How can "all Israel be saved" if:

[Locutus]

"The sons of the kingdom will be cast out into the outer darkness".

Matt 8:11 “I say to you that many will come from east and west, and recline at the table with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven;

Matt 8:12 but the sons of the kingdom will be cast out into the outer darkness; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

Catch 44...

 

[Willie-T]

He often used "ALL" when He didn't really mean all

See: John 12:32.

John 12:32 English Standard Version (ESV)

32 And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.”

 

[FlSnookman7]

Hi Willie-T I would also welcome your views over on Locutus' dispensational thread if you have time. Thank you.

 

[Desertsrose]

"The sons of the kingdom will be cast out into the outer darkness".

Matt 8:11 “I say to you that many will come from east and west, and recline at the table with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven;

Matt 8:12 but the sons of the kingdom will be cast out into the outer darkness; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

Catch 44...

Hi Locutus,

This is from got questions dot org.
Romans 11:26 plainly says, “All Israel will be saved.” The question that arises is “What is meant by Israel?” Is the future “Israel” literal or figurative (i.e., referring to the ethnic Jews or referring to the Church)? Those who take a literal approach to the promises of the Old Testament believe that the physical descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob will be restored to a right relationship with God and receive the fulfillment of the covenants. Those who advocate replacement theology basically affirm that the Church has completely replaced Israel and will inherit God’s promises to Israel; the covenants, then, will be fulfilled only in a spiritual sense. In other words, replacement theology teaches that Israel will not inherit the actual land of Israel; the Church is the “new Israel,” and ethnic Israel is forever excluded from the promises—the Jews will not inherit the Promised Land as Jews per se.

We take the literal approach. The passages that speak of future Israel are difficult to view as figurative for the Church. The classic text (Romans 11:16–24) depicts Israel as distinct from the Church: the “natural branches” are the Jews, and the “wild branches” are the Gentiles. The “olive tree” is the collective people of God. The “natural branches” (Jews) are “cut off” the tree for unbelief, and the “wild branches” (believing Gentiles) are grafted in. This has the effect of making the Jews “jealous” and then drawing them to faith in Christ, so they might be “grafted in” again and receive their promised inheritance. The “natural branches” are still distinct from the “wild branches,” so that God’s covenant with His people is literally fulfilled. Romans 11:26–29, citing Isaiah 59:20–21; 27:9; Jeremiah 31:33–34, says:

“And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: ‘The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob. And this is my covenant with them when I take away their sins.’ As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies on your account; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable.”

Here, Paul emphasizes the “irrevocable” nature of Israel’s calling as a nation (see also Romans 11:12). Isaiah predicted that a “remnant” of Israel would one day “be called the Holy People, the Redeemed of the LORD” (Isaiah 62:12). Regardless of Israel’s current state of unbelief, a future remnant will in fact repent and fulfill their calling to establish righteousness by faith (Romans 10:1–8; 11:5). This conversion will coincide with the fulfillment of Moses’ prediction of Israel’s permanent restoration to the land (Deuteronomy 30:1–10).

When Paul says Israel will be “saved” in Romans 11:26, he refers to their deliverance from sin (verse 27) as they accept the Savior, their Messiah, in the end times. Moses said, “The Lord your God will circumcise your hearts and the hearts of your descendants, so that you may love him with all your heart and with all your soul, and live” (Deuteronomy 30:6). Israel’s physical inheritance of the land promised to Abraham will be an integral part of God’s ultimate plan (Deuteronomy 30:3–5).

So how will “all Israel be saved”? The details of this deliverance are filled out in passages such as Zechariah 8—14 and Revelation 7—19, which speak of end-times Israel at Christ’s return. The key verse describing the coming to faith of the future remnant of Israel is Zechariah 12:10, “I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication. They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son.” This occurs at the end of the tribulation prophesied in Daniel 9:24–27. The apostle John references this event in Revelation 1:7. The faithful remnant of Israel is epitomized in Revelation 7:1–8. These faithful ones the Lord will save and bring back to Jerusalem “in truth and righteousness” (Zechariah 8:7–8, NASB).

