Gods Sabbath should be kept EVERY DAY!

[Studyman]

wow TREMENDOUS logical leap you just took!!
also known as a "non-sequitur"


did Abel also wear tzitzit and keep Passover? was he circumcised and did he tithe to Levi?

i have read of a righteousness that does not come through works. must not be the one you're thinking of.

Abel was most certainly circumcised of the heart, he most certainly followed God's instructions which is the Spiritual intent of the tzitzit , His sins were most certainly cleansed by the blood of Jesus and Levi wasn't even born yet, so there was no "Law of Works" that was "ADDED" until the seed should come, just like Abraham didn't have the Levitical Priesthood "works of the Law" for remission of sins.

these were considered righteous because they trusted in God enough to follow His Instructions. This is called "Faith".

4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

I read somewhere that it is impossible to please God without this "Faith" of Able and Abraham. You must be speaking of a different faith.

 

[Studyman]

God's presence is the Holy spirit living in the hearts of His people making our bodies Holy tabernacle.....thus we should worship God every day and keep our lives set apart and dedicated unto God, praying without ceasing.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

God shows us in His Word how to worship Him. "MANY" worship Him, but He doesn't know them because they were doing something in their worship that corrupted them.

Could preaching that there is no difference between His Sanctified, set apart, and Holy Sabbath, and the other 6 days a week be considered "iniquity"? It is a valid question.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Some people just don't seem to get that the gospel is not about earthly things like sabbaths. Paul was concerned that he had wasted his efforts over people who obsessed about such temporal things.

You observe days and months and seasons and years. I am afraid I may have labored over you in vain. Galatians 4:10-11​

 

[Studyman]

God created the Sabbath so men might rest from their labors as He rested from His.

Do you agree or disagree?

Jesus created the week, all 7 days. He instructed us to do "Our Work" 6 days a week. And to treat the 7th day differently, not the same.

I am not judging, just sharing what the Word actually says. Is the above not true?

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

God shows us in His Word how to worship Him. "MANY" worship Him, but He doesn't know them because they were doing something in their worship that corrupted them.

Could preaching that there is no difference between His Sanctified, set apart, and Holy Sabbath, and the other 6 days a week be considered "iniquity"? It is a valid question.

Nowhere in the 4th commandment is anything said about worship. It commands cessation from labor, that is all.

 

[Studyman]

"And on the seventh day God rested from all His works"

"Behold, I will do a new thing;
now it shall spring forth; shall ye not know it?"

"if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away;
behold, all things are become new"
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which day is it that He creates me, a new creature?

"God again designated a certain day as 'Today'"​

Yes, "Today" if we hear His Voice, harden not our hearts like we did before. We are a new creature who listens and obeys the creator, not listen and rebel against the Word's of the creator as we did before.

It isn't God who needs to repent, or God's Righteous instructions that have changed, it is us who needs to repent and change.

1 Pet. 1:13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
14 As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:
15 But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;
16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.

 

[Ariel82]

I have answered a lot of your questions with scripture but you seem unable to hear. I'll wait till you answer.
Sabbath on it's own is Rest...but we are talking DAY which is Holy time to GOD...I don't think that means we just sleep and rest IN HIS PRESENCE. If that is your understanding I am talking to someone asleep...not much point !

1 Thessalonians 5:16-18 English Standard Version (ESV)
16 Rejoice always, 17 pray without ceasing, 18 give thanks in all circumstances; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.

 

[Studyman]

"each should be fully persuaded in their own mind"
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i do not believe we should be judging anyone either because they observe sabbath according to Moses or because they do not. all we are doing is attempting to destroy one another's faith.

we might try we might try lifting Christ up, as the brazen serpent was, instead of quibbling over words and endlessly arguing over law. pretty sure there happen to be NT scriptures about that.

[HR][/HR][HR][/HR]
. . so what exactly has He done so that it is possible we may be counted righteous apart from works of the Law, on the basis of belief? if not one jot or tittle of the Sinai covenant is removed how exactly are we made clean without the ashes of a red heifer?

Matt. 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.5
For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

For me, it's not about this day or that. It's about what the Word's of the Bible mean when they are ALL considered. It's about discerning religious traditions to know if they come from the Mouth of the Christ who created "ALL Things", or from the mouth of man who satan uses to deceive.

 

[Studyman]

Sure and notice in verse 2 who is being addressed — “Speak to the entire assembly of Israel and say to them..”

Ex. 12:49 One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

 

[Ariel82]

Matthew 6:9-13 – "In this manner, therefore, pray: Our Father in heaven, Hallowed be Your name. Your kingdom come. Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. And do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen."

 

[Ariel82]

Galatians 1:10
For am I now seeking the approval of man, or of God? Or am I trying to please man? If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of Christ.

Matthew 22:37
And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.

Romans 14:8
For if we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord. So then, whether we live or whether we die, we are the Lord’s.

 

[Ariel82]

Colossians 3:23
Whatever you do, work heartily, as for the Lord and not for men,

Mark 16:15
And he said to them, “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation.

 

[Studyman]

Leviticus 19

Leviticus 19 New International Version (NIV)
Various Laws
19 The Lord said to Moses, 2 “Speak to the entire assembly of Israel and say to them: ‘Be holy because I, the Lord your God, am holy.

3 “‘Each of you must respect your mother and father, and you must observe my Sabbaths. I am the Lord your God.

4 “‘Do not turn to idols or make metal gods for yourselves. I am the Lord your God.

5 “‘When you sacrifice a fellowship offering to the Lord, sacrifice it in such a way that it will be accepted on your behalf. 6 It shall be eaten on the day you sacrifice it or on the next day; anything left over until the third day must be burned up. 7 If any of it is eaten on the third day, it is impure and will not be accepted. 8 Whoever eats it will be held responsible because they have desecrated what is holy to the Lord; they must be cut off from their people.

9 “‘When you reap the harvest of your land, do not reap to the very edges of your field or gather the gleanings of your harvest. 10 Do not go over your vineyard a second time or pick up the grapes that have fallen. Leave them for the poor and the foreigner. I am the Lord your God.

11 “‘Do not steal.

“‘Do not lie.

“‘Do not deceive one another.

12 “‘Do not swear falsely by my name and so profane the name of your God. I am the Lord.

13 “‘Do not defraud or rob your neighbor.

“‘Do not hold back the wages of a hired worker overnight.

14 “‘Do not curse the deaf or put a stumbling block in front of the blind, but fear your God. I am the Lord.

15 “‘Do not pervert justice; do not show partiality to the poor or favoritism to the great, but judge your neighbor fairly.

16 “‘Do not go about spreading slander among your people.

“‘Do not do anything that endangers your neighbor’s life. I am the Lord.

17 “‘Do not hate a fellow Israelite in your heart. Rebuke your neighbor frankly so you will not share in their guilt.

18 “‘Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against anyone among your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the Lord.

19 “‘Keep my decrees.

“‘Do not mate different kinds of animals.

“‘Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed.

“‘Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.

20 “‘If a man sleeps with a female slave who is promised to another man but who has not been ransomed or given her freedom, there must be due punishment.[a] Yet they are not to be put to death, because she had not been freed. 21 The man, however, must bring a ram to the entrance to the tent of meeting for a guilt offering to the Lord. 22 With the ram of the guilt offering the priest is to make atonement for him before the Lord for the sin he has committed, and his sin will be forgiven.

23 “‘When you enter the land and plant any kind of fruit tree, regard its fruit as forbidden. For three years you are to consider it forbidden[c]; it must not be eaten. 24 In the fourth year all its fruit will be holy, an offering of praise to the Lord. 25 But in the fifth year you may eat its fruit. In this way your harvest will be increased. I am the Lord your God.

26 “‘Do not eat any meat with the blood still in it.

“‘Do not practice divination or seek omens.

27 “‘Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard.

28 “‘Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the Lord.

29 “‘Do not degrade your daughter by making her a prostitute, or the land will turn to prostitution and be filled with wickedness.

30 “‘Observe my Sabbaths and have reverence for my sanctuary. I am the Lord.

31 “‘Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them. I am the Lord your God.

32 “‘Stand up in the presence of the aged, show respect for the elderly and revere your God. I am the Lord.

33 “‘When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. 34 The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God.

35 “‘Do not use dishonest standards when measuring length, weight or quantity. 36 Use honest scales and honest weights, an honest ephah[d] and an honest hin.[e] I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt.

37 “‘Keep all my decrees and all my laws and follow them. I am the Lord.’”

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How do we decide what to honor and what to discard?

Some of them make a lot of sense but I know folks don't follow...like trimming you beard or wearing clothes with mixed fibers..,

They all have some Spiritual significance, Yes? Should I reject some of them just because He has not revealed to me what the spiritual significance is? Is there not "Milk of the Word" for the young, and later, when we have grown Spiritually, comes the "Meat of the Word".

