Doctrine of Demons

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Deadflesh

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"But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons," 1 Timothy 4:1


NAR/Dominionism/Kingdom Now theology = Doctrine of demons.

Tounges saves you = Demons

You cant be Holy, and you cant even stop sinning = Doctrine of DEMONS, DEMONS, DEMONS

You will be a glorified God on earth = Demons, DEMONS, Doctrine of DEMONS

You Don't Have to fear the LORD = DOCTRINE OF DEMONS!!!!!! - (ONLY way to walk the highway of holyness.)

the above are mine the rest are taken from HERE in its entirety--> Top 50 Doctrines of Demons Truth In Scripture


Christians are not suposed to be judging = DEMONS DOCTRINE, We judge RIGHTEOUSLY, we judge ungodliness, and seperate for those who practice such things, WE DONT judge the WORLD, but the body, flushing out SIN

Faith means simply believing Jesus is saviour = DEMONS!!! DEMONS DEMONS!! - (Jesus is not our Savior if He is not first our Lord. Faith is not just believing about Jesus, it is believing Jesus and submitting to all that He says and trusting in Him and the promises given to all that follow Him in obedience. Otherwise our faith is not genuine. Even demons believe(and shudder) Jesus is the Son of God and died on a cross which does not constitute the completeness of a saving faith.)

God is only love, and loves ALL = Demon Doctrine (God hates the wicked and all that practice unrighteousness and rebel against His Covenant. He is merciful and will take everyone back who turns their hearts back to Him but if we walk in rebellion, the wrath of God is already abiding upon us)

Grace is Blanket Forgiveness for all sin, past present future = Doctrine of DEMONS (Grace is the enabling power of the Holy Spirit that gives us the ability to overcome sin, the world and the powers of darkness.)

The Teaching of Obedeience being WORKS = Doctrine of Demons! (We obey because we are saved not to be saved but if we do not practice obedience we clearly are not saved. A true works salvation is teaching any other way of salvation besides being led by the Holy Spirit. The Spirit of God will lead us into all righteousness and we will sin not.)


Salvation is a ONE TIME event not a journey = Doctrine Demons (We must overcome and endure all the way to the end, moving on to maturity in a salvation walk along the highway of holiness. Once called by God, we must finish the race God has set before us. It is correct to say we are saved and are being saved but we must continue following Jesus until He call us home.)

The Gift of eternal life has no conditions attached to it = Demons (The gift of eternal life is given unmerited as part of God’s mercy and grace but to receive the gift we must meet many conditions of endurance, overcoming, surrender, and dying to self. The bar of worthiness for being a disciple (follower) of Jesus was set very high by the KING.)


Once saved always saved = Demons (If we do not endure and finish the journey we can fall away from faith and like the original Jewish people can be cut off the vine and these branches will be gathered and thrown into the fire. (John 15 and Romans 11:22). There is eternal security but it presupposes one stays following Jesus and does not wander off the narrow path led astray by the deceitfulness of sin.)


Christians cannot have demons = Demon Doctrine (Demons and deliverance from them is necessary to clear the land of the enemy and find true peace that transcends all understanding. We are the living stones that make up the spiritual temple of the Lord. Deliverance is only for the children of God, i.e. “Christians” and believing demons automatically leave when one comes to faith is one of the most insidious demonic doctrines that have taken hold in the apostate churches. Jesus said in my name you will cast out devils…, which were idle words if they left automatically.)


God hear all your prayers = Doctrine of demons (Children in covenant with the Lord have their prayers answered. We can ask for anything in His name and He said He will do it (John 14:14). Yet the prayers of those outside of covenant or in rebellion to covenant are not even heard says the Lord (Proverbs 1:28). He turns His face away and our sins separate us from the Lord (Isaiah 59). We need to repent and turn our hearts back to Him to have our prayers heard much less answered.)


The gifts of the Holy Spirit have ceased = Doctrine of demons (Jesus said we would do the works He did and even greater works. We need the power of the Holy Spirit and the gifts to perform the kingdom work in all fullness. The bible is not perfect as men have touched it so perfect has not come. The reason so little of the professing church has no power is because they do not believe and have not dealt with sin in the congregation.)


The nation of Israel is God’s Israel = Doctrine of demons (The children of God were NEVER children of the flesh. The heirs to the promise given to Abraham are those born again of the spiritual seed of Isaac. There has always only been one Vine, one church and one Bride. We must be Born Again to be God’s people and even Nicodemus was supposed to know this but did not. The modern-day nation of Israel is not the Israel of God. Romans 9 – All Israel is not Israel yet Romans 11- All Israel shall be saved. The everlasting sign of God’s people was the covenant of circumcision given to Abraham, this is a circumcision of the heart and that is who comprises the spiritual children of the Lord (Romans 2:28-29). The flesh wants to look to a modern nation as Israel yet Abraham himself was not looking for a piece of dirt, he was looking for a spiritual city and home (Hebrews 11:10).


God does not speak to us today = Doctrine of Demons (Unless God is speaking to you, you do not know Him, have not the Spirit of God and are not saved. Jesus said His sheep hear His voice and follow Him (John 10:27).


We must keep the Sabbath to be saved = Demon doctrine ( Romans 10:4 Christ is the end of the law for righteousness. Romans 3:21 Now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been manifested. The law of Moses was nailed to the cross at Calvary for those in covenant with the Lord. Keep the Sabbath if you wish and God will bless you as He blesses all that we do from a pure heart to glorify Him, but do not judge your brother on this issue (Romans 14:20). Romans 8:2 The law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set us free from the law of sin and death. Love is fulfillment of all the law.)

We are commanded to go to church = Demon Doctrine (The word church is a misnomer. The church is the called out people of God that He has chosen and is purifying by the sanctifying work of the Holy Spirit. The body of Christ is the church, they do not go to church yet they do seek to assemble and fellowship. What man calls church is a meeting house or an assembly place. We are called to fellowship but not with unbelievers and not with those practicing sin yet professing faith (1 Cor 5). We must separate from the ungodly (2 Cor 6). Yet we are encouraged to get together and meet with true brethren to break bread, take communion and to wash each others feet which means to purge sin from our midst.)


Universalism: God will save all He created = Demons (Jesus said that very few will be saved and find the way to eternal life. God is the potter and we are the clay and the potter has reserved for Himself the right to make vessels destined for mercy and vessels destined for wrath. This growing Universalism movement that is wrapped in a perverted concept of God’s ”love” is leading many to the pits of hell with a false happiness that is really is a God sent delusion in response to their love of unrighteousness in their hearts (2 Thess 2:12)


We will all be raptured away before tribulation comes = Demon Doctrine (Jesus will come on the LAST DAY of this earth as He spoke 4 times in John 6. The wicked are taken first by a spiritual destruction that comes about by the powers of darkness that apostasy ignores. This is the feast of demons. The way to the kingdom of God is thru great tribulation as even the story of Shadrach makes perfectly clear. This rapture doctrine is of the flesh and is demonic and many will fall away and grow in unbelief as this earth continues in ever-increasing darkness. The peace and safety delusion is going to give way to destruction and that destruction will begin in the house of God and is spiritual. It has already started in earnest.)

The Bible is or is not the Word of God = Demon doctrine (The Bible is the written WORD of God but remains a dead letter or dead book unless one is Born Again of the Spirit of God. Flesh cannot discern the hidden and deep meanings and symbolism in the Bible on its own intellect and strength. God must show it to you. But when the Spirit comes, if you seek Him, the Bible comes alive with revelation and wisdom to all that fear the Lord. Studying the Bible without the Spirit is fruitless and will not save anyone without repentance. Let him who has ears, hear the WORD of God. Jesus the living WORD that lives inside of us will reveal to His servants what the written WORD means and these instructions will help guide us on the narrow path that leads to eternal life.)

We are Born Again the moment we come to faith = Demon doctrine (Our faith is tested and proven by God and as we put to death the deeds of the flesh, only then are we Born Again. For something to be born again, something must first die. Jesus told us in John 12 that a grain of wheat must first fall to the ground and die before it can come back to life and bear fruit. A seed does not bear fruit and break forth from the soil until it has first died, taken root then is brought forward in newness of life.)


The Bible must only be interpreted literally = Demon doctrine (There is literal meaning and historical revelation in Scripture, however, the entire Bible is written with metaphors, types and symbols that also convey deep and hidden spiritual understanding that is consistent throughout. The Spirit of God must show us this meaning as Jesus spoke in parables, metaphors and riddles so that the wise in the flesh would not understand (Matthew 13:13-17). Many of the visions and prophecies were also given when the Apostles were in the “spirit” and are clearly written in symbolism that is amazingly consistent in the entire Bible.)


Jesus finished all the works, we have nothing to do = Doctrine of demon (Jesus definitely finished His work yet all that claim to have faith have many things they must be doing that confirm faith and love for Jesus. All our work is done being led by the Holy Spirit (true grace) yet we must diligently labor to carry out the will of God for our life. (Hebrews 4:11). If we choose eternal life, we must accept the words of Jesus. This means to DO the things Jesus commanded. He told us to DO many things: believe, obey, deny ourselves, forgive, lose our life, love one another, fear God, endure, overcome, hear, teach, make disciples, carry a cross, follow Him, repent, be baptized, purify ourselves, pray, seek Him etc. etc. These action verbs are His commandments that He has spoken and will speak to us thru the Spirit of God. Work out your salvation with fear and trembling for it is Christ who works in you both to will and to work for His good pleasure


Jesus will come to establish a kingdom and rule on this earth for 1,000 years = Demon doctrine (Jesus is ruling and reigning on the throne right now and those Born Again are ruling and reigning with Him. True brethren are already seated in the heavenly’s (Eph 2:6) and know that the Kingdom of God is not of this world. We are in the world but not of the world and Jesus is going to establish new heavens and a new earth and all that we know today will be burned with fire. )


Jesus is not God = Demons demons demons (Jesus is God and is the Lord that created everything. The King spoke through His prophets and is the Holy One of Israel, the Lord of Hosts, the Redeemer, Creator, Prince of Peace, the Alpha and the Omega (beginning and the end) and is the ALL-IN-ALL for all whom truly believe. God spilled His own blood to redeem man from the curse of sin. Satan is using this as a very important doctrine to sow unbelief and division within the house of God. It is foolish of men to think we can understand and know all the things of God. Jesus and the Father are ONE. Great indeed is the mystery of Godliness.)
 
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AnandaHya

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you ok DF?

you seem rather demon focused of late...

what happened to the sermons and things you were posting before with the focus on Jesus and living a Christ centered life and all?

anyways love you bro, talk to you later :)
 
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Deadflesh

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I do? im sorry. Jesus bless you
 

gb9

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hey deadflesh, so you never sin right? never ever? not by thought or deed? because to say the things you say,this had better be true.but in the very likeley chance that that is not true, why do you think you are sinless? based on what? not trying to argue,just asking.
 
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Deadflesh

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hey deadflesh, so you never sin right? never ever? not by thought or deed? because to say the things you say,this had better be true.but in the very likeley chance that that is not true, why do you think you are sinless? based on what? not trying to argue,just asking.
I never said i dont stumble. I said that its a false teachign to say the bible says you will always sin. the bible doesnt say that.


The bible says that if we must put to death the deeds of the flesh.

The bible says that there are thigns to do(peter says add thigns to your walk, which ammount to what joh n says = LOVE) that we WONT stumble. The bible says IN Jesus there is no sin, and WALKING in the spirit you WONT carry out the deeds of the flesh


So i spoke that to teach differently, to teach that you will ALWAYS sin, is demonic, and false. Becasue thats not what the bible says and thats not what Jesus says.

So yes i do occasionaly stumble. But When Sin comes i resist it by submitting toJEUSS in the moment, and i DO NOT sin everytime im tempted to. Someoen said they sin every day. I do not. Honest to GOD i dont. But i do still stumble. and there is still MUCH deep rooted sin that im POSTIVE God hasnt gotten all out.

Do you Know Jesus? Do you WANT to sin? Cause division, cause strife? Cause confusion? Thats what teachign that doctrine does, and it takes AWAY from the word of God.

I hope more peopel wake up to that, and SEEK to be made holy. we cant make our selves holy, so lets ALL jsut deny self, so JESUS can do it.
 
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AnandaHya

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I was listening to a sermon that defined "willfully sinning" as doing something and when being reprimanded that you are sinning, denying it and telling God that it is your right to sin instead of repenting and asking God to help you overcome temptation and turn from that sin after it is revealed to you that you are going against God's laws...lol cleaned the house today and got read of a pile of books ;) ttyl DF
 

gb9

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yes i know Jesus. i know that there is a differance between willfull sin and making a mistake. however sin is sin. so to teach that once you are saved you never sin is very diviesive and false.teaching that God does not love everyone is insane John 3:16. duh.
 
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Deadflesh

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I was listening to a sermon that defined "willfully sinning" as doing something and when being reprimanded that you are sinning, denying it and telling God that it is your right to sin instead of repenting and asking God to help you overcome temptation and turn from that sin after it is revealed to you that you are going against God's laws...lol cleaned the house today and got read of a pile of books ;) ttyl DF
Woot!! Amen Ananda. Keep praying and cleaning. :) May Jesus Continue to, lead you and Bless you Sister :)
 
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Deadflesh

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yes i know Jesus. i know that there is a differance between willfull sin and making a mistake. however sin is sin. so to teach that once you are saved you never sin is very diviesive and false.teaching that God does not love everyone is insane John 3:16. duh.

Hahah :) JEsus bless you gb9, TRULY read these thigns over, and pray. if you still come to the same conclusions. then thats fine. (i cant make you see anything)

Sin IS sin, and walking in the spirit, you WONT sin(carry out the deeds of the flesh) CAN we walk in the spirit 24/7 i guess is some peopel argument. The BIBLE says you can, and even you SHOULD and you WILL if you are abiding in JESUS and obeying HIM. and its ALL HIM IN YOU DOING IT, and making it POSSIBLE for you to do it in your life.
 

damombomb

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gb9, these things you said are interesting,mostly true as well, but should,nt we go to church?
Faith cometh by heraing, and hearing by the word of God, and the pracher sent of God?
Woulnd,t this be the falling away, the law is to let us know our sin.
Jesus bless you.
 
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"But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons," 1 Timothy 4:1


NAR/Dominionism/Kingdom Now theology = Doctrine of demons.

Tounges saves you = Demons

You cant be Holy, and you cant even stop sinning = Doctrine of DEMONS, DEMONS, DEMONS

You will be a glorified God on earth = Demons, DEMONS, Doctrine of DEMONS

You Don't Have to fear the LORD = DOCTRINE OF DEMONS!!!!!! - (ONLY way to walk the highway of holyness.)

the above are mine the rest are taken from HERE in its entirety--> Top 50 Doctrines of Demons Truth In Scripture


Christians are not suposed to be judging = DEMONS DOCTRINE, We judge RIGHTEOUSLY, we judge ungodliness, and seperate for those who practice such things, WE DONT judge the WORLD, but the body, flushing out SIN

Faith means simply believing Jesus is saviour = DEMONS!!! DEMONS DEMONS!! - (Jesus is not our Savior if He is not first our Lord. Faith is not just believing about Jesus, it is believing Jesus and submitting to all that He says and trusting in Him and the promises given to all that follow Him in obedience. Otherwise our faith is not genuine. Even demons believe(and shudder) Jesus is the Son of God and died on a cross which does not constitute the completeness of a saving faith.)

God is only love, and loves ALL = Demon Doctrine (God hates the wicked and all that practice unrighteousness and rebel against His Covenant. He is merciful and will take everyone back who turns their hearts back to Him but if we walk in rebellion, the wrath of God is already abiding upon us)

Grace is Blanket Forgiveness for all sin, past present future = Doctrine of DEMONS (Grace is the enabling power of the Holy Spirit that gives us the ability to overcome sin, the world and the powers of darkness.)

The Teaching of Obedeience being WORKS = Doctrine of Demons! (We obey because we are saved not to be saved but if we do not practice obedience we clearly are not saved. A true works salvation is teaching any other way of salvation besides being led by the Holy Spirit. The Spirit of God will lead us into all righteousness and we will sin not.)


Salvation is a ONE TIME event not a journey = Doctrine Demons (We must overcome and endure all the way to the end, moving on to maturity in a salvation walk along the highway of holiness. Once called by God, we must finish the race God has set before us. It is correct to say we are saved and are being saved but we must continue following Jesus until He call us home.)

The Gift of eternal life has no conditions attached to it = Demons (The gift of eternal life is given unmerited as part of God’s mercy and grace but to receive the gift we must meet many conditions of endurance, overcoming, surrender, and dying to self. The bar of worthiness for being a disciple (follower) of Jesus was set very high by the KING.)


Once saved always saved = Demons (If we do not endure and finish the journey we can fall away from faith and like the original Jewish people can be cut off the vine and these branches will be gathered and thrown into the fire. (John 15 and Romans 11:22). There is eternal security but it presupposes one stays following Jesus and does not wander off the narrow path led astray by the deceitfulness of sin.)


Christians cannot have demons = Demon Doctrine (Demons and deliverance from them is necessary to clear the land of the enemy and find true peace that transcends all understanding. We are the living stones that make up the spiritual temple of the Lord. Deliverance is only for the children of God, i.e. “Christians” and believing demons automatically leave when one comes to faith is one of the most insidious demonic doctrines that have taken hold in the apostate churches. Jesus said in my name you will cast out devils…, which were idle words if they left automatically.)


God hear all your prayers = Doctrine of demons (Children in covenant with the Lord have their prayers answered. We can ask for anything in His name and He said He will do it (John 14:14). Yet the prayers of those outside of covenant or in rebellion to covenant are not even heard says the Lord (Proverbs 1:28). He turns His face away and our sins separate us from the Lord (Isaiah 59). We need to repent and turn our hearts back to Him to have our prayers heard much less answered.)


The gifts of the Holy Spirit have ceased = Doctrine of demons (Jesus said we would do the works He did and even greater works. We need the power of the Holy Spirit and the gifts to perform the kingdom work in all fullness. The bible is not perfect as men have touched it so perfect has not come. The reason so little of the professing church has no power is because they do not believe and have not dealt with sin in the congregation.)


The nation of Israel is God’s Israel = Doctrine of demons (The children of God were NEVER children of the flesh. The heirs to the promise given to Abraham are those born again of the spiritual seed of Isaac. There has always only been one Vine, one church and one Bride. We must be Born Again to be God’s people and even Nicodemus was supposed to know this but did not. The modern-day nation of Israel is not the Israel of God. Romans 9 – All Israel is not Israel yet Romans 11- All Israel shall be saved. The everlasting sign of God’s people was the covenant of circumcision given to Abraham, this is a circumcision of the heart and that is who comprises the spiritual children of the Lord (Romans 2:28-29). The flesh wants to look to a modern nation as Israel yet Abraham himself was not looking for a piece of dirt, he was looking for a spiritual city and home (Hebrews 11:10).


God does not speak to us today = Doctrine of Demons (Unless God is speaking to you, you do not know Him, have not the Spirit of God and are not saved. Jesus said His sheep hear His voice and follow Him (John 10:27).


We must keep the Sabbath to be saved = Demon doctrine ( Romans 10:4 Christ is the end of the law for righteousness. Romans 3:21 Now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been manifested. The law of Moses was nailed to the cross at Calvary for those in covenant with the Lord. Keep the Sabbath if you wish and God will bless you as He blesses all that we do from a pure heart to glorify Him, but do not judge your brother on this issue (Romans 14:20). Romans 8:2 The law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set us free from the law of sin and death. Love is fulfillment of all the law.)

We are commanded to go to church = Demon Doctrine (The word church is a misnomer. The church is the called out people of God that He has chosen and is purifying by the sanctifying work of the Holy Spirit. The body of Christ is the church, they do not go to church yet they do seek to assemble and fellowship. What man calls church is a meeting house or an assembly place. We are called to fellowship but not with unbelievers and not with those practicing sin yet professing faith (1 Cor 5). We must separate from the ungodly (2 Cor 6). Yet we are encouraged to get together and meet with true brethren to break bread, take communion and to wash each others feet which means to purge sin from our midst.)


Universalism: God will save all He created = Demons (Jesus said that very few will be saved and find the way to eternal life. God is the potter and we are the clay and the potter has reserved for Himself the right to make vessels destined for mercy and vessels destined for wrath. This growing Universalism movement that is wrapped in a perverted concept of God’s ”love” is leading many to the pits of hell with a false happiness that is really is a God sent delusion in response to their love of unrighteousness in their hearts (2 Thess 2:12)


We will all be raptured away before tribulation comes = Demon Doctrine (Jesus will come on the LAST DAY of this earth as He spoke 4 times in John 6. The wicked are taken first by a spiritual destruction that comes about by the powers of darkness that apostasy ignores. This is the feast of demons. The way to the kingdom of God is thru great tribulation as even the story of Shadrach makes perfectly clear. This rapture doctrine is of the flesh and is demonic and many will fall away and grow in unbelief as this earth continues in ever-increasing darkness. The peace and safety delusion is going to give way to destruction and that destruction will begin in the house of God and is spiritual. It has already started in earnest.)

The Bible is or is not the Word of God = Demon doctrine (The Bible is the written WORD of God but remains a dead letter or dead book unless one is Born Again of the Spirit of God. Flesh cannot discern the hidden and deep meanings and symbolism in the Bible on its own intellect and strength. God must show it to you. But when the Spirit comes, if you seek Him, the Bible comes alive with revelation and wisdom to all that fear the Lord. Studying the Bible without the Spirit is fruitless and will not save anyone without repentance. Let him who has ears, hear the WORD of God. Jesus the living WORD that lives inside of us will reveal to His servants what the written WORD means and these instructions will help guide us on the narrow path that leads to eternal life.)

We are Born Again the moment we come to faith = Demon doctrine (Our faith is tested and proven by God and as we put to death the deeds of the flesh, only then are we Born Again. For something to be born again, something must first die. Jesus told us in John 12 that a grain of wheat must first fall to the ground and die before it can come back to life and bear fruit. A seed does not bear fruit and break forth from the soil until it has first died, taken root then is brought forward in newness of life.)


The Bible must only be interpreted literally = Demon doctrine (There is literal meaning and historical revelation in Scripture, however, the entire Bible is written with metaphors, types and symbols that also convey deep and hidden spiritual understanding that is consistent throughout. The Spirit of God must show us this meaning as Jesus spoke in parables, metaphors and riddles so that the wise in the flesh would not understand (Matthew 13:13-17). Many of the visions and prophecies were also given when the Apostles were in the “spirit” and are clearly written in symbolism that is amazingly consistent in the entire Bible.)


Jesus finished all the works, we have nothing to do = Doctrine of demon (Jesus definitely finished His work yet all that claim to have faith have many things they must be doing that confirm faith and love for Jesus. All our work is done being led by the Holy Spirit (true grace) yet we must diligently labor to carry out the will of God for our life. (Hebrews 4:11). If we choose eternal life, we must accept the words of Jesus. This means to DO the things Jesus commanded. He told us to DO many things: believe, obey, deny ourselves, forgive, lose our life, love one another, fear God, endure, overcome, hear, teach, make disciples, carry a cross, follow Him, repent, be baptized, purify ourselves, pray, seek Him etc. etc. These action verbs are His commandments that He has spoken and will speak to us thru the Spirit of God. Work out your salvation with fear and trembling for it is Christ who works in you both to will and to work for His good pleasure


Jesus will come to establish a kingdom and rule on this earth for 1,000 years = Demon doctrine (Jesus is ruling and reigning on the throne right now and those Born Again are ruling and reigning with Him. True brethren are already seated in the heavenly’s (Eph 2:6) and know that the Kingdom of God is not of this world. We are in the world but not of the world and Jesus is going to establish new heavens and a new earth and all that we know today will be burned with fire. )


Jesus is not God = Demons demons demons (Jesus is God and is the Lord that created everything. The King spoke through His prophets and is the Holy One of Israel, the Lord of Hosts, the Redeemer, Creator, Prince of Peace, the Alpha and the Omega (beginning and the end) and is the ALL-IN-ALL for all whom truly believe. God spilled His own blood to redeem man from the curse of sin. Satan is using this as a very important doctrine to sow unbelief and division within the house of God. It is foolish of men to think we can understand and know all the things of God. Jesus and the Father are ONE. Great indeed is the mystery of Godliness.)


Thank you........................
 
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"But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons," 1 Timothy 4:1


NAR/Dominionism/Kingdom Now theology = Doctrine of demons.

Tounges saves you = Demons

You cant be Holy, and you cant even stop sinning = Doctrine of DEMONS, DEMONS, DEMONS

You will be a glorified God on earth = Demons, DEMONS, Doctrine of DEMONS

You Don't Have to fear the LORD = DOCTRINE OF DEMONS!!!!!! - (ONLY way to walk the highway of holyness.)

the above are mine the rest are taken from HERE in its entirety--> Top 50 Doctrines of Demons Truth In Scripture


Christians are not suposed to be judging = DEMONS DOCTRINE, We judge RIGHTEOUSLY, we judge ungodliness, and seperate for those who practice such things, WE DONT judge the WORLD, but the body, flushing out SIN

Faith means simply believing Jesus is saviour = DEMONS!!! DEMONS DEMONS!! - (Jesus is not our Savior if He is not first our Lord. Faith is not just believing about Jesus, it is believing Jesus and submitting to all that He says and trusting in Him and the promises given to all that follow Him in obedience. Otherwise our faith is not genuine. Even demons believe(and shudder) Jesus is the Son of God and died on a cross which does not constitute the completeness of a saving faith.)

God is only love, and loves ALL = Demon Doctrine (God hates the wicked and all that practice unrighteousness and rebel against His Covenant. He is merciful and will take everyone back who turns their hearts back to Him but if we walk in rebellion, the wrath of God is already abiding upon us)

Grace is Blanket Forgiveness for all sin, past present future = Doctrine of DEMONS (Grace is the enabling power of the Holy Spirit that gives us the ability to overcome sin, the world and the powers of darkness.)

The Teaching of Obedeience being WORKS = Doctrine of Demons! (We obey because we are saved not to be saved but if we do not practice obedience we clearly are not saved. A true works salvation is teaching any other way of salvation besides being led by the Holy Spirit. The Spirit of God will lead us into all righteousness and we will sin not.)


Salvation is a ONE TIME event not a journey = Doctrine Demons (We must overcome and endure all the way to the end, moving on to maturity in a salvation walk along the highway of holiness. Once called by God, we must finish the race God has set before us. It is correct to say we are saved and are being saved but we must continue following Jesus until He call us home.)

The Gift of eternal life has no conditions attached to it = Demons (The gift of eternal life is given unmerited as part of God’s mercy and grace but to receive the gift we must meet many conditions of endurance, overcoming, surrender, and dying to self. The bar of worthiness for being a disciple (follower) of Jesus was set very high by the KING.)


Once saved always saved = Demons (If we do not endure and finish the journey we can fall away from faith and like the original Jewish people can be cut off the vine and these branches will be gathered and thrown into the fire. (John 15 and Romans 11:22). There is eternal security but it presupposes one stays following Jesus and does not wander off the narrow path led astray by the deceitfulness of sin.)


Christians cannot have demons = Demon Doctrine (Demons and deliverance from them is necessary to clear the land of the enemy and find true peace that transcends all understanding. We are the living stones that make up the spiritual temple of the Lord. Deliverance is only for the children of God, i.e. “Christians” and believing demons automatically leave when one comes to faith is one of the most insidious demonic doctrines that have taken hold in the apostate churches. Jesus said in my name you will cast out devils…, which were idle words if they left automatically.)


God hear all your prayers = Doctrine of demons (Children in covenant with the Lord have their prayers answered. We can ask for anything in His name and He said He will do it (John 14:14). Yet the prayers of those outside of covenant or in rebellion to covenant are not even heard says the Lord (Proverbs 1:28). He turns His face away and our sins separate us from the Lord (Isaiah 59). We need to repent and turn our hearts back to Him to have our prayers heard much less answered.)


The gifts of the Holy Spirit have ceased = Doctrine of demons (Jesus said we would do the works He did and even greater works. We need the power of the Holy Spirit and the gifts to perform the kingdom work in all fullness. The bible is not perfect as men have touched it so perfect has not come. The reason so little of the professing church has no power is because they do not believe and have not dealt with sin in the congregation.)


