SEVEN MOUNTAINS REVISITED

[Devolution]

Revelation 17:9> And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

Revelation 13
1> And i stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
3> And i saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death, and his deadly wound was healed, and all the world wondered after the beast.

Some say the seven mountains refer to Rome. If that were so, why is only one head wounded?
Shouldn't all seven heads be wounded if indeed it were Rome? This is an anomaly and contradicts the other six heads if indeed it were speaking of Rome. For all heads should then be wounded, for Rome is one not seven. One empire under one name..not seven empires but one...Rome.
We also see that one of the heads was wounded.
Can you wound a mountain and then heal it? As though a physical mountain could be wounded or die? Mountains are ROCK. Inanimate objects.
So mountains here must be meaning something else, something symbolic. Not something geographical, but something else all together...

Again, I offer that the seven heads refers to empires. The seven mountains.
Scripture holds the answer. Jeremiah holds the key.

Jeremiah 32:24> Behold the mounts, they are come unto the city to take it, and the city is given into the hand of the Chaldeans, that fight against it, because of the sword, and of the famine, and of the pestilence, and what thou hast spoken hast come to pass, and, behold, thou sees it.

Mounts are of course short for mountains.
Chaldeans are the Babylonians.
Here we see Babylon described as a mountain.
Is this not scriptural identification of the word mountain?
One key to understanding the seven heads of the beast?

Coincidence?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Revelation 17:9> And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

Revelation 13
1> And i stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
3> And i saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death, and his deadly wound was healed, and all the world wondered after the beast.

Some say the seven mountains refer to Rome. If that were so, why is only one head wounded?
Shouldn't all seven heads be wounded if indeed it were Rome? This is an anomaly and contradicts the other six heads if indeed it were speaking of Rome. For all heads should then be wounded, for Rome is one not seven. One empire under one name..not seven empires but one...Rome.
We also see that one of the heads was wounded.
Can you wound a mountain and then heal it? As though a physical mountain could be wounded or die? Mountains are ROCK. Inanimate objects.
So mountains here must be meaning something else, something symbolic. Not something geographical, but something else all together...

Again, I offer that the seven heads refers to empires. The seven mountains.
Scripture holds the answer. Jeremiah holds the key.

Jeremiah 32:24> Behold the mounts, they are come unto the city to take it, and the city is given into the hand of the Chaldeans, that fight against it, because of the sword, and of the famine, and of the pestilence, and what thou hast spoken hast come to pass, and, behold, thou sees it.

Mounts are of course short for mountains.
Chaldeans are the Babylonians.
Here we see Babylon described as a mountain.
Is this not scriptural identification of the word mountain?
One key to understanding the seven heads of the beast?

Coincidence?

Many people think it is Rome because scripture calls it the repowering of the 4th beast, Which is rome. Even in daniels prophesy, we are told the prince who is to come are of the same empire of those who destroy the temple and jerusalem (which would be the Roman empire)

 

[Devolution]

Many people think it is Rome because scripture calls it the repowering of the 4th beast, Which is rome. Even in daniels prophesy, we are told the prince who is to come are of the same empire of those who destroy the temple and jerusalem (which would be the Roman empire)

Hi EG,

Yes the fourth beast is to be a re-emergence of one of the beasts of yesterday..."Rome", i agree with you. However, Rome itself, my point being, is not the actual seven mountains itself, but is instead, just one of the seven heads (mounts) "reborn/healed". The heads being individual empires of which Rome was just one.

I say healed, as does scripture, for Rome never really went away. Her system lingers on even today. Our laws and philosophies etc are founded on that system even still as you most likely know. And when i say lingers on, i mean in the "west". And Romes system was based upon the Greek system. Interesting that scripture says that Greece would conquer the whole world (prophecy) in Daniel. Conquer through its system that the world adopts.

Also, notice that the 4th beast has brass claws (Greece) and iron teeth (Rome) Daniel 7:19 which correlates with king Nebs statue explanation. That is a interesting clue to the beasts lineage. And it is this system which will be ushered in worldwide before it metamorphs into the dictatorship in democratic disguise, under the false prophet of revelations...it being the 8th which is of the 7....rev 17:11.

