“The Law is bad”
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lol. You think you know what everyone believes dont you? Where did I ever say we shoudul not spend some time which God on saterday? I said the sabbath day as given to mankind was what it was. it was a day of rest.
Why don;t you learn what a relationship is, and get away from your tradition. traditions got Isreal to crucify Christ, it is dangerous. A relationship is not based on tradition, it is based on walking side by side and getting to know the one you want to relate to.
Why don;t you learn what a relationship is, and get away from your tradition. traditions got Isreal to crucify Christ, it is dangerous. A relationship is not based on tradition, it is based on walking side by side and getting to know the one you want to relate to.
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Yes, I agree, this is a great example.
Here is where your example should help you. If you already repented because you understood your had cancer that was going to kill you, Why do you need to continue having the X-ray when you were completely healed? Do you not believe God healed you completely? If you still need an X-ray, I would find another doctor, because the first one did not complete his job.
Also. The X-ray can show the problem (the diseases) but it can not heal the disease. The X-ray exposes the problem, the physician then must fix the problem. The law exposes the problem., The physician (Christ) must heal the problem.
The dr does not come to you,. And say here is the problem, Now I will fix it, It does not have that capability. Nor does the law. it is the tutor to lead us to christ. So we can go to christ to be healed (by his stripes we are healed)
Here is where your example should help you. If you already repented because you understood your had cancer that was going to kill you, Why do you need to continue having the X-ray when you were completely healed? Do you not believe God healed you completely? If you still need an X-ray, I would find another doctor, because the first one did not complete his job.
Also. The X-ray can show the problem (the diseases) but it can not heal the disease. The X-ray exposes the problem, the physician then must fix the problem. The law exposes the problem., The physician (Christ) must heal the problem.
The dr does not come to you,. And say here is the problem, Now I will fix it, It does not have that capability. Nor does the law. it is the tutor to lead us to christ. So we can go to christ to be healed (by his stripes we are healed)
The law is good (Romans 7:12) but it's man who is bad (Romans 3:10-12; 23). Solution to the problem? Try and do a better job of following the law? NO!
*Sin is the cancer and JESUS (not the law) is the solution!
*The solution is found in Romans 6:23 - For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life THROUGH JUSUS CHRIST OUR LORD and not through our best efforts to try and follow the law (Ephesians 2:8,9; Philippians 3:9).
*Sin is the cancer and JESUS (not the law) is the solution!
*The solution is found in Romans 6:23 - For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life THROUGH JUSUS CHRIST OUR LORD and not through our best efforts to try and follow the law (Ephesians 2:8,9; Philippians 3:9).
As long as we are in the flesh we commit sin and are therefore not instantly healed....even Paul was lamenting that problem Rom 7. If some people stop sinning the moment they accept Christ it's a miracle indeed...afraid it's not happening that fast with me..slow learner and I still NEED Christ very much in my life.
I do not disregard them, as I already explained in post #129 and the law on our heart and mind is the love of the Spirit, not the law of the letter. This is why Paul tells us that the new covenant is a covenant of the Spirit, and not of the letter (2 Corinthians 3:6-9).
I don't turn the letter of the law under the Old Covenant into a legalistic prescription for Christians under the New Covenant and I certainly don't believe that Jesus is lawless (Romans 13:8-10; 1 John 3:23). I already explained about the Sabbath (which was a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ - Colossians 2:16-17) in post #127.
Salvation is not by "grace plus law, faith plus works" which is a "different" gospel (Galatians 1:6-9).
I don't turn the letter of the law under the Old Covenant into a legalistic prescription for Christians under the New Covenant and I certainly don't believe that Jesus is lawless (Romans 13:8-10; 1 John 3:23). I already explained about the Sabbath (which was a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ - Colossians 2:16-17) in post #127.
Salvation is not by "grace plus law, faith plus works" which is a "different" gospel (Galatians 1:6-9).
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If your not healed, your not saved, and your not going to heaven. Your bound to the law. And you better be perfect.
Jesus said we are completely clean. paul said we are saved by the washing of the HS, the term justification states that we are completely healed. Paul said in collossians 2 that that which made us sick was nailed to the cross.
again I ask, why do you use the X-ray to heal you. And not use the physician?
Hmmm now are you sure you do not disregard God's 10 Commandments, MMD?
Yet here you are disregarding the 4th Commandment? God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) and you disregard it in order you follow your Chatholic traditions.
If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
You do indeed disregard God's LAW because it is not in your heart.
Only God's Word is true and we should believe and follow him who calls us in LOVE to LOVE another...
Yet here you are disregarding the 4th Commandment? God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) and you disregard it in order you follow your Chatholic traditions.
If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
You do indeed disregard God's LAW because it is not in your heart.
Only God's Word is true and we should believe and follow him who calls us in LOVE to LOVE another...
we are not saved by keeping the Law. we are saved by grace, through faith, for good works. not by keeping a day.
the Gospel is - believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved. I even gave you the greek word and definition yesterday, in your main sda propaganda thread. I pointed out that Sabbath was nowhere to be found in the Gospel.
you claimed not to understand, and never responded. so, if you choose to be willfully blind to truth, well that is a sad choice, but you are free to do so. hopefully one day you will not.
the Gospel is - believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved. I even gave you the greek word and definition yesterday, in your main sda propaganda thread. I pointed out that Sabbath was nowhere to be found in the Gospel.
you claimed not to understand, and never responded. so, if you choose to be willfully blind to truth, well that is a sad choice, but you are free to do so. hopefully one day you will not.