Isn't every verse in this chapter instructions on how to keep the First and Greatest commandment, as well as the second one that is like it?

 

[Ariel82]

Galatians 2:20-21 ESV
I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness were through the law, then Christ died for no purpose.


John 11:25-26 ESV
Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?”

 

[Ariel82]

They all have some Spiritual significance, Yes? Should I reject some of them just because He has not revealed to me what the spiritual significance is? Is there not "Milk of the Word" for the young, and later, when we have grown Spiritually, comes the "Meat of the Word".

Isn't every verse in this chapter instructions on how to keep the First and Greatest commandment, as well as the second one that is like it?

Some is meant to show folks their need for a savior...all are tutors leading folks to Christ.

Yes some can be understood spiritually.

.However the Meat is discerning good from evil. The milk is understanding the gospel (such as how Jesus death atoned for our sins.)

 

[Ariel82]

Psalm 19
1 The heavens declare the glory of God;
the skies proclaim the work of his hands.
2 Day after day they pour forth speech;
night after night they reveal knowledge.
3 They have no speech, they use no words;
no sound is heard from them.
4 Yet their voice goes out into all the earth,
their words to the ends of the world.
In the heavens God has pitched a tent for the sun.
5 It is like a bridegroom coming out of his chamber,
like a champion rejoicing to run his course.
6 It rises at one end of the heavens
and makes its circuit to the other;
nothing is deprived of its warmth.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Jesus created the week, all 7 days. He instructed us to do "Our Work" 6 days a week. And to treat the 7th day differently, not the same.

I am not judging, just sharing what the Word actually says. Is the above not true?

No, it's not true. He didn't instruct us, he instructed Israel through Moses to follow that law. He said that someday another prophet would come speaking new law for GOD's people to follow.

I will raise up for them a Prophet like you [Moses] from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him. And it shall be that whoever will not hear My words, which He speaks in My name, I will require it of him. . Deuteronomy 18:18-19

I [Jesus] have come in my Father’s name, and you do not accept me... John 5:43

He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him—the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day. For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak. John 12:47-49​

 

[Ariel82]

Job 41

11 Who has a claim against me that I must pay?
Everything under heaven belongs to me.

 

[Studyman]

no God rested on the Seventh day...and Jesus is Lord even on the Sabbath...not the same as making it a legal requirement to keep the Sabbath. Nor does it say HOW ONE KEEPS THE SABBATH HOLY.

You are assuming that Adam didn't know God sanctified and set apart this day in Creation. You are assuming that Abraham wasn't honoring God with reverence to His Creation in the following Word.

4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

You are assuming Jesus gave Abraham different commandments than He gave to Abraham Children. (Apart from the Law specifically given to Levi who weren't born yet in Abraham's time)

Fair enough.

Jesus is Lord of Every day and Created every day.

Absolutely, And didn't Jesus give us instruction on what to do "Every" day? And was there not to be a "separation" a "difference" between our works on 6 days, vs. our works on the 7th day?

More sabbaths in the Bible than just the weekly one. Perhaps you should study them.

Yes, but were they also to be treated "differently" than other days? "Holy Convocation", yes? Did Jesus instruct us to have "Holy Convocations" every day? Or is there a teaching He wants us to understand and remember to keep us in mind of HIS Salvation plan"? Not religious man.

except for the priests who profane it and held blameless....We are New Covenant priests and our bodies Holy tabernacle housing the Holy spirit....at least some of us are.

It was the Priests duty to "heal" on the Sabbath. Not according to the Mainstream Preachers Jesus fought against, but according to His words. This duty was not given to the rest of the people. Do you believe you can forgive sins now?

no that scripture just says that Jesus is Lord even on the Sabbath.

You can continue your wall of posts or you can have an actual conversation. Your choice

Again I did post scriptures. You just reject them.

He posted scripture as well. So do you believe the scripture you posted is tougher, more relevant, more righteous than the scriptures he posted?

Is that how as Biblical discussion is supposed to be; "My verse is tougher than your verse"?

there are relevant questions regarding your religious doctrine that "every day" is to be treated as a Sabbath. Does this teaching come from Christ, or from man?

perhaps we should study and find out what the Word says regarding this doctrine.

 

[Ariel82]

God also told folks to sacrifice animals for sin atonement, Jesus changed that.

Jesus also established what it means to truly keep the Sabbath in God. He tells us how we rest in Him.