Gods Sabbath should be kept EVERY DAY!

Ariel82 · Mar 21, 2018

Psalm 113
Praise the Lord!
Praise, O servants of the Lord,
praise the name of the Lord!

2 Blessed be the name of the Lord
from this time forth and forevermore!
3 From the rising of the sun to its setting,
the name of the Lord is to be praised!

4 The Lord is high above all nations,
and his glory above the heavens!
5 Who is like the Lord our God,
who is seated on high,
6 who looks far down
on the heavens and the earth?
7 He raises the poor from the dust
and lifts the needy from the ash heap,
8 to make them sit with princes,
with the princes of his people.
9 He gives the barren woman a home,
making her the joyous mother of children.
Praise the Lord!

*****

This clearly shows we should worship God every day.,,,not just one day a week.

prove-all · Mar 21, 2018

Ariel82 said:

Why then should anyone post? Sounds like you would not listen to
others anyway, because they just don't see like you do.

What if someone has a demanding job, like running heavy equipment?
To make a living, I would have to focus on doing the job at hand,
or you could have an accident, or even kill someone. Do you agree?

Yes I could too, but God says we should work other days to make a living.
If a husband does not provide for his household, it is worse then no faith at all.
The 7th day was holy, but it also says to work the other 6 days. Do you agree?

Most of the working world works Monday to Friday, with 2 days in between.
most will party Friday night[t.g.i.f.], and spend Saturday doing there own things,
then some , or most will rest on Sunday or even go to church. Do you agree?

Does anyone think this is odd? one day that Christ upheld,
but the other day a man made worship.

The bible says the whole world is deceived by the Devil, think about that.
Would you agree with the Pope, to demand a Sunday rest for the whole of Europe?

Ariel82 · Mar 21, 2018

prove-all said:

I do listen to what people say, but if they don't listen or understand what i have already said....then it gets tiring to repeat over and over again.

Yes you should focus on the job at hand....if you noticed I said I spent 30 minutes a day worshipping God.

The point I was making us that it's okay and acceptable to do work on the Sabbath if you are doing it for God.

Do you agree or disagree?

The next point is that God says we should do all work (even if we have jobs we hate) as if we are working for God and not man...,.we should do our best no matter how we feel about our boss.

My conclusion is that we can thus say we do all work for God and still keep the Sabbath...if we view the work we do as something we do for God. Or even our family out of love.

I understand that some people don't even keep one day of the week holy, so how can they keep every day Holy?

Truthfully I don't know the answer to that.

If you don't keep even one day Holy unto God, if you don't seek God's will instead of your own, if you don't seek rest in Christ Jesus......then something is wrong with your relationship with God.

All I can do is pray for such people and tell them God loves them enough to want them to be like Mary some days and not always like Martha. Encourage them to just sit at His feet and rest. God wants our presence more then our presents.

prove-all · Mar 21, 2018

Ariel82 said:

Yes there is many Sabbath in the bible, but still only one 7th day of the week Sabbath.
Still waiting for you to answer, and show what they are, and what they really mean.

This one is called [a land Sabbath]. God knew what He was doing, Man ignores God.
Today's farming does not give the land a rest, now we have compost depleted soils, that
can only grow something with chemicals added, and water just runs down into the streams.

The 7th day pictures the future time Christ , at his coming gives us the rest he promised us.
Why did God say even the animals deserved a rest once a week? spiritual?

-Today the bible says what we are given to be, not current priests, but he said:

And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets,
some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers..

-The bible says We will be Kings and Priests in the future.

Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection.
Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be
priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.

And have made us kings and priests to our God;
And we shall reign on the earth.”

But others say Christ is ruling the heads of nations his ways now.
Do you agree with the Cathloc Church that we rule Gods kingdom now?

12He said therefore, A certain nobleman [Christ]went into a
far country[heaven] to receive for himself a kingdom[crowned],
and to return[to earth].

Christ said "I will come again"

17 And he said unto him, Well, thou good servant: because thou hast
been faithful in a very little, have thou [authority over ten cities].
18 And the second came, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained five pounds.
19 And he said likewise to him, Be thou also [over five cities].

