AND SPEAKING OF WOF THIS IS REFRESHING AND REVEALING

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He hinges his disbelief on his wrong reading of the word. He says the Bible states time and time again that Jesus always healed immediately. Not always, we can read some that way that seem that way but forget document of actual time is left out. Some say within the hour, that very hour etc.
 
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He said he questioned why some don't get healed, or why it takes a while if it's actually God healing.. if we told someone to dip 7 times we'd be accused too of being false.. yet the Almighty Powerful God who's capable of all said that very thing..
People think they know God who is in fact wholly unknown until glory
 
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bluto said:
The following article reveals why benny hinn's nephew came to his senses and turned to God! https://pjmedia.com/faith/2017/09/22/benny-hinns-nephew-renounces-prosperity-gospel/ I might as well though this into the thread about another wof prophet named kat kerr who commanded the storms to dissipate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQM1...ature=youtu.be :eek:


IN GOD THE SON,
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"Later in the article, Hinn writes of an insightful moment when he "saw that [God] wanted me to live for him regardless of what I could get from him."

So true.
 
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He said,she said.

A little off,since his mentor was Katheryn Koulman who also acknowledged Gods healing is not always manifest,nor instantaneous.

You guy would really hate Joan,a worker at the crusades.

I personally watched her take a neck brace off a man and twist his head side to side. Oooops an instant healing.
Man,don't you just hate that when God moves to heal.

Many,many,many of the healings were manifest through Joan.

Get your eyes off man. Man will always disappoint.

The Baptist,arm chair quarter backs have such an easy job,just sit back and pick apart those trying to do something for God,while clogging up the roadway for anyone daring to step out.
 
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"Later in the article, Hinn writes of an insightful moment when he "saw that [God] wanted me to live for him regardless of what I could get from him."

So true.
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Rich Mullins took a vow if poverty.

Someone like that can point fingers.

We can not,neither can that spoiled brat nephew of Benny Hinn. It takes a certain insidiousness to attack ones uncle who blessed the brats socks off
 
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Lets see,what really happened for the little brat to seek his uncles demise???
 
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He said he questioned why some don't get healed, or why it takes a while if it's actually God healing.. if we told someone to dip 7 times we'd be accused too of being false.. yet the Almighty Powerful God who's capable of all said that very thing..
People think they know God who is in fact wholly unknown until glory
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not so fast

the Bible does not agree with you.

Hebrews 1

God’s Final Word in His Son

1 God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, 2 in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world. 3 And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and [e]upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high

and quite a few other scriptures as well. here are a few more:

John 14:8-9
Philip said to Him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us." Jesus said to him, "Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how can you say, 'Show us the Father'?


2 Corinthians 4:4-6 in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. For we do not preach ourselves but Christ Jesus as Lord, and ourselves as your bond-servants for Jesus' sake. For God, who said, "Light shall shine out of darkness," is the One who has shone in our hearts to give the Light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ.

John 12:44-45 And Jesus cried out and said, "He who believes in Me, does not believe in Me but in Him who sent Me. "He who sees Me sees the One who sent Me.
 
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The following article reveals why benny hinn's nephew came to his senses and turned to God! https://pjmedia.com/faith/2017/09/22/benny-hinns-nephew-renounces-prosperity-gospel/ I might as well though this into the thread about another wof prophet named kat kerr who commanded the storms to dissipate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQM1...ature=youtu.be :eek:


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kat kerr.. another false speaker . they are popping up like no tomorrow these days thanks to the web and youtube

it seems this person does not know that God makes the rain to fall on everyone...good and bad and He is not willing that any should perish

kat here, has forgotten about the rest of the world. I live in FL and where we are, we had only tree damage...we have 5 big water oaks and they drop limbs even when there is no wind..:p, yet nothing on the house at all...just tree stuff. pretty much the same in the area in which we are

now this kat person...why didn't she do her thing for the path of Maria? see, God cares for the entire world and His Son died for the entire world

these wof dudes and dudesses have spiritual tunnel vision. that is one indication of someone who speaks falsely

well that and the fact she is a total nutcase :rolleyes:
 
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He said,she said.

A little off,since his mentor was Katheryn Koulman who also acknowledged Gods healing is not always manifest,nor instantaneous.

You guy would really hate Joan,a worker at the crusades.

I personally watched her take a neck brace off a man and twist his head side to side. Oooops an instant healing.
Man,don't you just hate that when God moves to heal.