Interesting that now, this concept of democracy, started in Greece (brass) and adopted and enforced by Rome (iron) and us in the "west", is now spreading by riots through the Arab nations. The timing is perfect. So we agree on the beast having that Roman root. I just say that Rome is one of the seven and not the whole of the seven is all. And that "Rome" is to come again in power, but right now she is divided into separate/independant dominions (countries), kings with no power (as an empire that is) as yet...yes we agree, that will soon change though.

The beast is but one of four beasts.
Rome is but one of the seven mounts.

By this method, we can discern/get a clearer understanding who the 10 kings who emerge will be scripturally and by lineage...which directs us to Europe and her "seed". Her seed being her colonies of which Canada, America, Australia etc are derived from. Any of these DNA seed founded countries could join to make up the 10 without breaking scripture, for we are "of" them too.

Regards
Devolution.

 

[Scotth1960]

Many people think it is Rome because scripture calls it the repowering of the 4th beast, Which is rome. Even in daniels prophesy, we are told the prince who is to come are of the same empire of those who destroy the temple and jerusalem (which would be the Roman empire)

Dear eternallygratefull, It is better that we try to avoid Revelation and be humble before God, and always be cautious with this book. It is possible that no one really understands this book. It is better to leave it as an unsolved mystery of God. Because Revelation warns, "I warn every one who hears the words of the prophecy of this book, if any one adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book; and if any one takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book" Revelation 22:18-19 RSV.
So, I believe God keeps people from reading this book. It really seems clear 100 percent of people who read this book fail to understand 100 percent of this book of Revelation. Some people understand a little of the book, but no man has opened the seals which are on this book, and this book is sealed away by God as a closed book which cannot be opened until the time when it is in God's will to open it shall arrive. No man knows the day nor the hour of the end times. In Erie PA Scott R. Harrington May 2011 AD

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Hi EG,

Yes the fourth beast is to be a re-emergence of one of the beasts of yesterday..."Rome", i agree with you. However, Rome itself, my point being, is not the actual seven mountains itself, but is instead, just one of the seven heads (mounts) "reborn/healed". The heads being individual empires of which Rome was just one.

I say healed, as does scripture, for Rome never really went away. Her system lingers on even today. Our laws and philosophies etc are founded on that system even still as you most likely know. And when i say lingers on, i mean in the "west". And Romes system was based upon the Greek system. Interesting that scripture says that Greece would conquer the whole world (prophecy) in Daniel. Conquer through its system that the world adopts.

Also, notice that the 4th beast has brass claws (Greece) and iron teeth (Rome) Daniel 7:19 which correlates with king Nebs statue explanation. That is a interesting clue to the beasts lineage. And it is this system which will be ushered in worldwide before it metamorphs into the dictatorship in democratic disguise, under the false prophet of revelations...it being the 8th which is of the 7....rev 17:11.

Interesting that now, this concept of democracy, started in Greece (brass) and adopted and enforced by Rome (iron) and us in the "west", is now spreading by riots through the Arab nations. The timing is perfect. So we agree on the beast having that Roman root. I just say that Rome is one of the seven and not the whole of the seven is all. And that "Rome" is to come again in power, but right now she is divided into separate/independant dominions (countries), kings with no power (as an empire that is) as yet...yes we agree, that will soon change though.

The beast is but one of four beasts.
Rome is but one of the seven mounts.

By this method, we can discern/get a clearer understanding who the 10 kings who emerge will be scripturally and by lineage...which directs us to Europe and her "seed". Her seed being her colonies of which Canada, America, Australia etc are derived from. Any of these DNA seed founded countries could join to make up the 10 without breaking scripture, for we are "of" them too.

Regards
Devolution.

I agree.

I think as far as the 7 mountains go though, It speaks more of who the harlot is., not so much who the beast is. The beast destroys the harlot. and the great city. The city being close enough that people on ships can see it burining. This is a literal place. The 7 mountains just give us a hint of where this place might be.