After Israel is spiritually restored, Christ will establish His millennial kingdom on earth. Israel will be regathered from the ends of the earth (Isaiah 11:12; 62:10). The symbolic “dry bones” of Ezekiel’s vision will be brought together, covered with flesh, and miraculously resuscitated (Ezekiel 37:1–14). As God promised, the salvation of Israel will involve both a spiritual awakening and a geographical home: “I will put my Spirit in you and you will live, and I will settle you in your own land” (Ezekiel 37:14).

In the Day of the Lord, God will “reclaim the surviving remnant of his people” (Isaiah 11:11). Jesus Christ will return and destroy the armies gathered against Him in rebellion (Revelation 19). Sinners will be judged, and the faithful remnant of Israel will be set apart forever as God’s holy people (Zechariah 13:8—14:21). Isaiah 12 is their song of deliverance; Zion will rule over all the nations under the banner of Messiah the King.

 

[Johnny_B]

We need to get the context of what or who Paul is reffering to as Israel, not the Church or the elcet Gentiles, but he is reffering to Israel's children of promise tyhe elct of Israel.

Romans 9:6-9 “But it is not that the word of God has taken no effect. For they are not all Israel who are of Israel,7 nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, “In Isaac your seed shall be called.”8 That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed.9 For this is the word of promise: “At this time I will come and Sarah shall have a son.”

Romans 11:1-7 “I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not! For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.2 God has not cast away His people whom He foreknew. Or do you not know what the Scripture says of Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel, saying,3 “Lord, they have killed Your prophets and torn down Your altars, and I alone am left, and they seek my life”?4 But what does the divine response say to him? “I have reserved for Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal.”5 Even so then, at this present time there is a remnant according to the election of grace.6 And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work.

7 What then? Israel has not obtained what it seeks; but the elect have obtained it, and the rest were blinded.

Also keep in mind there are Jews that have come to their Messiah, because they are the children of promise. However you slice it Paul is speaking of the children of Israel, the Jews the people that the Lord has brought back to the land.

 

[Locutus]

That's the dispensational view Rose from gotquestions - the question not addressed in the above is how can all Israel be saved all the way back to the 1st century by Jesus returning in the future? Do the unbelieing Jews since the first century get a "get out of "hell" card" while the rest of us have to come in by faith?

I just posted this in the other thread, which is somewhat relevant here:


Rom 11:7 What then? What Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were hardened.

Rom 11:17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker with them of the rich root of the olive tree,

The traditional view of the above it that the 1st century unbelieving Jews/Judah are being spoken off.

It is my opinion that he is speaking of the dispersed 10 tribes of Israel, I say that because the were swept away into the Gentile nations for idolatry and killing the prophets etc:

Rom 11:3 Lord, THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE.”

Rom 11:4 But what is the divine response to him? “I HAVE KEPT for Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL.”

There is no doubt that many 1st century "Jews" rejected Christ and were cut off in the war of 66-70 AD - "the wrath to come" of John the Baptist.

Romans was written around mid 50 AD, so the gathering of the diaspora of the ten tribes was still in its early days.

When Peter wrote his first letter around 64 AD we see he is addressing the diaspora of the ten tribes as a royal nation, a holy priesthood:

1 Pet 1:1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who reside as aliens (Greek - parepidemos), scattered (Greek - diaspora) throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, who are chosen.

parepidemos - an alien alongside, i.e. a resident foreigner.

diaspora - dispersion, i.e. (specially and concretely) the (converted) Israelite resident in Gentile countries


Peter is not addressing Gentiles as is claimed by some commentaries, he is addressing the ten scattered tribes as can be seen by his use of the Greek "parepidemos", a resident foreigner, which means they were not native to lands they were scattered in.

1 peter 2:9 But you are A CHOSEN RACE, A royal PRIESTHOOD, A HOLY NATION, A PEOPLE FOR God’s OWN POSSESSION, so that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;

James also addresses all of the 12 tribes who were being gathered in the 1st century and calling them first fruits:

James 1:1 James, a bond-servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, To the twelve tribes who are dispersed abroad: Greetings.