Many,many,many of the healings were manifest through Joan.

Get your eyes off man. Man will always disappoint.

The Baptist,arm chair quarter backs have such an easy job,just sit back and pick apart those trying to do something for God,while clogging up the roadway for anyone daring to step out.
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Yet not a single a DOCUMENTED, verified case of healing has come out of the Hinn camp.
But I suppose if Hinn goes to Kuhlmans bones to refresh his anointing we shouldn't judge too harshly.
Nor all that flashy, notice me showmanship that has zero biblical basis.
He's a crass embarrassment selling snake oil to the poor and uneducated.
 
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Yet not a single a DOCUMENTED, verified case of healing has come out of the Hinn camp.
But I suppose if Hinn goes to Kuhlmans bones to refresh his anointing we shouldn't judge too harshly.
Nor all that flashy, notice me showmanship that has zero biblical basis.
He's a crass embarrassment selling snake oil to the poor and uneducated.
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yes

but he has changed his wrap around hairdo over the years

not his wrap around 'ministry' however
 
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Rich Mullins took a vow if poverty.

Someone like that can point fingers.

We can not,neither can that spoiled brat nephew of Benny Hinn. It takes a certain insidiousness to attack ones uncle who blessed the brats socks off
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I take it you have a "heartforhinn" huh? His nephew comes to his senses thanks to God and you call him an "insidious" little brat? Tell me, is this guy a brat as well? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLRue4nwJaA&feature=youtu.be And btw, taking a vow of proverty proves nothing because that's a decision a person makes. On the other hand, taking a stand against false teachers and preachers is what a Christian is commanded to do. Read Matthew 7:15-23 JUST FOR STARTERS. If you want I can give you more verses like Acts 20:29-31. :eek:

IN GOD THE SON,
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Yet not a single a DOCUMENTED, verified case of healing has come out of the Hinn camp.
But I suppose if Hinn goes to Kuhlmans bones to refresh his anointing we shouldn't judge too harshly.
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When Kathryn Kuhlman was alive, attempts were made to document genuine healings through her ministry. Some doctors confirmed that healings had occurred, while others did not.
 
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heartofdavid said:
He said,she said.

A little off,since his mentor was Katheryn Koulman who also acknowledged Gods healing is not always manifest,nor instantaneous.

You guy would really hate Joan,a worker at the crusades.

I personally watched her take a neck brace off a man and twist his head side to side. Oooops an instant healing.
Man,don't you just hate that when God moves to heal.

Many,many,many of the healings were manifest through Joan.

Get your eyes off man. Man will always disappoint.

The Baptist,arm chair quarter backs have such an easy job,just sit back and pick apart those trying to do something for God,while clogging up the roadway for anyone daring to step out.
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Hi David, It's sad that the negativity can be stifling here sometimes but we can't let that hinder us from letting the Joy of the Lord be our strength. I think many believers have lost hope for today and for tomorrow.

There is hope in the Lord every day. It's not only for when we get to heaven and that we horribly endure our lives today. Jesus gives us JOY in the Holy Spirit TODAY. But I think many believers have not been taught how to have the joy of the Lord in the here and now. Some even think it's wrong to have joy.

I think we who have the joy of the Lord should keep on talking about it and posting it and sharing the hope that is in us. Thank you for your post here.
 
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Zi said:
He said he questioned why some don't get healed, or why it takes a while if it's actually God healing.. if we told someone to dip 7 times we'd be accused too of being false.. yet the Almighty Powerful God who's capable of all said that very thing..
People think they know God who is in fact wholly unknown until glory[/QU

Amen! Good observation Zee.
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So you have perfect knowledge of who God is? Nothing yet to be known? I didn't think so
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not so fast

the Bible does not agree with you.

Hebrews 1

God’s Final Word in His Son

1 God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, 2 in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world. 3 And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and [e]upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high

and quite a few other scriptures as well. here are a few more:

John 14:8-9
Philip said to Him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us." Jesus said to him, "Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how can you say, 'Show us the Father'?


2 Corinthians 4:4-6 in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. For we do not preach ourselves but Christ Jesus as Lord, and ourselves as your bond-servants for Jesus' sake. For God, who said, "Light shall shine out of darkness," is the One who has shone in our hearts to give the Light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ.

