7 day creation (Genesis)

[Nehemiah6]

Its not a quotation of God. Its a story told by a writer.

You really think some "writer" could have conjured up the creation account (just like the myths and fables of other lands) and Christ would deem it as inspired by God?

If God inspired today´s scientist to write the Genesis account, different words would be used.

Since scientists are not prophets, why would God do something like this? And why are you not satisfied with what has been revealed?

 

[hunterpoet]

It does matter since the Bible says God created things (earth, moon, planets, plants, animals, man) fully formed not all evolving over time from ooze.

I apologize for the confusion. Embracing the ooze hypothesis would be the " crisis of faith ". Also I would point out that most refer to the creation of the universe as being created from nothing, not ooze, including the secularists.
Ignoring the argument and concentrating on the end result is just one way of derailing the argument and hopefully affording an opportunity to witness.

 

[DevotiontoBible]

I apologize for the confusion. Embracing the ooze hypothesis would be the " crisis of faith ". Also I would point out that most refer to the creation of the universe as being created from nothing, not ooze, including the secularists.
Ignoring the argument and concentrating on the end result is just one way of derailing the argument and hopefully affording an opportunity to witness.

But if in their mind they are trusting in a son of apes to save them then are you really sharing the Gospel with them?

 

[MarcR]

Paul said "We are fools for Christ's sake" but many Christians in this day and age do not wish to identify with that. The evolutionists have so totally overwhelmed all branches of modern knowledge that at least some Christians decided to surrender to their "superior wisdom". Some accepted the nonsense of evolution outright while others began to believe in Theistic Evolution. Those who did not wish to go that far postulated the Gap Theory, which would nicely accommodate those millions and billions of years for man to evolve (presumably from monkeys). Then we have the Day-Age proponents who can make Scripture say whatever they want it to say.

Nonetheless, for Christians the Bible is sufficient, and the creation account in Genesis 1 and 2 is what God has revealed -- the whole universe was created in six literal 24-hour days. And God rested on the seventh day having seen that everything He made and created was "very good" (perfect).

Your post correctly describes some peoples mindset. The Hebrew language suggests the 'gap theory'! I could care less about 'scientific' dating. God's word stands on its own merit. I believe in a miraculous God who does miraculous things that science can't begin to account for. I have NO DESIRE to conform top an evolutionary mindset or world view. I believe in either a gap between Gen 1:1 and 1:2 or between gen 1:2 and 1:3 or both; ONLY because reading Genesis chapters one and two in Hebrew suggests such a gap or gaps. The narrative seems more like re-creation than original creation.

 

[hunterpoet]

But if in their ind they are trusting in a son of apes to save them then are you really sharing the Gospel with them?

Not sure how the discussion of creation of the universe jumped to evolution. For any believer to embrace evolution it still would be a crisis of faith. So in witnessing to a believer in a crisis of faith, I believe you would still have to concentrate on the end result. That being salvation, indwelling of the Holy Spirit, sanctification and faith and trust in God.

 

[DevotiontoBible]

Not sure how the discussion of creation of the universe jumped to evolution. For any believer to embrace evolution it still would be a crisis of faith. So in witnessing to a believer in a crisis of faith, I believe you would still have to concentrate on the end result. That being salvation, indwelling of the Holy Spirit, sanctification and faith and trust in God.

So, you are saying it is okay for people to believe this as long as you focus on the end result?:
“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Apes in heaven. And then all the apes of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Apes coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.
Matthew 24:30 NIV
https://bible.com/bible/111/mat.24.30.NIV

 

[hunterpoet]

So, you are saying it is okay for people to believe this as long as you focus on the end result?:
“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Apes in heaven. And then all the apes of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Apes coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.
Matthew 24:30 NIV
https://bible.com/bible/111/mat.24.30.NIV

No, I did not say, it is ok for believers to believe in evolution. What I will say is that it is unproductive to argue or debate this subject. So I'm suggesting that the argument be set aside. Remember, a believer embracing any false doctrine is in a crisis of faith. I think it more productive for them to be guided back to why they embraced Jesus in the first place. They trusted Jesus for their salvation, they need to trust Him that He is telling the truth about everything else in the bible. I do not believe this can be accomplished by arguing the subject. It's about trusting God, walking with God , believing God. It's about learning how to strengthen their faith through study, prayer and communion with God. Derail the silly " what if " arguments and concentrate on what is really important for a believer.

 

[jimd]

No, it really does not matter because it is not an issue of salvation. If it strengthens your faith to believe it was 7 days, great, If you believe it was 7 ages or a gap, then that's fine also. It is interesting to note the Hebrew word for day is the same word for age. Its also interesting to note according to the book of Hebrew chapter 3 &4 the 7th day continues too today.