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Enow

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Here is a question I have asked before, in here too, I thinks....lol
What is Paul saying, or more like meaning, when he uses the term "Fulness of the gentiles?" As the Gospel that was given to the Jews, is now, given unto the gentiles, "until the fulness thereof", or, something along those lines, then given again, to the Jews?

I have an idea, what "I" thinks it could mean, but, is really just an educated "guess."
That would have been my guess too.

Luke 21:[SUP]20 [/SUP]And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. [SUP]21 [/SUP]Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. [SUP]22 [/SUP]For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. [SUP]23 [/SUP]But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. [SUP]24 [/SUP]And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

I believe this portion refers to the times when that Temple Jesus was talking about was destroyed back in 70 A.D., and most of the Jews were taken captives into all nations, thus Jerusalem is being trodden underfoot by the Gentiles somewhat still today.

So at the building of the Third Temple when the command goes out to build the Temple which starts the beginning of the great tribulation, the outer courts will still belong to the Gentiles. It has been said that there would be no way to build that third Temple because the Dome of the Rock was still there, but after finding that one wall of the original Temple, they figured it out that they could still build that third Temple but the outer courts of the Temple cannot be built because of the Dome of the Rock. There is a reference somewhere attributing the outer courts still belonging to the Gentiles in regards to the third Temple. It kind of lines up, even though the current stigma is that they Jews wanted the outer courts built too.

Anyway, when the command to build that Temple at the beginning of the great tribulation, one could say that the times of the Gentiles have been fulfilled then and coming to an end since Jerusalem will not be trodden underfoot by the Gentiles any more.

Course, there will be a false peace treaty; some believe it will be a 7 year peace treaty when in actuality, when they make that treaty, the people of that time will think it is for ever, when in actuality, it will only last 7 years.

Except for those that are in the know that knows ahead of time how long that peace treaty will last.

So it is like as you guessed....as I am thinking it applies in this way, after the pre trib rapture event, there will be 144,000 Witnesses for the great tribulation ( not counting the extra 2 at the Temple at Jerusalem ) when Jerusalem will not be trodden underfoot only by the Gentiles any more during that time, and the dispensation of the gospel will be given out by the 144,000 Witnesses while the rest of the saints that have gotten left behind plus new believers as a result of the everlasting gospel, will be starved out or hunted down to be killed in this new world order under the mark of the beast system.

In any event, I think the until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled has to do with Jerusalem being trodden underfoot by the Gentiles when the Jews have been taken captive into all nations.

Since the Jews had become a nation again, and now that they have Jerusalem, the Jews yet somehow, do not have the Gentiles' permission to build that third Temple, thus it is still being trodden underfoot by the Gentiles in that respect, but I reckon things will change after the pre trib rapture when that peace treaty allows the Jews to build that Third Temple, but yet leaving the outer courts to the Gentiles where the Dome of the Rock is.
 

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No question but was at 666 posts...can't have that...ok heres a question...why does a relatively sane person like myself who really doesn't believe in luck find it necessary to not be stuck on 666 posts??? hmmmm
 

Enow

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Why the survival of one kind depends on the pain and death of other kinds?
Not every kind. Some animals are still plant eaters. It was after the flood that men and some animals became meat eaters.

Do animals, fish, insects etc feel pain in the same/similar way as we do?
If God requires account for the life taken of the animal when it is not done for meat, but for sport or for the pleasure of killing, I would say they feel the same as we do.

I recollect a duck hunter shot a couple of ducks at two different points from his position. He found both of them, but one had crawled from his place where he had fallen to his mate to die together. It was plain to the duck hunter that they loved each other. He stopped hunting ducks from that point on. I wish I could find that story on the internet. It is a moving tale.

Anyone having a pet dog or cat or horse can tell you that they feel pain as we do.

Why do we have so many evolution signs on our bodies, in our body chemistry etc.?
If you are referring to varieties of characteristics as per micro evolution as coined and borrowed or stolen from the Law of Biogenesis, that is not really evolution.

