Christ in you, The Hope of Glory

[followjesus]

colossians 1:2-3 "To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you,


Colossians 1:12-13 "Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins"


colossians 1:26-28 "Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus"




John 14:15-17 "If ye love me, keep my commandments. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you."


v 20 "At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you."


v 23-24 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.


john 6:63 "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."


Romans 8:9-11 "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.


john 15:7-10 "If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples. As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love."




john 5:26-27 "For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man"


john 6:57 "As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.


John 17: 20-24 "Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.


ephesians 1:17-21 "That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him: The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:


ephesians 1:3-6 "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved."


ephesians 2:6-7 "And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus."


sort of the reason we need to understand the exaltation of Jesus Christ, The Son Of God. my last op may help understand more of this One. God bless you, hope you are able to find some value or confirmation. if you want to argue, you'll have to do it with others, want to discuss , add to or share something, always Welcome and appreciated.

Our behavior towards other people, is no ones blame but Our own.

 

[followjesus]

Jesus Christ the Lord teaching Prayer to Gods children.

mark 11:24:26 "Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them. 25And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.26But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses."

John 15:7-11 "If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.8Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples. 9As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. 10If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.11These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.

Jesus the Son of God praying...

John 11:41-42 "Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me. 42And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me."

Luke 23:33- 35 ".....they crucified him, and the malefactors, one on the right hand, and the other on the left. 34Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots. 35And the people stood beholding. And the rulers also with them derided him, saying, He saved others; let him save himself, if he be Christ, the chosen of God."

Jesus Christ the Lord teaching prayer to Gods Children.....matthew 7:8-15 "Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.
9After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.10Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.11Give us this day our daily bread.12And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen. 14For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: 15But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."


Jesus the Son of God prayingLuke 22:40-46 "And when he was at the place, he said unto them, Pray that ye enter not into temptation. 41And he was withdrawn from them about a stone's cast, and kneeled down, and prayed, 42Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done. 43And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him. 44And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground. 45And when he rose up from prayer, and was come to his disciples, he found them sleeping for sorrow, 46And said unto them, Why sleep ye? rise and pray, lest ye enter into temptation."


Jesus Son of God teaching about prayer
john 16:23-24 "And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you. 24Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full."

the name of Gods Son Jesus. the name of His Son in you.

Luke 9:32-35 "But Peter and they that were with him were heavy with sleep: and when they were awake, they saw his glory, and the two men that stood with him. 33And it came to pass, as they departed from him, Peter said unto Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias: not knowing what he said. 34While he thus spake, there came a cloud, and overshadowed them: and they feared as they entered into the cloud. 35And there came a voice out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.

john 3:16-18 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

john 1:12-14 "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.[FONT=Arimo, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

john 17:22-23 "[/FONT]And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: 23I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

God Hears you when you pray because of JESUS His Only begotten Son who has given you the same relationship to God as He had. there is Power in the name of Jesus, it is the power of God to man.

 

[graceNpeace]

The Son of God who isn't God?
Boy, more heresy from the factory!

I do think it is time for a message to the moderators.

 

[beta]

Jesus Christ the Lord teaching Prayer to Gods children.

mark 11:24:26 "Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them. 25And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.26But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses."

John 15:7-11 "If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.8Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples. 9As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. 10If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.11These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.

Jesus the Son of God praying...

John 11:41-42 "Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me. 42And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me."

Luke 23:33- 35 ".....they crucified him, and the malefactors, one on the right hand, and the other on the left. 34Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots. 35And the people stood beholding. And the rulers also with them derided him, saying, He saved others; let him save himself, if he be Christ, the chosen of God."

Jesus Christ the Lord teaching prayer to Gods Children.....matthew 7:8-15 "Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.
9After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.10Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.11Give us this day our daily bread.12And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen. 14For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: 15But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."


Jesus the Son of God prayingLuke 22:40-46 "And when he was at the place, he said unto them, Pray that ye enter not into temptation. 41And he was withdrawn from them about a stone's cast, and kneeled down, and prayed, 42Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done. 43And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him. 44And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground. 45And when he rose up from prayer, and was come to his disciples, he found them sleeping for sorrow, 46And said unto them, Why sleep ye? rise and pray, lest ye enter into temptation."