James 1:18 In the exercise of His will He brought us forth by the word of truth, so that we would be a kind of first fruits among His creatures.

The conclusion is that all the tribes were being gathered in Christ as promised by the prophets, there is no further gathering of the tribes at some later date 1970 years and counting into the future as posited by dispensationalism and therefore all Israel was saved prior to the war of 66-70 AD.

 

[Nehemiah6]

That's the dispensational view Rose from gotquestions - the question not addressed in the above is how can all Israel be saved all the way back to the 1st century by Jesus returning in the future? Do the unbelieing Jews since the first century get a "get out of "hell" card" while the rest of us have to come in by faith?

Well "all the way back to the 1st century" is not what is stated in Romans 11:26.

And Desert Rose has given you a very comprehensive response, yet you have not accepted it as true. It is not a "Dispensational" view but a biblical view. You simply have to believe what God has revealed.

1. First of all, since Paul was writing by Divine inspiration it is God who says that "all Israel shall be saved". So do you or do you not believe God? Then believe this also.

2. Secondly the verse is very clear that it happens at the second coming of Christ. It has nothing to do with the salvation of Jews between the first and second coming of Christ. Please note:...as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob.

So the Deliverer is none other than Christ, and "Jacob" another name for Israel. Christ will literally stand on the Mount of Olives after His second coming and that mount will be split into two. He will then deliver "Sion" (Jerusalem) from all its enemies at the battle of Armageddon, and then gather all Jews from all around the world to bring them to Israel and bring them to salvation. They will see their true Messiah, and mourn and weep, and turn to Him with repentance for salvation. That is what it means by "He shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob".

Had you studied the prophecy of Ezekiel (as recommended some time ago) you would have discovered this. It is also mentioned in the other prophecies, but let's just stick with Ezekiel (Ezek 36:24-28):

24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.

25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

28 And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.

 

[MarcR]

"The sons of the kingdom will be cast out into the outer darkness".

Matt 8:11 “I say to you that many will come from east and west, and recline at the table with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven;

Matt 8:12 but the sons of the kingdom will be cast out into the outer darkness; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

Catch 44...

the sons of the kingdom refers to those of Israel who could not accept the suffering servant Messiah of Is 53 and Ps22; but insisted on a political Messiah to restore the Kingdom.

The vast majority of the Church in the first 3 centuries were in fact Jewish believers who were focused on God instead of political aspirations.

There were however many gentile believers as well.

 

[MarcR]

He often used "ALL" when He didn't really mean all

See: John 12:32.

John 12:32 English Standard Version (ESV)

32 And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.”

I agree.

The difference between the Koine Greek of the Bible and classical Greek is that Koine Greek has a lot of Hebrew idiom superimposed on the Greek language.

In Hebrew kohl can mean either all or some of each and which is appropriate can only be determined in context.

This usage is extended into pantas in Jn 12:32. The intent is: '[wherever the gospel is preached], I will draw some unto me.'

that which is in square brackets is not stated but strongly implied.

 

[Johnny_B]

That's the dispensational view Rose from gotquestions - the question not addressed in the above is how can all Israel be saved all the way back to the 1st century by Jesus returning in the future? Do the unbelieing Jews since the first century get a "get out of "hell" card" while the rest of us have to come in by faith?

Of course not. Who has said that all Israel would be saved in the way you've put it?

 

[Locutus]

A comparison between Ezekiel and Corinthians shows that Paul is virtually repeating the prophet's words and applying them to the Gentiles:

Ezekiel 37:26-27 I will make a covenant of peace with them. It shall be an everlasting covenant with them. And I will set them in their land and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in their midst forevermore.My dwelling place shall be with them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

2 Cor 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

What is significant about Paul's use of Ezekiel here is prior to the above is the regathering of Israel under on stick - bringing the tribes together as one:

Ezek 37:16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions:

Ezek 37:17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.

Now if what Paul is stating from Ezekiel's prophecy is happening at Corinth in the 1st century AD "they shall be my people" then it must follow that the previous actions were already under way "I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen".