The theory of evolution is really macro evolution. For our bodies to have those many signs, we have to have people with gills, tails, wings, and all that stuff that would be considered not the norm of the species of mankind. We are not seeing that at all.

For us to be spring forth macro like... we should be able to reproduce with our "former" kind but no.

So God's words are true as He has set in creation for kinds to reproduce after their own kinds.

If evolution is true, who was Adam and Eve and when they lived?
Evolution as in macroevolution, is not true. When God created Adam & Eve that sixth day, they were good. He did not say, Not quite good. Or Not ready yet. He fashioned man in His image. No guesswork involved.

Macro evolution is a lie. The fact that they have changed the face of evolution by favoring punctuated equilibrium aka rapid macroevolution because there are too huge a gap in the fossil records for gradual macroevolution to be true in according to Stephen Jay Gould and other leading evolutionists. Gould went on to say that there was an explosion in the fossil record ( which he assumed happened back in the Cambrian or Pre Cambrian period ) and that a global flood was responsible.

They are still in the dark.

Even now, they are saying that there is "evidence" that dinosaurs evolved from birds instead of birds from dinosaurs now.

So what does that tell you? For all the time they had been telling you that macro evolution is true, it wasn't true. It has been and always will be in the realm of the theoretical and thus in the imaginations of man.

A hypothesis is to be prove or disproven. They are not doing that in building the evolution theory. They just keep hypothesizing one on top of the other.. all based on assumptions... as if by being able to build on top of the other hypothesis, then it must be true. No, it is not. That is not science. That is spinning a fairy tale. A false science.

Do you believe in Jesus Christ? Do you believe in His words? Because He confirmed the first marriage when God made male and female. He confirmed the six days of creation by acknowledging the Sabbath day being created for man. He referred to Noah's flood as a real warning of what is to come. He warned of the destruction of Sodom & Gomorrah in prompting believers to be ready & prepared. Those are real events or else His warnings fall flat for what is coming.

Don't follow the rabbit down the rabbit hole with micro evolution which is nothing but stolen from the law of Biogenesis. They are even blurring the definitions of micro evolution with macro evolution now. They are even saying that both gradual macro evolution and rapid macro evolution are true when rapid macroevolution was proposed because gradual macro evolution cannot be true.

Do not believe fallible mankind in that false science so called the evolution theory. They are still in the dark and they will keep changing their "facts" & "definitions" because it can never be proven.

1 Timothy 6:[SUP]20 [/SUP]O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: [SUP]21 [/SUP]Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.

Trust Jesus Christ as your Good Shepherd to help you to see the truths in His unchanging words over the ever changing words of mankind in that false science so called the evolution theory.
 

Enow

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Why is satan described as a dinosaur (dragon), is there any connection between these ancient rulers of the earth and him?
I believe that reference is in Revelation.

Revelation 12:[SUP]3 [/SUP]And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. [SUP]4 [/SUP]And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born....[SUP]7 [/SUP]And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, [SUP]8 [/SUP]And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. [SUP]9 [/SUP]And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. [SUP]10 [/SUP]And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. [SUP]11 [/SUP]And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. [SUP]12 [/SUP]Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time..

Sounds like the devil was kicked out at the pre trib rapture event so he will not spoil the celebration at the Marriage Supper.

The most of the other references are towards dinosaurs; both land and sea. Dragons is the best word for dinosaurs at that time.

And since man has seen the dragons to even describe one called the behemoth in Job 40 th chapter, then that proves the evolution theory is lying about dinosaurs having become extinct millions of years before mankind came unto the scene.

As if they can measure that far back as well as confirm such a rating when they are making mistakes with their fallible devices in rating how old things are in human history and even among the living... like a carbon 14 dating of a living mollusks was recorded as 2,300 years old "dead". So why put stock in the unprovable when He has risen?
 

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The intent of a parable is to take an illustration from daily living and use it to explain a spiritual truth.

Those who are open to Spiritual truth will understand the parable either on their own or with a little training and practice.