Jesus Son of God teaching about prayer
john 16:23-24 "And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you. 24Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full."

the name of Gods Son Jesus. the name of His Son in you.

Luke 9:32-35 "But Peter and they that were with him were heavy with sleep: and when they were awake, they saw his glory, and the two men that stood with him. 33And it came to pass, as they departed from him, Peter said unto Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias: not knowing what he said. 34While he thus spake, there came a cloud, and overshadowed them: and they feared as they entered into the cloud. 35And there came a voice out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.

john 3:16-18 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

john 1:12-14 "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

john 17:22-23 "And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: 23I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

God Hears you when you pray because of JESUS His Only begotten Son who has given you the same relationship to God as He had. there is Power in the name of Jesus, it is the power of God to man.

ALL beautiful and awesome scriptures - thank you so much for sharing !

 

[graceNpeace]

ALL beautiful and awesome scriptures - thank you so much for sharing !

Sadly all hopelessly out of context, but never mind, that matters not...

 

[followjesus]

ALL beautiful and awesome scriptures - thank you so much for sharing !

yeah i feel as if so many havent realized the relationship we truly Have to God. Jesus was teaching things never before taught in scripture, teaching that God is Our Heavenly Father and to pray to Him that way, Knowing those who are in the beloved Son have close relationship to God Our Father, made so because Jesus His Son is our Hope, Our Savior. alot seem to not really grasp that Jesus The Son of God is who gives us the right to call God Our Father, and the understanding that He is present with those who come through Jesus, and truly Hear our prayers. we should believe and learn from Jesus and the Gospel of the Kingdom of God spoken By His Son Jesus Christ, that is the way of Gods Children.

God bless sister

 

[beta]

yeah i feel as if so many havent realized the relationship we truly Have to God. Jesus was teaching things never before taught in scripture, teaching that God is Our Heavenly Father and to pray to Him that way, Knowing those who are in the beloved Son have close relationship to God Our Father, made so because Jesus His Son is our Hope, Our Savior. alot seem to not really grasp that Jesus The Son of God is who gives us the right to call God Our Father, and the understanding that He is present with those who come through Jesus, and truly Hear our prayers. we should believe and learn from Jesus and the Gospel of the Kingdom of God spoken By His Son Jesus Christ, that is the way of Gods Children.

God bless sister

Yes, it is scriptural that the only way to the Father is though His son Jesus Christ. But that can not happen until they first come to Christ..through the law ?
But since Christians never had the law how can that help them ? or if they know it but reject it ?
FAITH would seem the answer and starts a whole new ballgame even more complicated than law...which at least told people what to do or not to do...if only they were obedient.
On the other hand...the mind of natural/carnal man is antagonistic toward God and can not submit and is at best a 'hotbed of imagination...so not much hope of reaching Christ there...hence the confusion in christianity. Are there any answers - starting from scratch ? ( I am keen on foundation)

 

[CherieR]

I especially like John 14:23-24. I like that God makes his home in me. Ginny Owens sings a good song called Home in Me that fits these verses.

<span style="color:#800080;">[video]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IvBfDYHieAA[/video]

 

[CherieR]

The Son of God who isn't God?
Boy, more heresy from the factory!

I do think it is time for a message to the moderators.

I don't see anything wrong with followjesus stating what he believes and then backing up with scripture. I disagree with his conclusion about Jesus but I believe he should have a right to free speech. I believe for instance that if an atheist came on this site, he/she should be able to share their own beliefs about God and the bible and then we could have a good debate and perhaps lead someone to Jesus. I believe that everyone should be able to share their beliefs whatever denomination they come from or whatever religion they adhere to on this site. If we don't judge them but rather love them, they will feel welcome on this site and might even accept Jesus as Savior and Lord and be saved!

