Where did different races come from?

[Kavik]

Well, after looking at this in more detail – I can see where arguments could be made for both.

From a literary point of view, the stylistic differences between chapters 1 and 2 seem to suggest different authors; however, a closer analysis of the actual grammar, as a few people have pointed out, provides for a single authorship.

I get where it’s one account grammatically; but I have to admit, stylistically I’m having a hard time not seeing two complementary accounts somewhere in the very distant past.

That said, not to get off on a tangent, I still stand by post #21 – these are creation stories and are not meant to be as literal as people take them.

 

[trofimus]

I agree with you; but what you say seems to support my statement.

If you believe that Flood was 4000 years ago, its impossible for such amount of species variations we see today to develop.

Evolution is much much slower... so... I do not know, if it supports your statement. Unless you believe that Flood was in more distant past...?

 

[Nehemiah6]

That said, not to get off on a tangent, I still stand by post #21 – these are creation stories and are not meant to be as literal as people take them.

And on whose authority do you base this erroneous conclusion? One of the Higher Critics? But the one who is higher than them -- Christ -- meant for us to take the creation account (not "story") literally, factually, and historically. Why don't you study the Gospels and then get back to us (that is if you are serious about knowing the truth)?.

 

[Locutus]

Nigeria - that's why there's scammers in every nation...

 

[Bladerunner]

I agree with you; but what you say seems to support my statement.

Hi MarcR.....Hope this finds you and yours well......

While the Bible makes it clear there are three main peoples in the world unto today.......Gentiles, Jews and the Church (Body of Christ)

It also tells us where the races come from....There are four main races and all of them can be traced back to Adam and Eve...starting with Noah and His Wife.

Noah had three sons:

Japheth went north and west into the Isles, Tarshish is one of His descendants. Tarshish was known as the British Isles (Great Britain)

Ham ( a Black Man through Historical records) went south and a little East...His son Nimrod was also BLACK. His descendants are found in Ethiopia , egypt, and Saudi Arabia, etc. where the Dark color mainly is.

Shem went east to Asia and it is said there are records that show His descendants in the Aleutian Islands and beyond. I have not seen the records so I can only speculate here. The American Indians were of Yellow-Red Skin color. Keep in mind that the land was all together until Peleg.

OK,,, So we have three Races but I said there were four...

The fourth is the Jewish People.....and they come from Shem...Shem--->Eber---->Abram---> Isaac--->Jacob (who God named Israel).

The whites by Japheth, The Black by Ham and the Asians and Jews by Shem


All of the above is backed up by God's word if you need them.......

May God Bless all on this Forum for Asking such an important question to be answered.


Blade

 

[LPT]

By design adaption, these eyes below adapted to being on the water fishermen in the pacific, the sun reflection off the pacific is the most powerful on the planet because it's the largest ocean, thus it is less stressful on the eyes if they are simi closed.

Try squinting for 15 mins without the adaption and you will soon realize just how hard it is to maintain that eye position.

 

[Bladerunner]

By design adaption, these eyes below adapted to being on the water fishermen in the pacific, the sun reflection off the pacific is the most powerful on the planet because it's the largest ocean, thus it is less stressful on the eyes if they are simi closed.

Try squinting for 15 mins without the adaption and you will soon realize just how hard it is to maintain that eye position.

Of course there have been micro-evolution throughout the world based on social, physical and mental stimuli. We see it even unto today. But to separate the Races would be like the Bacteria E-Coli ( a gram-negative enteric bacillus) changing into a formidable Staphylococcus Aureus (MRS) ( a Gram-pos Diplococci).

It is NOT going to HAPPEN


Besides,,,this was three thousand years ago and the above eyes have had plenty of time to adapt to the environment.....

But you sir seem to doubt the WORD of GOD.....It is not a good IDEA.....

Do NOT believe ME..... use ACTS 17:11 to your advantage.....SEE FOR YOURSELF!

 

[Waggles]

K...,

You need to explain your thought here.

K is a non believer
read his profile

 

[Enoch987]

If you believe that Flood was 4000 years ago, its impossible for such amount of species variations we see today to develop.

Evolution is much much slower... so... I do not know, if it supports your statement. Unless you believe that Flood was in more distant past...?

Creation scientists like Ken Ham say that if you make a table of row 1 with dominant A and B and row 2 with recessive a and b then combine the possibilities , the genetic differences show up quickly.

 

[LPT]

Of course there have been micro-evolution throughout the world based on social, physical and mental stimuli. We see it even unto today. But to separate the Races would be like the Bacteria E-Coli ( a gram-negative enteric bacillus) changing into a formidable Staphylococcus Aureus (MRS) ( a Gram-pos Diplococci).

It is NOT going to HAPPEN


Besides,,,this was three thousand years ago and the above eyes have had plenty of time to adapt to the environment.....

But you sir seem to doubt the WORD of GOD.....It is not a good IDEA.....

Do NOT believe ME..... use ACTS 17:11 to your advantage.....SEE FOR YOURSELF!

Havent a clue what your talking about, but I do know this all living creatures no matter if it is a man or animal or plant has what is called Albano's. there is more to creation than meets the Eye.

 

[LPT]

Of course there have been micro-evolution throughout the world based on social, physical and mental stimuli. We see it even unto today. But to separate the Races would be like the Bacteria E-Coli ( a gram-negative enteric bacillus) changing into a formidable Staphylococcus Aureus (MRS) ( a Gram-pos Diplococci).

It is NOT going to HAPPEN


Besides,,,this was three thousand years ago and the above eyes have had plenty of time to adapt to the environment.....

But you sir seem to doubt the WORD of GOD.....It is not a good IDEA.....

Do NOT believe ME..... use ACTS 17:11 to your advantage.....SEE FOR YOURSELF!

And I'm quite offended by what you have said (I sir seem to doubt the Word Of God), please tell me were in my post #46 I mentioned anything about doubting the word of God.

 

[Bladerunner]

Creation scientists like Ken Ham say that if you make a table of row 1 with dominant A and B and row 2 with recessive a and b then combine the possibilities , the genetic differences show up quickly.

The Bible gives us the dates of the Flood.....Methusalah had just die and the prophecy foretold of the flood at His Birth which is why he was named Methusalah. Please read the Word of GOD.....Your on the wrong track

 

[Bladerunner]

Havent a clue what your talking about, but I do know this all living creatures no matter if it is a man or animal or plant has what is called Albano's. there is more to creation than meets the Eye.

Yeah and GOD knows all about them.....Creationism cannot compete....The Bible gives us the generations of Adam and Noah which tells us the time involved. Yes, since Noah, his wife and three sons were the only True (genetics)that were given down from ADAM. What is more, at the time of Noah, a lot of let's say strange things were going on which is what caused the FLood in the first place.....

 

[LPT]

Yeah and GOD knows all about them.....Creationism cannot compete....The Bible gives us the generations of Adam and Noah which tells us the time involved. Yes, since Noah, his wife and three sons were the only True (genetics)that were given down from ADAM. What is more, at the time of Noah, a lot of let's say strange things were going on which is what caused the FLood in the first place.....

You assume assume assume, I never mentioned creationism.

and I'm not happy the posting of a bible verse on a assumption. If your going to post acts 17:11 know how to use it correctly you didn't do that here at all.

 

[Bladerunner]

You assume assume assume, I never mentioned creationism.

and I'm not happy the posting of a bible verse on a assumption. If your going to post acts 17:11 know how to use it correctly you didn't do that here at all.

(By design adaption?????)

 

[dcontroversal]

Regardless, I know where the races did not come from....We did not come from...

a. Some electrified protein filled pool of sludge
b. Some monkey named Lucy or any other type of ape, monkey, chimp, non-missing link etc...

and for sure we did not come from a dancing monkey in Bombay dancing to a street organ player with a little red hat...........

 

[kaijo]

I dont see how evolution comes into this whatsoever.
God will achieve what He wants, when He wants.

Anyway, dont forget that Noahs sons wives were most likely of races unknown to us, from before the flood.
Unknown in such a way that traces of their geneology probably ties back to the nephilim, which was the reason for the flood in the first place.

And after the flood...those genes from unknown pre-flood races probably began to emerge over the centuries post-flood.

 

[Bladerunner]

I dont see how evolution comes into this whatsoever.
God will achieve what He wants, when He wants.

Anyway, dont forget that Noahs sons wives were most likely of races unknown to us, from before the flood.
Unknown in such a way that traces of their geneology probably ties back to the nephilim, which was the reason for the flood in the first place.

And after the flood...those genes from unknown pre-flood races probably began to emerge over the centuries post-flood.

Yes, You touched on another of what I believe to be part of God's plan. The Son's wives were not Pure. This is the reason why Giants were after the flood and still are apparently. (i.e. Kandahar Giant).

If one looks like genetics, the "X" chromosome is the least distructive. While the "Y" chromosome would delegate every male to become a giant. thus the Sons were all of pure genetic makeup.

As in Noah's days, we are the same today.

 

[LPT]

(By design adaption?????)

Adaption, Evolution, Creationism, these are not the same meaning,

from dirt to a fully developed humanoid, and that is all the bible says.

your eyes will and does adapted to darkness flat out, Adaption is adjusting to an environment period.

 

[LPT]

Regardless, I know where the races did not come from....We did not come from...

a. Some electrified protein filled pool of sludge
b. Some monkey named Lucy or any other type of ape, monkey, chimp, non-missing link etc...

and for sure we did not come from a dancing monkey in Bombay dancing to a street organ player with a little red hat...........

except you came from a electrified human sludge egg in the womb of woman, well for the most part, it took the tad pole swimming up stream to complete You.