Those not open to Spiritual truth are said to be unworthy of understanding.
Hi MarcR...That`s exactly what happened with me...When I started reading the Gospels, I had no idea what Jesus was talking about when He spoke in parables although my eyes were opened to understand other things clearly, it was only through time and seeking from others that I could go back and read them with eyes that have been opened by the Holy Spirit:)...I still don`t understand them all, but I know in time God will reveal them to me, just as He has revealed the others...I found once I understood what they meant, lots of goodies also come out from them, new doors opened, new gems found, new meanings to the truth:)...xox...
 

Enow

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It sounds as if Jesus is saying that only the 12 apostles are "worthy" to hear the truth.... that is why Jesus taught in parables, because everyone else might hear the truth, and want to be forgiven/saved.

This makes absolutely no sense to me. That is my "serious" puzzle.

I asked this in another thread and got almost no response... I'm still wondering about it.
Psalm 118:[SUP]22 [/SUP]The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner. [SUP]23 [/SUP]This is the Lord's doing; it is marvellous in our eyes. [SUP]24 [/SUP]This is the day which the Lord hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.

Matthew 21:[SUP]42 [/SUP]Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? [SUP]43 [/SUP]Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

The Jews rejecting the chief cornerstone is the Lord's doing so that the gospel will go also to the Gentiles.

Since God knew that some sinners prefer their wicked deeds rather than come to the light to be reproved of them.

John 3:[SUP]18 [/SUP]He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. [SUP]19 [/SUP]And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. [SUP]20 [/SUP]For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. [SUP]21 [/SUP]But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

Jesus also said...

John 6:[SUP]44 [/SUP]No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Matthew 11:[SUP]25 [/SUP]At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes. [SUP]26 [/SUP]Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight. [SUP]27 [/SUP]All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

Then our believing in Him is a work of God Himself, and so obviously, Israel was blinded for that purpose of having the gospel available to all.
 

hornetguy

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Psalm 118:[SUP]22 [/SUP]The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner. [SUP]23 [/SUP]This is the Lord's doing; it is marvellous in our eyes. [SUP]24 [/SUP]This is the day which the Lord hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.

Matthew 21:[SUP]42 [/SUP]Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? [SUP]43 [/SUP]Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

The Jews rejecting the chief cornerstone is the Lord's doing so that the gospel will go also to the Gentiles.

Since God knew that some sinners prefer their wicked deeds rather than come to the light to be reproved of them.

John 3:[SUP]18 [/SUP]He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. [SUP]19 [/SUP]And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. [SUP]20 [/SUP]For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. [SUP]21 [/SUP]But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

Jesus also said...

John 6:[SUP]44 [/SUP]No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Matthew 11:[SUP]25 [/SUP]At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes. [SUP]26 [/SUP]Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight. [SUP]27 [/SUP]All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

Then our believing in Him is a work of God Himself, and so obviously, Israel was blinded for that purpose of having the gospel available to all.
so, you are saying that Jesus did not want the Jews to hear, and desire salvation?
 

hornetguy

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Ok.... never mind. Google is your friend.

I found some pretty good answers by googling the question.
 

MarcR

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Hi MarcR...That`s exactly what happened with me...When I started reading the Gospels, I had no idea what Jesus was talking about when He spoke in parables although my eyes were opened to understand other things clearly, it was only through time and seeking from others that I could go back and read them with eyes that have been opened by the Holy Spirit:)...I still don`t understand them all, but I know in time God will reveal them to me, just as He has revealed the others...I found once I understood what they meant, lots of goodies also come out from them, new doors opened, new gems found, new meanings to the truth:)...xox...
Many of the parables are only understood from the perspective of a primitive agrarian society or from a Jewish perspective on servitude.
 
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jaybird88

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why did Jesus write in the sand at that stoning? and what was He writing?
 
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one thing that I 'was' afraid of, was asking Jesus if I was a 'feigner'! this was a great 'fear' for me
for many years, I feared that I was 'fooling myself and playing a 'part, wearing a 'mask',.
like on TV...

over much time, Jesus very slowly led 'us' out of our 'fantasy-worlds' and into His Holy Reality:
our Spiritual Awakening began and continues...it was accompanied by signs and wonders,
so no questions need to be asked, for where Jesus' journey for us is headed, we're all in...
 