 

[Angela53510]

I don't see anything wrong with followjesus stating what he believes and then backing up with scripture. I disagree with his conclusion about Jesus but I believe he should have a right to free speech. I believe for instance that if an atheist came on this site, he/she should be able to share their own beliefs about God and the bible and then we could have a good debate and perhaps lead someone to Jesus. I believe that everyone should be able to share their beliefs whatever denomination they come from or whatever religion they adhere to on this site. If we don't judge them but rather love them, they will feel welcome on this site and might even accept Jesus as Savior and Lord and be saved!

You seem to have forgotten that this is a Christian Forum. If atheists and heretics want to come in here, constantly post lies about Jesus and who he is, never address the reply comments and why what they are saying is untrue, and actively proselytize for "another gospel" as the OP does, then they do not have the right under the Rules if this forum to undermine the deity of Christ. Although this forum is seen publically, it is private, and as members, we need to follow the rules. Free speech does not apply here. You are very mistaken in trying to apply some broad American principles concerning free speech to an Internet forum.

If people want to shout heresy or promote atheism, they are "free" to go start their own forum, or post it on FB or some other site. This forum is to discuss the Bible, and theology and how the Bible applies. There are people I disagree with on any number of issues in this forum - eschatology. Soteriology, ministry, etc. I will debate, discuss what the Bible says all day! I may even get mad at them and put them on ignore for a while, till I calm down. But they are members in good standing, and I can agree with them on Christiology, which is who Christ is, and essential.

Followjesus posts hersey where Christology is concerned. He knows nothing of context, interpretation, or Biblical languages. He undermines Jesus Christ in every post. All those people I disagree with on other matters, well, we all agree that Jesus is God, as shown in the Bible. I have repeatedly reported the OP. Not just because he makes all these threads designed to gain converts to his heresies, which is bad enough, but because he has an agenda, and it comes out in every thread. He is not here to fellowship, chat, and certainly not to discuss the Bible, as we have seen in every thread he posts. Instead, he is here to proselytize for "another gospel," which is a false one! He will not admit what cult he is from, because he knows he will be banned.

So no, so called free speech, which has its place elsewhere does not apply to CC, and definitely not to someone degrading Christ, nor an atheist who is here to convert people. We have had people come in here who were atheists, who pretended to want to learn, but their true colours always showed in the end, and they were banned.

If someone from a cult, another religion, or an atheist comes in here wanting to discuss the claims of Christ, we are all for that! It is a ministry. But when someone joins CC and their sole intent is to find Christians weak in the faith, or new Christians, to convert them as this OP has been doing for what seems like forever, then he has contravened the rules of the forum, which uphold the deity of Christ, and he needs to go!


This is from a stickied thread:

I guess I assumed everyone knew what the essentials are...

Here are examples of the essentials...
(Thise are here to give a general idea of what is essential to the faith, it's not a comprehensive doctrinal statement from this site.)

1. The deity of Jesus.
2. The inspiration and authority of the Bible as found in the 66 books of the Bible.
3. Faith in the crucixition, death and resurrection of Jesus is the only way to reconcile you to relationship with God.
4. Jesus is coming back again!
5. Believers should seek to live for God and not the world.

I may have missed some, but that should give you an idea.

Timing of end times events isn't an essential. Calvinism vs non calvinism isn't an essential. Which version of the Bible to read isn't generally an essential, unless it's a version made by a sect that teaches against the esssentials of the faith.

Those should give you an idea. That list isn't comphrensive. If you have a question about something, send me a CC mail and I'll get back to you on it.

http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...t-vibrant-heated-discussions-please-read.html

Please note! The deity of Christ is essential! No free for all, I mean - free speech!

 

[followjesus]

I especially like John 14:23-24. I like that God makes his home in me. Ginny Owens sings a good song called Home in Me that fits these verses.

<span style="color:#800080;">[video]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IvBfDYHieAA[/video]

yes its really amazing to Know that God comes to Live within those who believe in Jesus, to think How much of an honor that is, that God cares so much that He comes to make his Home with us to be present in our Lives and heal every detail of our brokenness is just awesome. all thanks to Our Lord Jesus and the gospel !!