Are you also a King ruling over 5 or 10 cities now ?

Studyman · Mar 21, 2018

Absolutely,

There was a time when the old priesthood required ceremonial, sacrificial "works of the Law" for remission of sins, (Given by Jesus to Moses). But as Jesus told us in Jeremiah 31, that time would come to an end. Unfortunately the Mainstream Preachers of Paul's time were still pushing their version of these Levitical Priesthood "Works of the Law" for justification or remission of sins. These Jews were "bewitching" the Galatians with these religious traditions they called "The Law of Moses".

It was these Jews Paul was addressing.

16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

I don't believe that I need to follow these, or any religious man's instructions or traditions for remission of sins. Abraham trusted Jesus enough to obey His Instructions, and this was called "Faith". I am to have "The Faith of Abraham".

16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law (Levitical Priesthood Abraham didn't have), but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,

I do Ariel, I believe in all the Word's of my Savior. Didn't Jesus say the exact same thing in Duet. 30?

Duet. 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I (Jesus) have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
20 That thou mayest love the LORD thy God,(Jesus) and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.

Do you believe in this same Jesus, or do you believe the Jesus in the New Testament that said He is our LIFE, is a different Jesus that said He is our LIFE in Deut. 30?

Thank you for the reply and question.

Ariel82 · Mar 21, 2018

Jesus tells us that we are currently priests and ambassadors for Him

1 Peter 2:9 ►
New International Version
But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God's special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.

New Living Translation
But you are not like that, for you are a chosen people. You are royal priests, a holy nation, God's very own possession. As a result, you can show others the goodness of God, for he called you out of the darkness into his wonderful light.

English Standard Version
But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.

Berean Study Bible
But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God's own possession, to proclaim the virtues of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light.

Berean Literal Bible
But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for His possession, so that you may proclaim the excellencies of the One having called you out of darkness into His marvelous light,

New American Standard Bible
But you are A CHOSEN RACE, A royal PRIESTHOOD, A HOLY NATION, A PEOPLE FOR God's OWN POSSESSION, so that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;

King James Bible
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

Ariel82 · Mar 21, 2018

1 Corinthians 5
16From now on, therefore, we regard no one according to the flesh. Even though we once regarded Christ according to the flesh, we regard him thus no longer. 17Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation.b The old has passed away; behold, the new has come. 18All this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to himself and gave us the ministry of reconciliation; 19that is, in Christ God was reconcilingc the world to himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and entrusting to us the message of reconciliation. 20Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, God making his appeal through us. We implore you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God. 21For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

Ariel82 · Mar 21, 2018

1 Corinthians 6:19 ►
New International Version
Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own;

Studyman · Mar 21, 2018

Ariel82 said:

I agree. But I might add that, according to the Jesus of the Bible, there is only one way to receive the "Spirit of Truth" so as to know the difference between good and evil..

15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

And again;

21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

WE see the stark examples of this Biblical truth through out the Bible, especially the Mainstream Preachers of Jesus' Time.

All to say that the "Oracles of God" are how we know what is "good" and what is "evil" according to God and not man.

And this knowledge is given to those who choose, not the religion traditions of man, as did the Pharisees, but choose life as described by the Almighty God who became flesh to remove my past sins and give me a NEW Clean slate to Serve Him in His described Holiness and His Grace, not my own.

Thanks for the reply :^)

Ariel82 · Mar 21, 2018

I believe God is the same in the Old and New testament.

However I believe the land covenant and the covenant established on Mount Sinai were for the Jewish nation only and the New Covenant is totally different, even though the old covenant foreshadowed many spiritual truths found in the New Covenant....such as Passover and Manna.

I believe there is a difference between the illegitimate children of Hagar and the legitimate heirs of the Promise Seed.

Ariel82 · Mar 21, 2018

Faith in Jesus is the only way to receive the Holy spirit.

prove-all · Mar 21, 2018

No one can come to Me [unless the Father] who sent Me draws him;
and I will raise him up at the last day.

All that the Father gives Me will come to Me,
and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out.

Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life.
No one comes to the Father except through Me.

Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized
in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins;
and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from
the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins,
and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

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Also : A "Holy Nation " will be born at once, on a day, or in a moment,
in the twinkling of an eye, at Christs second coming.
We are begotten, an heir not yet to inherited the promises.

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Job 31:2 (KJV)
For what portion of God is there from above?
and what inheritance of the Almighty from on high?

Psalms 127:3 (KJV)
Lo, children are an heritage of the Lord:
and the fruit of the womb is his reward.

Psalms 33:12 (KJV)
Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord; and the people
whom he hath chosen for [his own inheritance].

1 Kings 8:51 (KJV)
For they be thy people, and thine inheritance, which thou broughtest
forth out of Egypt, from the midst of the furnace of iron:

Deuteronomy 32:9 (KJV)
For the Lord's portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance.

Jeremiah 10:16 (KJV)
The portion of Jacob is not like them: for he is the former of all things;
and Israel is the rod of his inheritance: The Lord of hosts is his name.

Psalms 94:14 (KJV)
For the Lord will not cast off his people, neither will he forsake his inheritance.

Ezekiel 22:16 (KJV)
And thou shalt take thine inheritance in thyself in the sight of the heathen,
and thou shalt know that I am the Lord.

Psalms 79:1 (KJV)
O God, the heathen are come into thine inheritance;
thy holy temple have they defiled; they have laid Jerusalem on heaps.

Ariel82 · Mar 21, 2018

prove-all said:

Maybe not all the promises, but more than most people realize.

I have to go pick up my daughter from school and head to church.

Are you a part of God's kingdom now?

Are you one of His ambassadors?

Are you one of His priests?

Do you speak as an Oracle of God?

Is your body a holy temple?

We will be resurrected with new bodies at Christ second coming, but we already have the firsrfruit of the Spirit.

posthuman · Mar 21, 2018

lightbearer said:

similarly when the Spirit says "you are not under law, but grace" you would think that if you are correct, He would have said "you are not under some of the Law but definitely under the 10 commandments, and various other parts of the Law like no tattoos and and love your neighbor and do not vote democrat, and also grace, sort of, but not really because you are actually under Law - in fact not under grace at all because if by works, grace is no longer grace - yes you are actually under Law, forget i said anything about grace"

but that's not what the scripture says. it says put away the slave woman, because you are sons of freedom.

posthuman · Mar 21, 2018

it's as though the salvation of God is almost unbelievably good!

Studyman · Mar 21, 2018

Ariel82 said:

1 Pet. 1:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
32
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

I know that every person who ever considered themselves "Christians" will say what you just said. But we know that "many", even though they claim belief, Jesus doesn't know them.

We know that "Many" will come in His Name, teaching that He is truly the Christ, and that they, not Jews, not Islam, not Atheists, but those who come in Christ's Name, will deceive many. To reject this Biblical fact, is to reject the Word's of Jesus Himself. So if you want to preach that He changed His Commandment that He said was "made for man", from the 7th day of the week to every day of the week, you are free to do so.

But the evidence against this preaching is over whelming and as much as I would like to make friends and get along, I can't accept what has not been taught in the Bible.

You may be right, maybe God granted you the power to change His word, make a New Covenant that was more than a change in the Priesthood as He said. After all, it's just a Book.

But I have already submitted to His Sabbath for 25 years. I know of the rest He is speaking to. I understand why Jesus created it, what He has done for me through it.

I have tasted the graciousness of the Lord. I don't want to follow another Jesus.

posthuman · Mar 21, 2018

lightbearer said:

suppose you are a largely illiterate person in a country where there is no strong Jewish influence, and you hear and receive the gospel of Christ. you have His perfect commands, love the Lord God and love one another as He has loved you.
from these, and these alone, as they are the foundation, you should be able to fulfill every part of the righteousness of Moses' law - though you know nothing about Deuteronomy or Leviticus.

it is easy to see how from love, you will not murder, you will not bear false witness, even you will not covet when love is perfected in you. from love you will honor your parents.