Ezek 37:21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:

And this is exactly what we find happening in James' letter:

James 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

Thus in the 1st century AD we have the 12 tribes being called together to be one "stick" and the Gentiles as "I will be their God, and they shall be my people" in the body of Christ.


Ezekiel 37 is one continuous prophecy of the "resurrection":

Ezek 37:4 Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.

Ezek 37:5 Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live:

Ezek 37:12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

In Israelite speak (or poetic/metaphoric language) being separated from God and or the land was to be "dead" or "in the grave."

What Ezekiel is describing is bringing the living diaspora back into fellowship with him from exilic death and their "graves" - not a bringing up of decomposed bodies out of the ground.

 

[Locutus]

He often used "ALL" when He didn't really mean all

See: John 12:32.

John 12:32 English Standard Version (ESV)

32 And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.”

I wouldn't disagree here Willie, that said, Paul does qualify "all Israel":

Rom 9:6 But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For they are not all Israel who are descended from Israel;

Rom 9:7 nor are they all children because they are Abraham’s descendants, but: “THROUGH ISAAC YOUR DESCENDANTS WILL BE NAMED.”

And this ties in with what Paul said in Galatians:

Gal 4:29 But as at that time he who was born according to the flesh persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, so it is now also.

So the "all saved" applied to Israel according to the spirit born and not those who were only born according to flesh.

 

[Johnny_B]

A comparison between Ezekiel and Corinthians shows that Paul is virtually repeating the prophet's words and applying them to the Gentiles:

Ezekiel 37:26-27 I will make a covenant of peace with them. It shall be an everlasting covenant with them. And I will set them in their land and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in their midst forevermore.My dwelling place shall be with them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

2 Cor 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

What is significant about Paul's use of Ezekiel here is prior to the above is the regathering of Israel under on stick - bringing the tribes together as one:

Ezek 37:16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions:

Ezek 37:17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.

Now if what Paul is stating from Ezekiel's prophecy is happening at Corinth in the 1st century AD "they shall be my people" then it must follow that the previous actions were already under way "I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen".

Ezek 37:21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:

And this is exactly what we find happening in James' letter:

James 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

Thus in the 1st century AD we have the 12 tribes being called together to be one "stick" and the Gentiles as "I will be their God, and they shall be my people" in the body of Christ.


Ezekiel 37 is one continuous prophecy of the "resurrection":

Ezek 37:4 Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.

Ezek 37:5 Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live:

Ezek 37:12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

In Israelite speak (or poetic/metaphoric language) being separated from God and or the land was to be "dead" or "in the grave."

What Ezekiel is describing is bringing the living diaspora back into fellowship with him from exilic death and their "graves" - not a bringing up of decomposed bodies out of the ground.

All that is beyond my level of spirituality. The elect have always believed in Christ to be saved, whether it looking to his coming to fulfill the Law and the Prophets or looking back at His fulfillment of the Law and the Prophets it's always been the way of salvation. The idea that being born to a people saves you is noty Biblical. Christ is and always has been the way of salvation, they may not have fully understood it the way we do because we have the advantage of looking back to His fulfillment.

If dispensationalist believe that just because they were born Jewish that they get a free pass to heaven they are very wrong.

 

[OneFaith]

"The sons of the kingdom will be cast out into the outer darkness".

Matt 8:11 “I say to you that many will come from east and west, and recline at the table with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven;

Matt 8:12 but the sons of the kingdom will be cast out into the outer darkness; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

Catch 44...

I think the sons of the He kingdom are referring to physical Israelites who think they have Abraham as their father. “I tell you the truth, from these stones God can raise up children for Abraham.” In John chapter one Jesus came to His own people, but they would not receive Him, so He switched to adoption (whosoever will). Israelites now must get baptized in Christ in order to be God’s people, just like the rest of us. But many of them still think their physicality is their ticket into heaven, and rely solely on that- which will not work.

 

[trofimus]

I do not even know what you are talking about.

"Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in and in this way all Israel will be saved"
R 11:25,26 NIV

Some of Gentiles + some of [national] Israel = its the way all [spiritual] Israel will be saved

Some may be confused by different use of the word "Israel". But the sentence will not make sense if you will put the same meaning into both places.

 

[garee]

This is from got questions dot org.

Romans 11:26 plainly says, “All Israel will be saved.” The question that arises is “What is meant by Israel?” Is the future “Israel” literal or figurative (i.e., referring to the ethnic Jews or referring to the Church)? Those who take a literal approach to the promises of the Old Testament believe that the physical descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob will be restored to a right relationship with God and receive the fulfillment of the covenants. Those who advocate replacement theology basically affirm that the Church has completely replaced Israel and will inherit God’s promises to Israel; the covenants, then, will be fulfilled only in a spiritual sense. In other words, replacement theology teaches that Israel will not inherit the actual land of Israel; the Church is the “new Israel,” and ethnic Israel is forever excluded from the promises—the Jews will not inherit the Promised Land as Jews per se.

Israel has the temporal land that was promised. It is not the eternal land the new heavenly Jerusalem prepred as His bride ,the Christians.

The bride of Christ, the church does not replace the bride of Christ. She is the mother of us all in respect to the many.

The all is always as in respect to as many as he gave the authority to believe. That exclusive believing, exercising a faith that works in us , it comes from hearing God .It is the work of God that we can believe Him . He who remains without form.

This is not of their own selves. It has nothing to do with glorying in the flesh of a Jew or a Gentile /Greek .....male or female. .
The word many is the key that unlocks the mystery of the word all.

Matthew 14:36 And besought him that they might only touch the hem of his garment: and as many as touched were made perfectly whole.

Matthew 20:28 Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

John 17:2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the LORD our God shall call.

John 8:30 As he spake these words, many believed on him.

All Israel are not born again new creatures, only as many according to the new name (Christian) He once called Israel a inward Jew reborn of the Spirit of God . The time of the reformation has come. No more bleating of the sheep.

The lamb who was slain from the foundation of the world (six days) came and demonstrated as if he was a man as us. He remains without beginning and end of Spirit life. (supernatural) The demonstration was not the actual work of pouring out His Spirit life needed for eternal life, the promise. Its why its called a demonstration.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Romans 11 says at a future time, when certain criteria is met, God will remove the blindness, and instead of Isreal being blind only in part. All isreal will be saved

Thats how.

but if you believe God is done with Isreal. You will never understand.

 

[trofimus]

Romans 11 says at a future time, when certain criteria is met, God will remove the blindness, and instead of Isreal being blind only in part. All isreal will be saved

Thats how.

but if you believe God is done with Isreal. You will never understand.

Bible says:

"Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in and in this way all Israel will be saved"
R 11:25,26 NIV

While you read:

"Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in and after that all Israel will be saved"
R 11:25,26 E-G translation

 

[garee]

Romans 11 says at a future time, when certain criteria is met, God will remove the blindness, and instead of Isreal being blind only in part. All isreal will be saved

Thats how.

but if you believe God is done with Isreal. You will never understand.

The Israel that is not the Israel simply because of the time of refomation revert back to the gentile. This is where they came from for a short while.

The fullness of the gentiles will come when the last sinner is given the faith that alone comes from hearing God through the perfect (as it is written). They served their temporal service to show God is not served with human hands as a will..

He is not done with all Israel according to the new name he named His wife, Christian ... (residents of the city of Christ the new Jerusalem). One bride, one church many names to identify her.. All Christian are not Christians as many as the father gave the son they alone will come.

What would be the purpose of glorying in a the flesh of a outward Jew or Christian . We know God is no respecter of persons and if a man has not the Spirit of Christ the Holy Spirit of God they simply are not of the true Israel or true Christians the new name he named Israel. .

God puts no difference between the purifying the hearts of both by a work of His faith ,as a labor of his three day love.

Its dispensationalism that says he works differently in different dispensations.

Act 15:8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
Act 15:9 And put no difference between usand them, purifying their hearts by faith.

 

[JaumeJ]

When you know just who Israel is, then you will understand but until then you will be asking this question over and over.