Johnny_B

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why isnt adam warned about hell?????? or anyone in the old testament. something important like this should be warned u see right????? or maybe its just not written down u see
Here is a warning in Isaiah 33:13-14 Hear, you who are far off, what I have done; and you who are near, acknowledge my might.14 The sinners in Zion are afraid; trembling has seized the godless:
“Who among us can dwell with the consuming fire? Who among us can dwell with everlasting burnings?”

Then you have 66:24
“And they shall go out and look on the dead bodies of the men who have rebelled against me. For theirworm shall not die, their fire shall not be quenched, and they shall be an abhorrence to all flesh.”

Also it seems like they were taught about a judgement and an eternal judgement and with what Isaiah has said it involves a fire that is not quenched.

Psalm 16:9-10 "
Therefore my heart is glad, and my whole being rejoices; my flesh also dwells secure.
10 For you will not abandon my soul to Sheol,
or let your holy one see corruption."

Psalms 28:3 "
Do not drag me off with the wicked,with the workers of evil,who speak peace with their neighbors while evil is in their hearts."

Danial 12:1-2“At that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time. But at that time your people shall be delivered, everyone whose name shall be found written in the book.2 And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

The OT has it as a teaching, the earlist is Numbers and Job, those coming out of Egypt got a first hand view of Sheol. I know that this word can mean grave as well, but notice how Job discribe Sheol, it is associated with heat and sinners. The grave is for all the died with no heat and it is for sinner and saint alike, where Sheol is for sinners and the wicked. Job also places worms and wickedness is broken in Sheol as well.

Numbers 16:32-33 "
And the earth opened its mouth and swallowed them up, with their households and all the people who belonged to Korah and all their goods.33 So they and all that belonged to them went down alive into Sheol, and the earth closed over them, and they perished from the midst of the assembly."

Job 24:19-20
“Drought and heat snatch away the snow waters; so does Sheol those who have sinned.20 The womb forgets them; the worm finds them sweet; they are no longer remembered, so wickedness is broken like a tree.”
 

Zmouth

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It sounds as if Jesus is saying that only the 12 apostles are "worthy" to hear the truth.... that is why Jesus taught in parables, because everyone else might hear the truth, and want to be forgiven/saved.

This makes absolutely no sense to me. That is my "serious" puzzle.

I asked this in another thread and got almost no response... I'm still wondering about it.
Not sure what source you used for the passage you quoted but I noticed that yours stated:

And He was saying to them, “To you has been given the mystery of the kingdom of God, but those who are outside get everything in parables,

FYI: Maybe it was a typo or the new translation in verse 11 you quoted in the Gospel of Mark; but, one paradox could be that unto those who heard his voice it was given the mystery of the kingdom of God because those who haven't heard hear his voice don't even know that they don't know. Thus, by seeing they see not and those by hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. If you know what I mean.
 
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OneFaith

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Would it be harsh to say sin one time human and your done no reconciling.
The law of sin and death (if man sins man dies) contains no mercy. “But the law of the spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death. In what the law was powerless to do, in that it was weakened by the sinful nature, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering- He therefore condemned sin in sinful man, in order that the righteous requirements of the law might be fully met in us who do not live according to the sinful flesh, but according to the Spirit.” You can either live to please your flesh, and go to hell, or live to please the Father, and go to heaven.
 
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This thread is for those that had a question in the back of their mind but were afraid to ask in church or in a Bible study because of time constraint or going off topic or just no liberty at the time to ask that question or afraid to make waves.

I am not guaranteeing that you will get an answer from me or from others, but at least you had asked the question in the hopes that the Lord will raise up someone with the answer. ( Hopefully, it will not be a long winded one ).

If however, you are still reluctant to ask that question, try google search or bing search or whatever search engine you have for searching on the internet, and trust the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal Good Shepherd to help confirm the answer out of the many variety of search results you may find on the internet
In the name of the Father, the Son, and Holy Google search we pray......amen.