what is not easy to see is how you will ever possibly arrive at setting aside one day a week to not do physical work, not to travel, not to buy or sell, not to kindle fire. purely from love for God and for others, without knowledge of what was commanded to Israel at the giving of the covenant at Sinai. how you will ever arrive purely on the basis of love at choosing to do this for a 24 hour period every 7 days and in particular to arrive at saturday to do this??

what you will arrive at purely from love is to cease from your own labors and follow after God's work, and without someone telling you specifically "this is the Law He gave to Israel, before the Messiah came" you will not arrive at "i should consider one day a week special somehow" -- purely from love. will you?

does anyone disagree?
please explain to me how anyone will ever arrive at the rigorous physical observance of sabbath after the manner of the Law of Moses from love, without being specifically instructed to keep a day and to keep it in this specific way.

so i will obey, when it says do not judge, and do not allow yourself to be judged. if a person wants to honor the day in the way it was honored before Christ was revealed, i do not condemn them, they do so to God. if a person sees every day alike in Christ, i do not condemn them, they do so to God. i do not 'teach against sabbath' as i've often been falsely accused by the priests & priestess of EGW here lately; if i teach at all, i teach obedience to the cross.

Ariel82 · Mar 21, 2018

I reread all of 1 Peter....can you show me in that book were it states we are to keep a weekly Sabbath and if it does How do we keep it?

Or does Peter instructs us how to live holy lives EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK?

It does after all tell us how we are priests of the New Covenant.

Studyman · Mar 21, 2018

Ariel82 said:

I think where we differ is the belief that the Levitical Priesthood, which were specifically given to the Levites, is the same as the "Law of Faith" Paul speaks of. That is the differing covenants. It has to do with justification or remission of sins.

It was "ADDED" to an existing Law as Paul describes in Gal. 3:19. It was the "Law of Works" Paul speaks of in Romans and Galatians. I believe modern Christianity has been deceived in believing that there is no difference between the two Laws. That the "Law of Works" (Levitical Priesthood sacrificial, ceremonial "Works of the Law" for remission of sins) is the same as the "Law of Faith" that Abraham obeyed. "5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws."

So the Covenant deals with how God's Instructions are administered and how sins are forgiven. The Old Covent was the Levitical Priesthood which was changed to a New Covenant where the High Priest uses His own Blood for the forgiveness of sins, and not the ceremonial, sacrificial "Works of the Law", and imprints on our own hearts the Word's of God so we don't have to rely on carnal man for our knowledge.

This didn't change the instructions of God as "Many" who come in Christ's name preaches, rather, it changed the manner in which God's Laws are administered, and how sins were forgiven. This Biblical truth has been symbolized by several scriptures.

Ex. 34:1 And the LORD said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables, which thou brakest. Different tables, same Words.

And again in Jonah 1:1 Now the word of the LORD came unto Jonah the son of Amittai, saying,2 Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and cry against it; for their wickedness is come up before me.

1 And the word of the LORD came unto Jonah the second time, saying,
2 Arise, go unto Nineveh, that great city, and preach unto it the preaching that I bid thee.

The message from God is perfect. Jesus didn't change what was already perfect. Man does, the serpent does, deceivers do, but Jesus never did anywhere in His Word.

We are all born into a religion which transgresses the commandments of God by man made traditions. WE all have to choose between the two. It is a difficult choice and most people will choose their religious traditions over the Word's and instructions of the Christ. This isn't from my mind, Jesus tells us all these things.

The more I am on this forum, the more apparent it is me how important it is to stick to the Word. I know you mean well, but I also know you are in error regarding what the New Covenant is, at least according to the Word of God I have presented.

I thank you for the reply and the discussion. I am learning on how to just agree to disagree. I need to keep in mind that I am a nobody, a list of letters printed on a piece of paper. It is the Christ in His great mercy that opens the eyes.

Ariel82 · Mar 21, 2018

I agree that we disagree on what the New Covenant actually entitles and what the Law of the Spirit is versus what the Law of Sin and death is.

However that is another topic.....

.how does it relate to keeping God's Sabbath Holy and why you believe you can't keep every day Holy unto God?

Gods Sabbath should be kept EVERY DAY!

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