending with the birth of Christ.

Interestingly using Joshua to represent Christ .He is shown as not departing out of the tabernacle. (the presence of God) Joshua meaning savior as the son of Nun. The word Nun a... primitive “root”; to “resprout”, i.e. Propagate by shoots; figuratively, to be perpetual -- be continued.(Strong’s lexicon)

Exo 33:11 And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle.

It would seem it the spiritual life always goes to that not seen(roots) not the branches seen .
The faith principle.as it is written

2Co 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

A few examples.

2Kings 19:30 And the remnant that is escaped of the house of Judah shall yet again take root downward, and bear fruit upward.

Proverbs 12:3 A man shall not be established by wickedness: but the root of the righteous shall not be moved.

Proverbs 12:12 The wicked desireth the net of evil men: but the root of the righteous yieldeth fruit

(Christ yields the fruit.)

Hosea 9:16 Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay “even the beloved fruit of their womb”.

Matthew 13:6 And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away.

Mark 4:17 And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended.

Romans 11:16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.

Romans 11:18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Isaiah 53:2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. (Keeping the faith principle)

Because we have the complete genealogy of Christ seed in Mathew 1. We can understand why the nation of Israel was no longer needed in types and shadows.The time of reformation had come the new government was restored to an earlier time before the Kings (outward representative) .to the time of the Judges when men walked by faith(not seen) with God reigning from heaven as King of kings and Lord of lords. They had rejected him as King refusing to worship God by faith, the unseen root, because of the jealousy of the Pagan nations around them .God gave them over temporally to do what they should not of. Christ restored that so that men would walk by faith the unseen when he said; it is finished.

And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet. And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever. And his disciples heard it. Mar 11:13
Thank you!!! You see it. Yes, its by propagation...the shoots or the sprouts are us. :eek: