Christians and Cussing

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like-minded66

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This is something that I have been thinking about for a while now and I wanted to get other Christian's perspectives.

First off, I didn't use to use ANY offensive language at all. But now occasionally I'll say like the "H" word or "D" word (rhymes with ham) and lesser offensive words. I still do not and can not use really profane language (I'm sure you know what they are)...I personally don't think they need to be said, and feel that a lot of people in the world say it for emphasis, shock value or its just culturally acceptable. I think people can try to come up with other more intelligible words to use for emphasis if they need to, that's just my opinion.

I'm bringing this up because its something I've noticed that's becoming a norm amongst Christians and in the secular world, like i.e. the work place.

What are your views on this? Do you feel pressure to cuss at your workplace like everyone else? Do you feel pressure to cuss a little bit if other Christian's are? Is it ok, right, wrong to use the lesser offensive words?

Let me know your thoughts. Please lets have a civil discussion and no arguing. I really want to get you alls perspectives.
 
like-minded66

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Wanted to share this:
Some Christians point to Philippians 3:8 to show that Paul cussed by using the word "dung" (or the cuss word that rhymes with 'pit').

Although this word is ambiguous, meaning excrement cast from the body or refuse (scraps) from the table thrown to the dogs, Paul was likely using the latter. Here is an excerpt from a commentary:
"Judaizers counted gentile Christians as dogs, while they themselves were seated at God’s banquet. The apostle, reversing the image, counts the Judaistic ordinances as refuse upon which their advocates feed."
 
like-minded66

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With the matter of cussing or offensive language, Romans ch. 14 is a good chapter that I govern myself with. So, if a Christian finds my usage of the H word or D word offensive, or anything that they deem offensive for that matter, then I won't do it or say it around him/her.

Another thought:
since it's more commonplace to cuss today, do you find that you make people in the world uncomfortable since you don't cuss? When does 'be in the world but not of the world' and 'become all things to all men so that you can win some' fit in this matter? And what is going too far? In my opinion and experience, not having a little 'culturally coarse' language actually works against my witness in certain secular arenas because I'm not bonding with them where they are at, if that makes sense. I think people have a really bad view of Christianity and Christians for a lot of the wrong reasons. They don't want to hear what you have to say about your faith or know how you live until you can relate to them on some level and show that you're human.
 
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Hell and Damn are in the bible........
 
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like-minded66 said:
This is something that I have been thinking about for a while now and I wanted to get other Christian's perspectives.

First off, I didn't use to use ANY offensive language at all. But now occasionally I'll say like the "H" word or "D" word (rhymes with ham) and lesser offensive words. I still do not and can not use really profane language (I'm sure you know what they are)...I personally don't think they need to be said, and feel that a lot of people in the world say it for emphasis, shock value or its just culturally acceptable. I think people can try to come up with other more intelligible words to use for emphasis if they need to, that's just my opinion.

I'm bringing this up because its something I've noticed that's becoming a norm amongst Christians and in the secular world, like i.e. the work place.

What are your views on this? Do you feel pressure to cuss at your workplace like everyone else? Do you feel pressure to cuss a little bit if other Christian's are? Is it ok, right, wrong to use the lesser offensive words?

Let me know your thoughts. Please lets have a civil discussion and no arguing. I really want to get you alls perspectives.
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Brother here's what Jesus said in Matthew15:11 "it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.”

The words damn and hell are in the Bible if you use the KJV it has bastard, ass and pissith so if the Spirit is convicting you do as He is leading you to do. I remember when my family first got saved my uncle said "S#!t" and I freaked out, but he was okay with it and I realized that it's just another word for poop. I don't use it so I don't judge people that do because that's the Ho;y Spirit's ministry not mine.

You seem to have the right heart, so stick with the Spirit and you'll be fine. Think about your testimony at work if there are people there that think those words are out of bounds for a Christian, then you should not use them. I've done lots of stupid stuff in my walk with the Lord and I always wonder what would of happened if I would of never stumbled in my walk. All your old friends are not very forgiving when it come to us stumbling, so try to walk in the Spirit and you will fulfill the Law of liberty in our lives.

Romans 8:1-8 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death. 3 For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. 5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit. 6 For to set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace. 7 For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot. 8 Those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
 
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like-minded66 said:
This is something that I have been thinking about for a while now and I wanted to get other Christian's perspectives.

First off, I didn't use to use ANY offensive language at all. But now occasionally I'll say like the "H" word or "D" word (rhymes with ham) and lesser offensive words. I still do not and can not use really profane language (I'm sure you know what they are)...I personally don't think they need to be said, and feel that a lot of people in the world say it for emphasis, shock value or its just culturally acceptable. I think people can try to come up with other more intelligible words to use for emphasis if they need to, that's just my opinion.

I'm bringing this up because its something I've noticed that's becoming a norm amongst Christians and in the secular world, like i.e. the work place.

What are your views on this? Do you feel pressure to cuss at your workplace like everyone else? Do you feel pressure to cuss a little bit if other Christian's are? Is it ok, right, wrong to use the lesser offensive words?

Let me know your thoughts. Please lets have a civil discussion and no arguing. I really want to get you alls perspectives.
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I have alot of experience with cussin', and i think mostly at least for me, it was because i grew up around it, it became a normal part of my venacular. never have said G.D. other than that ive probably said every cuss word Known to man. in my late twenties it began to ride on my conscience and oi became aware that i had read the verses about using language that is unwholesome, telling vulgar jokes and things like that, were actually in the bible i had read 30 times over. it was almost like i had never realized they were there.

so for me over the last ten years or so, through becoming aware that they were improper for Gods people, through setting the mind to accept that, through prayer, i cant remember the last timei let one fly. i used to mess up in situations when id hit my finger with a hammer at work, or someone would cut me off in traffic. I find now days that doesnt happen even when im not paying attention. i guess what im saying is for me it was a habit more than anything, but i sure feel alot more polite, and clean nowdays, though my "cussin" is more comical now with a seldom word like " dog onit" or "shoot fire" er sumthin......But its a victory through Gods Word for sure and i feel better about my lanuage now having repented through the awareness that if i wouldnt say something in Gods presence, i shouldnt say it, because Hes with me according to the Lord.
 
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If you are asking about this, your conscience is probably telling you something and you obviously are not sure (ie. you doubt) about it.

Apply the rule Paul gave in his letters - do not do what you are not certain about, its a sin.

"But whoever has doubts is condemned if they eat, because their eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin."
R 14:23
 
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Hell and Damn are in the bible........
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So are crap, piss, and used tampax. (Okay, so the last word wasn't invented yet, but "dirty rags" is menstruation cloth.)



I really think all these words have become the Christian culture short-list.

We still know know we're supposed to keep the law, but we can't, so we short-listed the law into stuff we can manage. "I can't stop calling my brother a fool, but at least I don't say H-E-double-hockey-sticks, so you know I'm holy" kind of thing.

Matter of fact, even King James did this. That's when "hell" left the Bible.

In truth, the only real curse words are the ones that take the Lord's name in vain, or when we try to curse a person.

The rest? Just modern PCism to wear the mask of "I'm a Christian" to hide what's going on in our minds. It's crude, maybe. It's not cursing. And I, for one, wish Christians would just give up wearing the mask. Too many think lack of "fowl language" is a sign of superiority, not so much a real sign of God's change in us.
 
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I think that saying that the words are in the bible is a childish excuse. Everyone knows what context is.
The word whore is the bible as well ... doesn't mean it's OK to call someone one ;)

I do sometimes curse, doesn't mean I think it's a good / ok think though.
...and if I hear someone curse a lot (like in half their sentences), I am incapable of taking them seriously.
We are (hopefully) reasonably smart creatures after all, we should be able to use proper words to explain our feelings without resorting to profanity
 
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wwjd_kilden said:
I think that saying that the words are in the bible is a childish excuse. Everyone knows what context is.
The word whore is the bible as well ... doesn't mean it's OK to call someone one ;)

I do sometimes curse, doesn't mean I think it's a good / ok think though.
...and if I hear someone curse a lot (like in half their sentences), I am incapable of taking them seriously.
We are (hopefully) reasonably smart creatures after all, we should be able to use proper words to explain our feelings without resorting to profanity
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Wow, how can you have 35,000 posts? You must be here for whole your life! :)
 
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I disagree with the idea that not cursing damages your witness. We are to be a peculiar people- set apart. The world does not want "more of the same". They want something different.

You can be all things to all people without cussing. We're all human and have human problems, desires, and needs.

This wasn't mentioned, yet, but cursing is unladylike and ungentlemanly. It is coarse. Who wants to be coarse? Being refined should be the goal of everyone, especially in this coarse society.

James 3 talks about how powerful our words are. James 3:6-11 "And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of Hell."

"But the tongue can no man tame: it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison. Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God."

"Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things out not to be. Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter?"

I try not to curse, but slip every so often. I am going to try better in the future, to be a good witness and a lady.
 
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Ephesians 4:29 - Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word as is good for edification according to the need of the moment, so that it will give grace to those who hear. 30 Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. 31 Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice. 32 Be kind to one another, tender-hearted, forgiving each other, just as God in Christ also has forgiven you.

I recently had to leave a different Bible discussion forum because bitterness, anger, slander and malice (which offended me more than if those people used cuss words) ran rampant on that website. :eek:
 
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like-minded66 said:
This is something that I have been thinking about for a while now and I wanted to get other Christian's perspectives.

