Free will and God's will

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1ofthem

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By putting our complete faith in Jesus Christ our savior.

Jesus himself even instructs us that before becoming his disciple we have to count the cost...Which to me is no cost at all, but I think that it means we have to be willing to lay down our own will and put him first.... to me this is putting him first and putting our complete faith in him.
 
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By putting our complete faith in Jesus Christ our savior.

Jesus himself even instructs us that before becoming his disciple we have to count the cost...Which to me is no cost at all, but I think that it means we have to be willing to lay down our own will and put him first.... to me this is putting him first and putting our complete faith in him.
Thank you, because you understand this, much more will be given to you!
 
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Romans 7: KJV
{18} For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not."

So people can have free will about doing or resisting things irrespective of their ability to actually perform or resist those things..
Intriguing!
Best answer I've seen so far!

But I only had two minutes and have to go move furniture now. Oh I can't WAIT to talk with you guys tonight!
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Play the victim, censure God, erect a straw man. ↑ ↑ ↑

See it continues. (He can’t even admit I proved his buddy to be in error)

amazing, lets not stand up to the sin of others, or our own sin, but lets blame others.

and they wonder why I have stopped responding to them
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Because you've done no such thing so there is nothing to admit.

The fact remains, you censure God. Romans 9:20.

Yeah whatever dude, He said we do not mention God, And I proved we did.

He was proven to be wrong. Because we mentioned God in all out posts numerous times as I proved,.

I already stated I refuse to discuss calvanism with you people. Typically, You responded to me with blind eyes, you thought. I was talking about calvanism, even though I told someone earlier I was not going to discuss that. Which just proves my point even more.

There is no use discussing calvanism with certain people. All it does is break hate, attacks, unchristlike behavior, and division. Not worth it. (As I said, it is not all people. It is just a select few)

But when someone tries to attack others by stating things which are not true. I will call them out. I do not care who you are. And if people do not stand up and call a sin out that is sin, thats on them. .
 

1ofthem

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Because you've done no such thing so there is nothing to admit.

The fact remains, you censure God. Romans 9:20.
Take it back to Jeremiah 18, pal...I don't think Paul would disagree with the original scriptures. :)
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Take it back to Jeremiah 18, pal...I don't think Paul would disagree with the original scriptures. :)

Lol, true, of course that was not the context of what I was talking about to him, As usual, some people assume much, and assumed wrong. So they make errors. We will see if they even repent, or continue to blame shift.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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By the way, I realise it was a few pages ago. So for the sake of those who may have come in late, here is the post I was talking about.

Sissy, watch this thread closely. Free will is their god. They mention it more than they do God and the Christ. How many of their posts do they mention their free will with not one mention of Them?
Also. I noticed when I went back preacher liked this post. Lololol! No wonder he he had to try to change subjects.. He agreed with him..
 

1ofthem

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Lol, true, of course that was not the context of what I was talking about to him, As usual, some people assume much, and assumed wrong. So they make errors. We will see if they even repent, or continue to blame shift.
Yeah, you gotta look over some on here...they love the blame shifting game...It's all about their own pride to some of them...

God bless you brother.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Yeah, you gotta look over some on here...they love the blame shifting game...It's all about their own pride to some of them...

God bless you brother.
we can all fall into this. I know I have, so we have to be open to correction from our brothers and sisters. Otherwise, we destroy our trustworthyness and our reputation.
 

1ofthem

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we can all fall into this. I know I have, so we have to be open to correction from our brothers and sisters. Otherwise, we destroy our trustworthyness and our reputation.
I agree...I've done it too, but I do try to listen to others and have an honest discussions with them because God knows I don't have it all figured out, and I do make mistakes...so when I do, I feel the need to apologize to others...and I have had to do that more than a few times...
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I agree...I've done it too, but I do try to listen to others and have an honest discussions with them because God knows I don't have it all figured out, and I do make mistakes...so when I do, I feel the need to apologize to others...and I have had to do that more than a few times...

Yep, we have to use our god given free will to humble ourselves and confess our sin to each other’s. And not blame shift. Even non believers can chose to admit they are wrong. Why some people who are believers seem to have a hard time with this just baffles me.
 

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There is no use discussing calvinism with certain people.

Correct. And it is Calvinism. Actually it is no use discussing Calvinism with Calvinists. They have made such a firm commitment to their theology that not even corrective Scripture can make any difference. But then, you will find the same attitude with others who also hold to false beliefs. It would appear that once an erroneous doctrine is accepted, it become "Gospel truth" for the victim, and rarely will they repent and walk away from error.