No I'm not being critical here just a observation. I suppose the Lord will select, copy, and paste the law in our hearts too.
I'm sure the intent of this thread was good but I couldn't resist. I've written several threads about the internet use and how it's weaken the body of Christ . Now before you sharpen your swords against me think about what's being said.
 

Zmouth

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I recollect a duck hunter shot a couple of ducks at two different points from his position. He found both of them, but one had crawled from his place where he had fallen to his mate to die together. It was plain to the duck hunter that they loved each other. He stopped hunting ducks from that point on. I wish I could find that story on the internet. It is a moving tale.

Got to call Bs on that one,

For starters, ducks are don't exhibit monogamy until they breed and even then only for a single breeding season. Their love, if one what to call it that is not for their mate but for their offspring. After their offspring fly the coup so to say, they fly off in different directions.

Secondly, hunting season is scheduled to prevent hunting during peak breeding periods.

Third, since duck hunting is normally done next to a water source which attracts the birds to such as a pond or lake. The downed fowl are usually retrieved from the water by boat or dogs.

[video=youtube;8a35A-uSGlM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a35A-uSGlM[/video]

I am not going to say that it wasn't a true testimony, but your reference to it being a moving tale

While this is not to say that one can come to repentance for something which someone else might not, the LORD knows I did after shooting a large east Texas bullfrog on a friends ranch. While visiting one time, as we we were headed to town we had to cross over a fairly large pond, (more like a small lake) and he had stopped after he notice a few bullfrogs along the shoreline.

He pulled out his 22 rifle and shot several of them explaining that they can have a detrimental effect on a stock pond if left unchecked. After shooting the ones on the nearby shoreline he noticed a big bullfrog perched on stump sticking out the water on the other side of the pond.

After spotting a huge bullfrog perched on a tree stump sticking out of the water on the other side of the pond, which was a pretty fair distance from where we were at, after chuckling when he missed the second time he handled me his 22 rifle and and kinda challenged me to hit if I could.

So I aimed and shot at the bullfrog. It didn't appear that I hit it since it looked like it was still perched on the stump but my friend who was watching with his binoculars said it was a clean head shot. But as he was handing me the binoculars the frog fell off the stump.

So later that evening I had decided to go wet a hook in the pond had stopped at the place we had been shooting from earlier. After releasing a fish I had caught I had reached down to grab a drink from my beer when I see this large bullfrog basically there on the ground at my feet staring at me.

While the size is enough to scare the heck of someone but the panic almost instantly became sorrow as I couldn't help but notice the side of his head missing and a large tear along it side. It was if the Holy Ghost manifested there and made me see what I had done to this bullfrog

It was as if the Holy Ghost was telling me by these thoughts that began coming to mind that I didn't shoot it for food, that I didn't even shoot it to help out my friend control their numbers around his pond, but that I had only shot at it out of my own selfish pride and conceit to prove I was a good shot and that I didn't even do that since I didn't kill it but my actions only caused it to suffer until the wounds lead to it death.

After acknowledging that true and righteous was His word and repenting for what I had done. I asked the LORD to please not let the poor creature because of my own ignorant foolishness. As I bent down to look at its wounds more closely it moved back into the pond it went under the water at which point I recall this feeling that sensation as if the LORD's spirit had moved over me and washed me and the thought came to me the LORD would make it alright.

As I started loading my fishing gear back in my vehicle my friend drove up to see if the fish were biting. As we sat there drinking a beer and talking, I had mentioned seeing that frog I had shot earlier but before I could say anything more about what had followed my buddy began laughing, asking me if I really thought I had actually hit it and proceeded to tell me that I had missed it by a mile.

 

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Why is satan described as a dinosaur (dragon), is there any connection between these ancient rulers of the earth and him?
I don't believe dinosaurs and dragons are identical but the resemblance is certainly remarkable. But it is more than likely that the serpent in Eden resembled a dragon, and was subsequently possessed by Satan and enabled to speak. Dragon and snake worship has existed since ancient times throughout the world, and no doubt Satan was the instigator of such worship. His primary desire all along has been to rob God of His rightful worship, and redirect worship to himself.
 

trofimus

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Not every kind. Some animals are still plant eaters. It was after the flood that men and some animals became meat eaters.



If God requires account for the life taken of the animal when it is not done for meat, but for sport or for the pleasure of killing, I would say they feel the same as we do.

I recollect a duck hunter shot a couple of ducks at two different points from his position. He found both of them, but one had crawled from his place where he had fallen to his mate to die together. It was plain to the duck hunter that they loved each other. He stopped hunting ducks from that point on. I wish I could find that story on the internet. It is a moving tale.

Anyone having a pet dog or cat or horse can tell you that they feel pain as we do.



If you are referring to varieties of characteristics as per micro evolution as coined and borrowed or stolen from the Law of Biogenesis, that is not really evolution.

The theory of evolution is really macro evolution. For our bodies to have those many signs, we have to have people with gills, tails, wings, and all that stuff that would be considered not the norm of the species of mankind. We are not seeing that at all.

For us to be spring forth macro like... we should be able to reproduce with our "former" kind but no.

So God's words are true as He has set in creation for kinds to reproduce after their own kinds.



Evolution as in macroevolution, is not true. When God created Adam & Eve that sixth day, they were good. He did not say, Not quite good. Or Not ready yet. He fashioned man in His image. No guesswork involved.

Macro evolution is a lie. The fact that they have changed the face of evolution by favoring punctuated equilibrium aka rapid macroevolution because there are too huge a gap in the fossil records for gradual macroevolution to be true in according to Stephen Jay Gould and other leading evolutionists. Gould went on to say that there was an explosion in the fossil record ( which he assumed happened back in the Cambrian or Pre Cambrian period ) and that a global flood was responsible.

They are still in the dark.

Even now, they are saying that there is "evidence" that dinosaurs evolved from birds instead of birds from dinosaurs now.

So what does that tell you? For all the time they had been telling you that macro evolution is true, it wasn't true. It has been and always will be in the realm of the theoretical and thus in the imaginations of man.

A hypothesis is to be prove or disproven. They are not doing that in building the evolution theory. They just keep hypothesizing one on top of the other.. all based on assumptions... as if by being able to build on top of the other hypothesis, then it must be true. No, it is not. That is not science. That is spinning a fairy tale. A false science.

Do you believe in Jesus Christ? Do you believe in His words? Because He confirmed the first marriage when God made male and female. He confirmed the six days of creation by acknowledging the Sabbath day being created for man. He referred to Noah's flood as a real warning of what is to come. He warned of the destruction of Sodom & Gomorrah in prompting believers to be ready & prepared. Those are real events or else His warnings fall flat for what is coming.

Don't follow the rabbit down the rabbit hole with micro evolution which is nothing but stolen from the law of Biogenesis. They are even blurring the definitions of micro evolution with macro evolution now. They are even saying that both gradual macro evolution and rapid macro evolution are true when rapid macroevolution was proposed because gradual macro evolution cannot be true.

Do not believe fallible mankind in that false science so called the evolution theory. They are still in the dark and they will keep changing their "facts" & "definitions" because it can never be proven.

1 Timothy 6:[SUP]20 [/SUP]O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: [SUP]21 [/SUP]Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.

Trust Jesus Christ as your Good Shepherd to help you to see the truths in His unchanging words over the ever changing words of mankind in that false science so called the evolution theory.
I know this theory, to me it does not make sense and does not correspondent with reality.
 
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AbbyPia

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This is my question: With all the things going on such as but not limited to earthquakes, tsunami, storm surge, sink holes, global warming and many more. It also includes crime rates going up, terrorist attacks, wars ongoing, etc. Does these all means the end is near? If it's near, how near? 5yrs, 10yrs, 20 years?
 

trofimus

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#60
This is my question: With all the things going on such as but not limited to earthquakes, tsunami, storm surge, sink holes, global warming and many more. It also includes crime rates going up, terrorist attacks, wars ongoing, etc. Does these all means the end is near? If it's near, how near? 5yrs, 10yrs, 20 years?
It can also just mean that in a globalized world with immediate telecommunication we have simply more information of what is happening.

Thats why it can look like rates of everything are growing.