 

[Devolution]

Dear eternallygratefull, It is better that we try to avoid Revelation and be humble before God, and always be cautious with this book. It is possible that no one really understands this book. It is better to leave it as an unsolved mystery of God. Because Revelation warns, "I warn every one who hears the words of the prophecy of this book, if any one adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book; and if any one takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book" Revelation 22:18-19 RSV.
So, I believe God keeps people from reading this book. It really seems clear 100 percent of people who read this book fail to understand 100 percent of this book of Revelation. Some people understand a little of the book, but no man has opened the seals which are on this book, and this book is sealed away by God as a closed book which cannot be opened until the time when it is in God's will to open it shall arrive. No man knows the day nor the hour of the end times. In Erie PA Scott R. Harrington May 2011 AD

Hello Scotth,
It is understandable to be cautious of interpretations given by men of which i am, concerning this book of revelations. I have no problem with you on this. But your avoidance of revelation goes against scripture. For we are instructed to search all things out in His name. Your advice goes against His command? Do you realize this?

Revelation 22:10> And He saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book, for the time is at hand.

So this book of revelations is NOT sealed, which means that it is instead open. And if open, then we are to seek it out in spirit and truth. But you say it is sealed? Already you contradict Jesus and i ask you drop this false claim that revelations is sealed. I have pointed this out to you before?? Again...

Revelation 22:10> And He saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book, for the time is at hand.

For:

Revelation 22:7> Behold, I come quickly, blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.

How can one keep the prohecy of this unsealed (open) book of revelation if one avoids it and keeps it as a mystery as you claim? Consider what you say against what our Lord says. There is no profit in contradicting Jesus, only loss. If your church has taught you this thing, then you should reconsider your allegiance...Christ...or your church, who is contradicting His clear and simple message of reading this OPEN unsealed book of revelation. Burying our head in the sand is not Christs message, i am surprised you still have not searched this out as a ministering priest after i have shown you several times before that scripture!

Do not be afraid to question and seek, for this is what we are called to do.

Regards
Devolution.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Dear eternallygratefull, It is better that we try to avoid Revelation and be humble before God, and always be cautious with this book. It is possible that no one really understands this book. It is better to leave it as an unsolved mystery of God. Because Revelation warns, "I warn every one who hears the words of the prophecy of this book, if any one adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book; and if any one takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book" Revelation 22:18-19 RSV.
So, I believe God keeps people from reading this book. It really seems clear 100 percent of people who read this book fail to understand 100 percent of this book of Revelation. Some people understand a little of the book, but no man has opened the seals which are on this book, and this book is sealed away by God as a closed book which cannot be opened until the time when it is in God's will to open it shall arrive. No man knows the day nor the hour of the end times. In Erie PA Scott R. Harrington May 2011 AD

If God did not want us to read it. He would not have had it written and put in his book.

 

[Avinu]

Devolution, I completely agree with you take on this, 7 mntns being 7 empires. As you probably know, any true empire of the past is one that controls Jerusalem. If you go through history there have only been 7 empires. Assyrian, Egyptian, babylonian, medes/persian, greecian empire, roman empire, ottoman empire. Plus it's interesting in Rev. it talks about the last one that was, and is not, and is the eighth. Shalom

 

[Devolution]

Devolution, I completely agree with you take on this, 7 mntns being 7 empires. As you probably know, any true empire of the past is one that controls Jerusalem. If you go through history there have only been 7 empires. Assyrian, Egyptian, babylonian, medes/persian, greecian empire, roman empire, ottoman empire. Plus it's interesting in Rev. it talks about the last one that was, and is not, and is the eighth. Shalom

Hi Avinu,
thank you for your reply. Yes, we agree, Every empire has played a direct role concerning Israel. I see only one difference in our identifying the seven empires. Please let me show you my understanding and reasoning relating to scripture...i don't mean to argue, just to show my discerning of the seven.

1> Egypt. God used Egypt to allow Israel to grow into a nation sufficient in numbers before leading them out by Moses. Egypt was the "womb" so to speak. (i suspect you know this, but i write it for those who might not)
2> Assyria. As you know, God used them to punish Israel.
So we have two mounts here that played crucial roles in Israels history. We agree so far...

Now, as you know, we have king Nebs statue of Daniel to guide us for the rest of the mounts....

3> Babylon.
4> Media Persia
5> Greece
6> Rome....

Now God falls silent identifying the next empire that is to eventually change into that beast that was and is not and is to come (the 8th) that you mentioned. So back to the seventh empire....and herein is where we differ on only one of the mounts/empires...i do not believe it is the Ottoman empire. Please let me explain...

We all know Rome broke apart. The legs of iron. Yet continuing on down to the feet of Nebs statue, the iron is still present. The iron as you know stood not only for strength, but for Rome also. And the feet still had the iron in it, as do the toes. This was where the Roman kingdom was divided (during the feet period). Where the Roman empire was broken apart into independent dominions/nations. Remember "The kingdom was divided" Daniel 2:41. This is when Rome was fragmented. Yet one of her (Romes) dominions having the iron link, grew into an empire of her own. And she was related to the legs of iron also. We know there has to be an empire during this small space or the numbers won't add up.

So during the feet period if we stay with Daniel. The feet of course being where the 7th empire to (shall) influence Israel...ruled. So this tells me that this 7th empire had its roots in the Roman empire. Being of that "seed". And not only that, the toes also, being part of the feet, likewise having the iron still present, being the 8th (rev 17:11) which is really the 7th (reborn "Roman empire") destined to change into something the world has not seen for a very very very long time...the beast that was, and is not, and is to come...which is 21st century Babel. Meaning , 21st century Roman empire is destined to go global after a very short space. That is, one world rule, one world leader. New Rome is to transform into a modern global Babel once her wicked ruler comes to power.

Daniel 7:24> And the ten horns (toes) out of this kingdom (Roman dominions that reunite) are ten kings that shall arise, and another shall arise after them, and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings. (the false prophet) So the 10 kings first (reborn Roman empire) and very very quickly the wicked one rises from amongst them Daniel 7:8...here is when "new Rome" changes into modern Babel.

And then verse 25-26 is when Christ returns and smashes the empire of mans rule.

And as you pointed out, all these empires had a direct role in Israels fortunes. But there is a problem. Israel ceased to exist as a nation after 70 ad. Her people were scattered and nation-less again. So since Rome scattered Israel the nation all that time ago, it wasn't until a certain empire gave back her land in 1948 that any other empire could affect the nation of Israel. So whichever empire that achieved this goal, must automatically be the 7th empire, and must be of the iron in heritage (Roman). Keeping in line with what you mentioned, affecting national Israel directly.

And that empire which affected national Israel, allowing them to become a nation again in Jerusalem, was of course the British empire. Interestingly enough, Britain was one of Romes previous dominions. Which keeps in step with Daniels interpretation of that iron theme running through to the very end. Not only that, but how the kingdom was divided...the Roman kingdom/empire being divided that is. The iron informing us of the beasts lineage...And since that iron runs through right up to the end, the 7th empire must have that Roman link.

Sorry for the long answer. Let me know how you feel about this...i am interested to hear your opinion.

Regards
Devolution.

 

[Scotth1960]

Hello Scotth,
It is understandable to be cautious of interpretations given by men of which i am, concerning this book of revelations. I have no problem with you on this. But your avoidance of revelation goes against scripture. For we are instructed to search all things out in His name. Your advice goes against His command? Do you realize this?

Revelation 22:10> And He saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book, for the time is at hand.

So this book of revelations is NOT sealed, which means that it is instead open. And if open, then we are to seek it out in spirit and truth. But you say it is sealed? Already you contradict Jesus and i ask you drop this false claim that revelations is sealed. I have pointed this out to you before?? Again...

Revelation 22:10> And He saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book, for the time is at hand.

For:

Revelation 22:7> Behold, I come quickly, blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.

How can one keep the prohecy of this unsealed (open) book of revelation if one avoids it and keeps it as a mystery as you claim? Consider what you say against what our Lord says. There is no profit in contradicting Jesus, only loss. If your church has taught you this thing, then you should reconsider your allegiance...Christ...or your church, who is contradicting His clear and simple message of reading this OPEN unsealed book of revelation. Burying our head in the sand is not Christs message, i am surprised you still have not searched this out as a ministering priest after i have shown you several times before that scripture!

Do not be afraid to question and seek, for this is what we are called to do.

Regards
Devolution.

What we can know that when Revelation was written, before 70 AD, the time WAS at hand. It was unsealed shortly before the time of the end of the Jewish age, the end of the OT covenant of animal sacrifices, which the Roman army of General Titus took away from the unbelieving Jews who were still sacrificing animals to allegedly take away sins, after the only valid offering and sacrifice for sins, Jesus Christ on the Cross and in His blood. What can not be known for sure is whether or not the book of Revelation, any of it, applies to our own times. It would have to be unequivocally the time of the end, with Enoch and Elijah returning from Heaven and ministering to the Jews in Jerusalem. Since that has not happened yet, we can not say unequivocally that it is the end times. The two witnesses promised in Revelation 11, which do seem to be Enoch and Elijah, haven't shown up on earth. There is no sin in avoiding reading Revelation. For the book does not say, "Cursed be the ones who do not read" this book. It says only those who misinterpret this book are in danger. It is better to avoid danger and be humble before God. Many Protesatnt Evangelicals act arrogantly, as if they know every last detail about God's future, and about every last verse of Revelation. They show themselves false in almost everything that they say. I have lived 50 years and these people have been saying these things since 1970. So for 40 years they have been prophesying an end that never came.
They said Christians would be taken secretly alive out of the world, and this hasn't happened. They said millions, billions of people would suddenly disappear from the earth. They said only Jews and other non-Christians would be left behind. They have left behind the truth and the real meaning of the Bible by all of their false prophesies. Lindsey is not an expert on the book of Revelation. When I was young, I was taken in and wildly fooled by his sensationalistic newspaper approach to the Bible. The Bible is sacred, and was not meant to be abused like that. Take care. In Erie PA Scott R. Harrington

 

[Scotth1960]

If God did not want us to read it. He would not have had it written and put in his book.

Dear eternallygratefull,
God wants us to read it. What He does not want is for us to misinterpret it. No one on earth has demonstrated unequivocally that he understands this book. Everyone who has tried has fallen short of the glory of God and the whole truth about this book. Why is that, unless the time of the end has not yet been fully and unequivocally revealed? Only parts of the book seem to have been fulfilled, but the parts which might still be in the future haven't been explained clearly and without any error. And Deuteronomy tells us not to listen to any alleged prophet who makes even one error about predictions of the future. Maybe it is no error to only comment on parts of it. But no one has yet revealed the true meaning of every last verse and detail of Revelation. No one knows the day nor the hour when these things will be revealed in true Christianity. The true Church has left this book to the mystery of God and to God's hands, trusting that God Himself will reveal the truth about the book to a fully-qualified interpreter when it actually is the time of the end. But as far as we can know, it is not yet that time. If Enoch and Elijah are the two witnesses of Revelation 11, they haven't come to earth to reveal the meaning of Revelation to all who have ears to hear. In Erie PA Scott Harrington

 

[Avinu]

Devolution, shalom, I basically agree with all you have, now for egypt and assyria I'll have to give more detail on them, I'll get back to you on that. King Neb. statue, fully agree with you. Now even though Israel from 70 a.d. on didn't exist as a nation till 1948 the ottoman empire which interestingly enough has controlled more territory in the world than any other empire, controlled Jerusalem for a long time after they defeated Rome. What's funny, as you probably know that many believe that the EU is the revised Roman empire, what's funny is that Turkey which was the head of the ottoman empire, is to become a part of the EU this yr or next. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the ottoman empire is that one of the tribulation period, but it does stand for a look at. Your thoughts?

 

[Devolution]

Devolution, shalom, I basically agree with all you have, now for egypt and assyria I'll have to give more detail on them, I'll get back to you on that. King Neb. statue, fully agree with you. Now even though Israel from 70 a.d. on didn't exist as a nation till 1948 the ottoman empire which interestingly enough has controlled more territory in the world than any other empire, controlled Jerusalem for a long time after they defeated Rome. What's funny, as you probably know that many believe that the EU is the revised Roman empire, what's funny is that Turkey which was the head of the ottoman empire, is to become a part of the EU this yr or next. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the ottoman empire is that one of the tribulation period, but it does stand for a look at. Your thoughts?

Yes interesting point Avinu. I won't just brush what you say aside, all things must be considered....it is interesting that Turkey might join the EU i agree...meaning the iron link would have to apply to them also wouldn't it !! For they would then need abide by the "iron" system if they join, just as they are making changes politically to be eligible to join under the EU's requirements, which would keep that iron link flowing if they get in. Its just that that would mean The EU with Turkey must do something big that affects Israel before the 10 toes kick in? And Turkey hasn't had that iron streak of Daniel all this time? But as we know, anything is possible in this unstable world until the 10 emerge...but that's the cut off stage...the 10, for the false prophet attacks Israel after gaining control of the 10...Israels lovers turning against her !!

So i would like to think more on it also...as you are displaying...we must tread cautiously and weigh it all up scripturally...thanks for the input...i will definitely ponder it more...it does warrant consideration i admit...definitely...again...thanks Avinu !!

 

[Devolution]

What we can know that when Revelation was written, before 70 AD, the time WAS at hand. It was unsealed shortly before the time of the end of the Jewish age, the end of the OT covenant of animal sacrifices, which the Roman army of General Titus took away from the unbelieving Jews who were still sacrificing animals to allegedly take away sins, after the only valid offering and sacrifice for sins, Jesus Christ on the Cross and in His blood. What can not be known for sure is whether or not the book of Revelation, any of it, applies to our own times. It would have to be unequivocally the time of the end, with Enoch and Elijah returning from Heaven and ministering to the Jews in Jerusalem. Since that has not happened yet, we can not say unequivocally that it is the end times. The two witnesses promised in Revelation 11, which do seem to be Enoch and Elijah, haven't shown up on earth. There is no sin in avoiding reading Revelation. For the book does not say, "Cursed be the ones who do not read" this book. It says only those who misinterpret this book are in danger. It is better to avoid danger and be humble before God. Many Protesatnt Evangelicals act arrogantly, as if they know every last detail about God's future, and about every last verse of Revelation. They show themselves false in almost everything that they say. I have lived 50 years and these people have been saying these things since 1970. So for 40 years they have been prophesying an end that never came.
They said Christians would be taken secretly alive out of the world, and this hasn't happened. They said millions, billions of people would suddenly disappear from the earth. They said only Jews and other non-Christians would be left behind. They have left behind the truth and the real meaning of the Bible by all of their false prophesies. Lindsey is not an expert on the book of Revelation. When I was young, I was taken in and wildly fooled by his sensationalistic newspaper approach to the Bible. The Bible is sacred, and was not meant to be abused like that. Take care. In Erie PA Scott R. Harrington

I understand where you are coming from Scotth, i am just seeking with all my heart all things pertaining to our Lord...it is all i care for. No hard feelings.

Regards
Devolution.

 

[Scotth1960]

Hello Scotth,
It is understandable to be cautious of interpretations given by men of which i am, concerning this book of revelations. I have no problem with you on this. But your avoidance of revelation goes against scripture. For we are instructed to search all things out in His name. Your advice goes against His command? Do you realize this?

Revelation 22:10> And He saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book, for the time is at hand.

So this book of revelations is NOT sealed, which means that it is instead open. And if open, then we are to seek it out in spirit and truth. But you say it is sealed? Already you contradict Jesus and i ask you drop this false claim that revelations is sealed. I have pointed this out to you before?? Again...

Revelation 22:10> And He saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book, for the time is at hand.

For:

Revelation 22:7> Behold, I come quickly, blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.

How can one keep the prohecy of this unsealed (open) book of revelation if one avoids it and keeps it as a mystery as you claim? Consider what you say against what our Lord says. There is no profit in contradicting Jesus, only loss. If your church has taught you this thing, then you should reconsider your allegiance...Christ...or your church, who is contradicting His clear and simple message of reading this OPEN unsealed book of revelation. Burying our head in the sand is not Christs message, i am surprised you still have not searched this out as a ministering priest after i have shown you several times before that scripture!

Do not be afraid to question and seek, for this is what we are called to do.

Regards
Devolution.

Dear Devolution,
I believe Christ founded only one Church (Matthew 16:18), and that the one Church declared in 381 AD that chiliasm (premillennialism) is unacceptable for all Christians.
It is a universal teaching of the universal Church. It is is the very Christian Creed of the One true Church. Of Christ's Kingdom "there shall be no end"/ "there is no end."
Do you believe Christ will rule for 1,000 years in the future from earthly Jerusalem, from an earthly Jewish kingdom with animals sacrifices in the restored Jewish temple, and with some resurrected believers, and other believers unresurrected and marrying and giving in marriage? Is that what Revelation teaches? If that is what you believe Revelation says, it is indeed a case of "private interpretation" of the Scriptures, of Revelation, which 2 Peter 1:20-21; cf. 2 Peter 3:16-18 speaks against. We should believe only what has been believed by true Christians "always, everywhere, and by everyone" who is a true Christian, and a true Christian will believe the unaltered Nicene Creed without the Filioque, and the seven ecumenical councils of the One Church between 325 AD and 787 AD. Take care. In Erie PA Scott R. Harrington

 

[AnandaHya]

Mounts are of course short for mountains.

??? WHAT version of the Bible are you reading?

here are a few other version you can compare and see how the word "mounts" mean to people who actually TRANSLATE the Bible.

24 ‘Look, the siege mounds! They have come to the city to take it; and the city has been given into the hand of the Chaldeans who fight against it, because of the sword and famine and pestilence. What You have spoken has happened; there You see it!,,,,, NKJV

Jeremiah 32:24 (Amplified Bible)

24See the siege mounds [of earth which the foe has heaped against the walls]; they have come up to the city to take it. And the city is given into the hand of the Chaldeans who fight against it, because [the people are overcome] by the sword and the famine and the pestilence. What You have spoken has come to pass, and behold, You see it.
Jeremiah 32:24 (The Message)

24-25"'Oh, look at the siege ramps already set in place to take the city. Killing and starvation and disease are on our doorstep. The Babylonians are attacking! The Word you spoke is coming to pass—it's daily news! And yet you, God, the Master, even though it is certain that the city will be turned over to the Babylonians, also told me, Buy the field. Pay for it in cash. And make sure there are witnesses.'


OK I found it...
Jeremiah 32:24 (King James Version)

24Behold the mounts, they are come unto the city to take it; and the city is given into the hand of the Chaldeans, that fight against it, because of the sword, and of the famine, and of the pestilence: and what thou hast spoken is come to pass; and, behold, thou seest it.

Now lets look at the ORIGINAL Language.... any Bible scholars can tell us the original Hebrew word and its meaning? I haven't learned how to read it yet. working on it.

 

[AnandaHya]

some things are still sealed.

Revelation 10:4
And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not

 

[55scuba]

The 7 Heads are 7 Mountains and the 7 Mountains are the 7 Kings that will rule the Islamic countries that will try to destroy Israel after the 3 1/2 years of FALSE PEACE. It is NOT ROME or The Catholic Church.

 

[AnandaHya]

The 7 Heads are 7 Mountains and the 7 Mountains are the 7 Kings that will rule the Islamic countries that will try to destroy Israel after the 3 1/2 years of FALSE PEACE. It is NOT ROME or The Catholic Church.

yes I see by your avatar you must worship Jewish traditions and buy into and agree with the Judiazers. what form is it taking in current day?

translation: which denomination church do you belong to?

How do you read these scriptures?

is God's chosen people still just the Jewish nation, Israel still physical and not spiritual? God's nation still of this carnal world and not a Spiritual empire? ....

Romans 2:28-29 (New King James Version)

28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; 29 but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.

WHO did Jesus come to REDEEM? who is Israel?

Isaiah 44:20-22 (New King James Version)

20 He feeds on ashes;
A deceived heart has turned him aside;
And he cannot deliver his soul,
Nor say, “Is there not a lie in my right hand?”

Israel Is Not Forgotten

21 “ Remember these, O Jacob,
And Israel, for you are My servant;
I have formed you, you are My servant;
O Israel, you will not be forgotten by Me!
22 I have blotted out, like a thick cloud, your transgressions,
And like a cloud, your sins.
Return to Me, for I have redeemed you.”

 

[55scuba]

I am a Christian that was raised to worship the God of Israel. Jesus Died for my sins and I believe we will be raptured before the Tribulation period and that Israel and the Jews are the Apple of Gods eye and we will be blessed if we bless the Jews. Gen 12:3 . I use the KJV Dake's Annotated ref. Bible. We were grafted in with the Jews when Christ gave up the ghost and the veil was torn down the middle and we no longer need to sacrifice antmore but use the BLOOD OF JESUS Thank you Lord for that, and all the people God used to write the Bible were Jews and Jesus told us that salvation is of the Jews. We no longer use the LAW we have the Blood of Jesus . Romans 4 : 1-4
1 What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found?
2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath [whereof] to glory; but not before God.
3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.

So If Abraham was the Father of the Jews and we serve his God then i support Israel and if you ever get the chance to go GO God will bless you like never before.. TRUST ME