 

[bluto]

Yes, it is scriptural that the only way to the Father is though His son Jesus Christ. But that can not happen until they first come to Christ..through the law ?
But since Christians never had the law how can that help them ? or if they know it but reject it ?
FAITH would seem the answer and starts a whole new ballgame even more complicated than law...which at least told people what to do or not to do...if only they were obedient.
On the other hand...the mind of natural/carnal man is antagonistic toward God and can not submit and is at best a 'hotbed of imagination...so not much hope of reaching Christ there...hence the confusion in christianity. Are there any answers - starting from scratch ? ( I am keen on foundation)

You said this beta: "Yes, it is scriptural that the only way to the Father is though His son Jesus Christ. But that can not happen until they first come to Christ..through the law?"

So beta, please explain to all of us here what the following verse means stated by the Apostle Paul? Galatians 2:21, "I do not nullify the grace of God; for (or because beta) IF RIGHTEOUSNESS COMES THROUGH THE LAW, THEN CHRIST DIED NEEDLESSLY."

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto

 

[followjesus]

Yes, it is scriptural that the only way to the Father is though His son Jesus Christ. But that can not happen until they first come to Christ..through the law ?
But since Christians never had the law how can that help them ? or if they know it but reject it ?
FAITH would seem the answer and starts a whole new ballgame even more complicated than law...which at least told people what to do or not to do...if only they were obedient.
On the other hand...the mind of natural/carnal man is antagonistic toward God and can not submit and is at best a 'hotbed of imagination...so not much hope of reaching Christ there...hence the confusion in christianity. Are there any answers - starting from scratch ? ( I am keen on foundation)

But since Christians never had the law how can that help them ? or if they know it but reject it ?

romans 2:12-16 "For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; 13(For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. 14For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:15Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another 16In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel."


even Gentiles have " the Law" in thier Hearts and conscience remembering that mankind comes from God. its why even Non believers when they do things like Lie, commit adultery , steel, kill, or whatever they hide it from others because they Know inside those things are wrong.

that is meant to lead to Christ, the law within us that Knows right and Wrong, it makes us aware that we are sinners, and need Jesus, the Son of God sent from God to save those under sin and sentanced to Death. the law of moses was spread through the World when the Jews were dispursed into the whole world beginning in 600 bc and then agaoin after the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 ad. after that they were dispursed into the world and have been in every nation in the world, at least until the year 2000, there were still jews in every nation on earth. with the Jews was dispursed the Law. yet men already have a form of the Law within them in thier conscience otherwise think of it " How would God be just in judging the World?"

Faith is actually what was before the Law came. the time until Moses was sent to deliver the Jews By God and then the law came with that. before that it was Faith Like abraham isaac and Jacob. Like noah, and enoch. take a look at Hebrews 11.

then galatians 3.

Faith was before the Law, and after the Law. the Law was added Because of trespass because of genesis 6 and the state of man then having no rule. God then afterward established the Law through Moses to teach man that we were sinners and condemned, in order to reveal to us our dependance on Gods mercy and salvation that He would send With His Begotten Son Jesus.

 

[followjesus]

"Jesus and who he is, "

matthew 16:16-17 "And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.17And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Pretty simple who Jesus is, He is the Christ, the Son of the Living God <<<< if you or anyone else considers that : herecy" you have some serious issues. and as I have invited you or anyone else to do angela, report me to cc if you consider "Jesus being the Christ and Son of God" or " The One God Sent" or " His only begotten Son" to be herecy report away. because that IS Christianity.

1 john 4:9-15 "In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. 10Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. 11Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.

12No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. 13Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.

14And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.15Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.


you guys are the Ones finding issue with Jesus the Son of God Being Sent By God the Father THE ONLY GOD.

ephesians 1:3 "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

1 corinthians 8:6 "But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

God works Only through His Only Son Jesus Christ. to make More than 1 God, is the actual " herecy" truth be told. Jesus Father IS GOD, He lived in His Son, Just as it is taught that through Faith in HIS SON JESUS He comes to Live in HIS SON JESUS' disciples.