First off, I didn't use to use ANY offensive language at all. But now occasionally I'll say like the "H" word or "D" word (rhymes with ham) and lesser offensive words. I still do not and can not use really profane language (I'm sure you know what they are)...I personally don't think they need to be said, and feel that a lot of people in the world say it for emphasis, shock value or its just culturally acceptable. I think people can try to come up with other more intelligible words to use for emphasis if they need to, that's just my opinion.

I'm bringing this up because its something I've noticed that's becoming a norm amongst Christians and in the secular world, like i.e. the work place.

What are your views on this? Do you feel pressure to cuss at your workplace like everyone else? Do you feel pressure to cuss a little bit if other Christian's are? Is it ok, right, wrong to use the lesser offensive words?

Let me know your thoughts. Please lets have a civil discussion and no arguing. I really want to get you alls perspectives.
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no one has been able to tame the tounge cussing is no diffrent to claiming braggers rights.....
 
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"Here we are again, God, hoping that you will lead us to yet, another, list of "SPECIFICS" of Yea or Nay for us to read and follow, word for word. (If Jesus were still walking with us, I could see Him shaking His head in wonderment at how absolutely thick we can be. And He would still be looking at us, wondering, "How long is it going to take you guys?"
 
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If you are a Christian and decide to do a little cussing in order to fit in then you can forget your testimony because you blew it. I worked on this construction site, and the first day these two guys were cussing each other out big time. In a short time it seemed most of the fellows knew I was a Christian. Anyway one of the fellows doing the cussing worked with me one day and he confided in me that he was a Christian like me(that was his words), but that he just did the cussing to keep the other guys off his back. Folks, we don't do it that way.
 
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samuel23 said:
If you are a Christian and decide to do a little cussing in order to fit in then you can forget your testimony because you blew it. I worked on this construction site, and the first day these two guys were cussing each other out big time. In a short time it seemed most of the fellows knew I was a Christian. Anyway one of the fellows doing the cussing worked with me one day and he confided in me that he was a Christian like me(that was his words), but that he just did the cussing to keep the other guys off his back. Folks, we don't do it that way.
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I was in the Marines from 1964 thru 1969 and noticed that a lot of Marines conversation was filled with profanity... When I got back to civilian life I found out that it was no different in the outside world even being raised in a Christian home... It is no different now and it daily gets worse... I'm retired now and my wife and I are involved in our church and our Christian friends... We learn from scripture that words are powerful weapons and they can either heal or kill... I have know this for along time as I'm sure you have too... But take a little time and look at this video from you-tube. it is only 3 and a half minutes long... This scientist did an experiment using words with water... As you know our bodies are made up of water in fact at the end of the video say 60% water... So how do words like love and kill effect the water in our bodies?... You may be surprised, because I know I was... K. James


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIOx7i7MkY8
 
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Well we have to deal with context, damn and hell are used in the Bible but not the way people use it today as a curse word. The Bible says we will be judged by every idle word we speak,Id think that takes in more than just cussing. Eph. talks about unwholesome talk. So when we do these things it hurts our witness with others and these verses have been speaking to me lately and what is our witness to others if we talk the same as the world does? So we need to try and talk the way Jesus talked and Im pretty sure He would not use a lot of common words we use today. The tongue is the hardest thing to control. But the fruit of the spirit is self control and we all need to work on that,not one of us is perfect yet.

Quote "Too many think lack of "fowl language" is a sign of superiority, not so much a real sign of God's change in us."

No lack of fowl language has nothing to do with superiority, it has to do with the fruit of the spirit,having self control,which we all need to work on,everyone.
 
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like-minded66 said:
With the matter of cussing or offensive language, Romans ch. 14 is a good chapter that I govern myself with. So, if a Christian finds my usage of the H word or D word offensive, or anything that they deem offensive for that matter, then I won't do it or say it around him/her.

Another thought:
since it's more commonplace to cuss today, do you find that you make people in the world uncomfortable since you don't cuss? When does 'be in the world but not of the world' and 'become all things to all men so that you can win some' fit in this matter? And what is going too far? In my opinion and experience, not having a little 'culturally coarse' language actually works against my witness in certain secular arenas because I'm not bonding with them where they are at, if that makes sense. I think people have a really bad view of Christianity and Christians for a lot of the wrong reasons. They don't want to hear what you have to say about your faith or know how you live until you can relate to them on some level and show that you're human.
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I think the idea is to make people uncomfortable. People complacent in their sins will never be saved. If someone feels uncomfortable around you because they sense you are different, and they don't know why- and they wish they had this difference, then this person is open to the gospel. A lot of times people will think Christians are hypocrites if they act like the world. Paul never made anyone feel comfortable- that's why everywhere he preached a group wanted to kill him.
 
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