Romans 7:7-13 NASBS
[7] What shall we say then? Is the Law sin? May it never be! On the contrary, I would not have come to know sin except through the Law; for I would not have known about coveting if the Law had not said, "You SHALL NOT COVET." [8] But sin, taking opportunity through the commandment, produced in me coveting of every kind; for apart from the Law sin is dead. [9] I was once alive apart from the Law; but when the commandment came, sin became alive and I died;
[10] and this commandment, which was to result in life, proved to result in death for me; [11] for sin, taking an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and through it killed me. [12] So then, the Law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good. [13] Therefore did that which is good become a cause of death for me? May it never be! Rather it was sin, in order that it might be shown to be sin by effecting my death through that which is good, so that through the commandment sin would become utterly sinful.
[7] What shall we say then? Is the Law sin? May it never be! On the contrary, I would not have come to know sin except through the Law; for I would not have known about coveting if the Law had not said, "You SHALL NOT COVET." [8] But sin, taking opportunity through the commandment, produced in me coveting of every kind; for apart from the Law sin is dead. [9] I was once alive apart from the Law; but when the commandment came, sin became alive and I died;
[10] and this commandment, which was to result in life, proved to result in death for me; [11] for sin, taking an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and through it killed me. [12] So then, the Law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good. [13] Therefore did that which is good become a cause of death for me? May it never be! Rather it was sin, in order that it might be shown to be sin by effecting my death through that which is good, so that through the commandment sin would become utterly sinful.
Who said we are saved by keeping God's LAW? I do not know of anyone saying this. Only those say this that think there is no law. We are only saved by GRACE through FAITH and not of ourselves it is God's GIFT and not of WORKS lest anyman should boast.
However if your FAITH does not have the FRUIT of OBEDIENCE to God's LAW then you are still in your SINS (breaking God's LAW) because you have rejected the GIFT of God's dear son and do not KNOW him who calls you in LOVE to LOVE another. (James 2:18; 20; 26; 1 John 3:3-9)
SIN (breaking God's LAW) will keep all who practice it OUT of God's KINGDOM.
How can you know the Word of God if you do not KNOW what the Gospel is? What does it mean to BELIEVE on the Lord Jesus Christ? The devils believe are they saved?
It is not the hearers of the Word that are justified
Romans 2
13, For NOT THE HEARERS OF THE LAW ARE JUST BEFORE GOD, BUT THE DOERS OF THE LAW SHALL BE JUSTIFIED.
James 1
22, But BE YOU DOERS OF THE WORD, AND NOT HEARERS ONLY DECIEVING YOUTR OWN SELVES
Romans 1
5, By whom we have received GRACE and apostleship, FOR OBEDIENCE TO THE FAITH among all nations, for his name:
Romans 3
31, Do we then make void the law through faith? GOD FORBID: YES, WE ESTABLISH THE LAW.
Yep alot of scripture that disagree with those promoting a form of Godliness but denying the POWER thereof.
These people will say to Jesus; Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in your name? and in your name have cast out devils? and in your name done many wonderful works? Jesus will say; I never KNEW you DEPART FROM ME YOU WHO PRACTICE SIN (Matthew 7:12-23)
For those that have ears to hear let him hear what the spirit says... The stone you builders have rejected has become the head of the corner. God's Word that will be your judge come judgment day. Only those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW the Word of God are his people. UNBELIEVERS have no part in the KINGDOM of heaven.
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In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
May God bless you as you seek him through His Word.
However if your FAITH does not have the FRUIT of OBEDIENCE to God's LAW then you are still in your SINS (breaking God's LAW) because you have rejected the GIFT of God's dear son and do not KNOW him who calls you in LOVE to LOVE another. (James 2:18; 20; 26; 1 John 3:3-9)
SIN (breaking God's LAW) will keep all who practice it OUT of God's KINGDOM.
How can you know the Word of God if you do not KNOW what the Gospel is? What does it mean to BELIEVE on the Lord Jesus Christ? The devils believe are they saved?
It is not the hearers of the Word that are justified
Romans 2
13, For NOT THE HEARERS OF THE LAW ARE JUST BEFORE GOD, BUT THE DOERS OF THE LAW SHALL BE JUSTIFIED.
James 1
22, But BE YOU DOERS OF THE WORD, AND NOT HEARERS ONLY DECIEVING YOUTR OWN SELVES
Romans 1
5, By whom we have received GRACE and apostleship, FOR OBEDIENCE TO THE FAITH among all nations, for his name:
Romans 3
31, Do we then make void the law through faith? GOD FORBID: YES, WE ESTABLISH THE LAW.
Yep alot of scripture that disagree with those promoting a form of Godliness but denying the POWER thereof.
These people will say to Jesus; Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in your name? and in your name have cast out devils? and in your name done many wonderful works? Jesus will say; I never KNEW you DEPART FROM ME YOU WHO PRACTICE SIN (Matthew 7:12-23)
For those that have ears to hear let him hear what the spirit says... The stone you builders have rejected has become the head of the corner. God's Word that will be your judge come judgment day. Only those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW the Word of God are his people. UNBELIEVERS have no part in the KINGDOM of heaven.
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In times of ignorance God winks at but now ,<when a KNOWLEDGE of the truth has come> calls all men everywhere to REPENT (FOLLOW) (Acts 17:30-31).
There is not one scripture in all of God's Word that says that God's 4th Commandment is now ABOLISHED and we are now commanded to KEEP Sunday as a Holy day.
God's 4th commandment is one of the ten (Exodus 20:8-11) If we knowingly break it when God asks us not to we stand guilty before God of committing sin (James 2:8-12). If we do not seek him in repentance and forgiveness we are in danger of the Judgement (Hebrews 10:26-27)
Sunday worship is a tradition and teaching of man that has lead many to break the commandments of God. Jesus says that if we follow the traditions of man that break the commandments of God we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
Who should we follow the teachings and traditions of men or the Word of God? Who should we believe the Words of men or the Word of God?
May God bless you as you seek him through His Word.