there is Only 1 God, that is the Father of Our Lord Jesus Christ who raised His Son Jesus from the dead, exalted His Son Jesus to sit AT HIS RIGHT HAND. thats all in scripture plainly. as I have already shown. I cant Helo that you few bought a catholic teaching and now cant accept the truth of Scripture, Heres one i havent even shown you guys yet

acts 5:29-32 "Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.30The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree. 31Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. 32And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.

where is the " herecy" taught so many times over by the apostles, its a figment of your imagination because someone actually has the gall to disagree with you....thats not herecy i hate to inform you. Jesus is the Promised Christ, the Son of God. raised up to sit at Gods Right Hand and rule as both Lord and Christ. here it is again

acts 2:30-36 "Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; 31He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. 32This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. 33Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
34For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,35Until I make thy foes thy footstool. 36Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Here it is again

ephesians 1:17-22 "That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him: 18The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,

19And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, 20Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, 21Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:22And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,"


you should definately retire from the " herecy hunting" your not very good at it

 

[followjesus]

You seem to have forgotten that this is a Christian Forum. If atheists and heretics want to come in here, constantly post lies about Jesus and who he is, never address the reply comments and why what they are saying is untrue, and actively proselytize for "another gospel" as the OP does, then they do not have the right under the Rules if this forum to undermine the deity of Christ. Although this forum is seen publically, it is private, and as members, we need to follow the rules. Free speech does not apply here. You are very mistaken in trying to apply some broad American principles concerning free speech to an Internet forum.

If people want to shout heresy or promote atheism, they are "free" to go start their own forum, or post it on FB or some other site. This forum is to discuss the Bible, and theology and how the Bible applies. There are people I disagree with on any number of issues in this forum - eschatology. Soteriology, ministry, etc. I will debate, discuss what the Bible says all day! I may even get mad at them and put them on ignore for a while, till I calm down. But they are members in good standing, and I can agree with them on Christiology, which is who Christ is, and essential.

Followjesus posts hersey where Christology is concerned. He knows nothing of context, interpretation, or Biblical languages. He undermines Jesus Christ in every post. All those people I disagree with on other matters, well, we all agree that Jesus is God, as shown in the Bible. I have repeatedly reported the OP. Not just because he makes all these threads designed to gain converts to his heresies, which is bad enough, but because he has an agenda, and it comes out in every thread. He is not here to fellowship, chat, and certainly not to discuss the Bible, as we have seen in every thread he posts. Instead, he is here to proselytize for "another gospel," which is a false one! He will not admit what cult he is from, because he knows he will be banned.

So no, so called free speech, which has its place elsewhere does not apply to CC, and definitely not to someone degrading Christ, nor an atheist who is here to convert people. We have had people come in here who were atheists, who pretended to want to learn, but their true colours always showed in the end, and they were banned.

If someone from a cult, another religion, or an atheist comes in here wanting to discuss the claims of Christ, we are all for that! It is a ministry. But when someone joins CC and their sole intent is to find Christians weak in the faith, or new Christians, to convert them as this OP has been doing for what seems like forever, then he has contravened the rules of the forum, which uphold the deity of Christ, and he needs to go!


This is from a stickied thread:




http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...t-vibrant-heated-discussions-please-read.html

Please note! The deity of Christ is essential! No free for all, I mean - free speech!

The deity of Christ is essential!

again what is essential is that God exalted HIS SON sent from Heaven born a mortal Man and slain for our sins, raised from the dead By God His Father and exalted to sit at His side reigning as Lord and Christ. this is essential because of what you apparently cant see in this op, if you guys cant believe God would exalt His Son to sit beside Him on His throne you will never get the gospel and what that means for Gods Children who believe in His only begotten Son.

 

[graceNpeace]

The deity of Christ is essential!

again what is essential is that God exalted HIS SON sent from Heaven born a mortal Man and slain for our sins, raised from the dead By God His Father and exalted to sit at His side reigning as Lord and Christ. this is essential because of what you apparently cant see in this op, if you guys cant believe God would exalt His Son to sit beside Him on His throne you will never get the gospel and what that means for Gods Children who believe in His only begotten Son.

The Bible does NOT teach mortal man being deified, no matter who is name is!

Jesus Christ IS God because He ALWAYS WAS God!