John 12:44-45 And Jesus cried out and said, "He who believes in Me, does not believe in Me but in Him who sent Me. "He who sees Me sees the One who sent Me.
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none of this even addresses what I said. You obviously missed it
 
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When it comes to healing or anything the Lord is doing in our lives., we are told in the Bible not to look at each other and compare ourselves by ourselves or by each other. It's not our job to live by someone else's faith. What God does in one person's life., He may do differently in another of His children's lives.

Even Jesus said to His disciples when one was inquiring about the other. Jesus said it was none of their business. If a believer has decided to accept the truth of what Jesus has promised and walks in that truth and trusts and relies on Jesus., that believer will see his or her life changed. The Bible promises that the person who acknowledges the Lord, their paths will be straight. It's a promise we can count on.

If a tsunami happens and a believer is spared because of their faith in the Lord's protection., that is a promise that has to do with that believer and Jesus. Good grief it's not wrong to pray for protection or healing. How sad it is for so many here to try to shut down this process of Biblical truth! Keep believing in spite of the horrors of the world. We have to keep believing the promises of God even when the world has no hope. We of all people have Jesus so we have the right to hope in all the promises Jesus died to give us.

Not only for heaven but for today as we live here on this planet. Faith is grown in such times as this. Amen!!
 
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Psalm 91 is a beloved chapter that many believers have been reading and holding on to for years. There are promises in here for us to hold on to because Jesus died to give them to us. But if a believer decides not to., than they can't be angry at another believer who has decided to believe and sees them come to fruition in their daily life.

Psalm 91

[SUP]1 [/SUP]He who [SUP][a][/SUP]dwells in the secret place of the Most High shall remain stable and fixed under the shadow of the Almighty [Whose power no foe can withstand].
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2 [/SUP]I will say of the Lord, He is my Refuge and my Fortress, my God; on Him I lean and rely, and in Him I [confidently] trust!
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3 [/SUP]For [then] He will deliver you from the snare of the fowler and from the deadly pestilence.
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4 [/SUP][Then] He will cover you with His pinions, and under His wings shall you trust and find refuge; His truth and His faithfulness are a shield and a buckler.
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5 [/SUP]You shall not be afraid of the terror of the night, nor of the arrow (the evil plots and slanders of the wicked) that flies by day,
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6 [/SUP]Nor of the pestilence that stalks in darkness, nor of the destruction and sudden death that surprise and lay waste at noonday.
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7 [/SUP]A thousand may fall at your side, and ten thousand at your right hand, but it shall not come near you.
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8 [/SUP]Only a spectator shall you be [yourself inaccessible in the secret place of the Most High] as you witness the reward of the wicked.
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9 [/SUP]Because you have made the Lord your refuge, and the Most High your dwelling place,
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10 [/SUP]There shall no evil befall you, nor any plague or calamity come near your tent.
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11 [/SUP]For He will give His angels [especial] charge over you to accompany and defend and preserve you in all your ways [of obedience and service].
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12 [/SUP]They shall bear you up on their hands, lest you dash your foot against a stone.
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13 [/SUP]You shall tread upon the lion and adder; the young lion and the serpent shall you trample underfoot.
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14 [/SUP]Because he has set his love upon Me, therefore will I deliver him; I will set him on high, because he knows and understands My name [has a personal knowledge of My mercy, love, and kindness—trusts and relies on Me, knowing I will never forsake him, no, never].
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15 [/SUP]He shall call upon Me, and I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble, I will deliver him and honor him.
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16 [/SUP]With long life will I satisfy him and show him My salvation.


 
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He hinges his disbelief on his wrong reading of the word. He says the Bible states time and time again that Jesus always healed immediately. Not always, we can read some that way that seem that way but forget document of actual time is left out. Some say within the hour, that very hour etc.
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Lets not forget Matthew 8:22-26 “Then He came to Bethsaida; and they brought a blind man to Him, and begged Him to touch him.23 So He took the blind man by the hand and led him out of the town. And when He had spit on his eyes and put His hands on him, He asked him if he saw anything.24 And he looked up and said, “I see men like trees, walking.”

25 Then He put His hands on his eyes again and made him look up. And he was restored and saw everyone clearly.26 Then He sent him away to his house, saying, “Neither go into the town, nor tell anyone in the town.”

Jesus touched him twice or prayed for this blind man two times.
 
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​The fact is there are believers here on CC who believe in healing in the atonement and believers who do not. I'm one of the believers who does believe and despite any negativity from others here who disagree I'm still going to share regardless.

We have to allow one another the right to share our faith here afterall. If we disagree we can and must do it agreeably.
 
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