The nation of Israel is God’s Israel = Doctrine of demons (The children of God were NEVER children of the flesh. The heirs to the promise given to Abraham are those born again of the spiritual seed of Isaac. There has always only been one Vine, one church and one Bride. We must be Born Again to be God’s people and even Nicodemus was supposed to know this but did not. The modern-day nation of Israel is not the Israel of God. Romans 9 – All Israel is not Israel yet Romans 11- All Israel shall be saved. The everlasting sign of God’s people was the covenant of circumcision given to Abraham, this is a circumcision of the heart and that is who comprises the spiritual children of the Lord (Romans 2:28-29). The flesh wants to look to a modern nation as Israel yet Abraham himself was not looking for a piece of dirt, he was looking for a spiritual city and home (Hebrews 11:10).


God does not speak to us today = Doctrine of Demons (Unless God is speaking to you, you do not know Him, have not the Spirit of God and are not saved. Jesus said His sheep hear His voice and follow Him (John 10:27).


We must keep the Sabbath to be saved = Demon doctrine ( Romans 10:4 Christ is the end of the law for righteousness. Romans 3:21 Now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been manifested. The law of Moses was nailed to the cross at Calvary for those in covenant with the Lord. Keep the Sabbath if you wish and God will bless you as He blesses all that we do from a pure heart to glorify Him, but do not judge your brother on this issue (Romans 14:20). Romans 8:2 The law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set us free from the law of sin and death. Love is fulfillment of all the law.)

We are commanded to go to church = Demon Doctrine (The word church is a misnomer. The church is the called out people of God that He has chosen and is purifying by the sanctifying work of the Holy Spirit. The body of Christ is the church, they do not go to church yet they do seek to assemble and fellowship. What man calls church is a meeting house or an assembly place. We are called to fellowship but not with unbelievers and not with those practicing sin yet professing faith (1 Cor 5). We must separate from the ungodly (2 Cor 6). Yet we are encouraged to get together and meet with true brethren to break bread, take communion and to wash each others feet which means to purge sin from our midst.)


Universalism: God will save all He created = Demons (Jesus said that very few will be saved and find the way to eternal life. God is the potter and we are the clay and the potter has reserved for Himself the right to make vessels destined for mercy and vessels destined for wrath. This growing Universalism movement that is wrapped in a perverted concept of God’s ”love” is leading many to the pits of hell with a false happiness that is really is a God sent delusion in response to their love of unrighteousness in their hearts (2 Thess 2:12)


We will all be raptured away before tribulation comes = Demon Doctrine (Jesus will come on the LAST DAY of this earth as He spoke 4 times in John 6. The wicked are taken first by a spiritual destruction that comes about by the powers of darkness that apostasy ignores. This is the feast of demons. The way to the kingdom of God is thru great tribulation as even the story of Shadrach makes perfectly clear. This rapture doctrine is of the flesh and is demonic and many will fall away and grow in unbelief as this earth continues in ever-increasing darkness. The peace and safety delusion is going to give way to destruction and that destruction will begin in the house of God and is spiritual. It has already started in earnest.)

The Bible is or is not the Word of God = Demon doctrine (The Bible is the written WORD of God but remains a dead letter or dead book unless one is Born Again of the Spirit of God. Flesh cannot discern the hidden and deep meanings and symbolism in the Bible on its own intellect and strength. God must show it to you. But when the Spirit comes, if you seek Him, the Bible comes alive with revelation and wisdom to all that fear the Lord. Studying the Bible without the Spirit is fruitless and will not save anyone without repentance. Let him who has ears, hear the WORD of God. Jesus the living WORD that lives inside of us will reveal to His servants what the written WORD means and these instructions will help guide us on the narrow path that leads to eternal life.)

We are Born Again the moment we come to faith = Demon doctrine (Our faith is tested and proven by God and as we put to death the deeds of the flesh, only then are we Born Again. For something to be born again, something must first die. Jesus told us in John 12 that a grain of wheat must first fall to the ground and die before it can come back to life and bear fruit. A seed does not bear fruit and break forth from the soil until it has first died, taken root then is brought forward in newness of life.)


The Bible must only be interpreted literally = Demon doctrine (There is literal meaning and historical revelation in Scripture, however, the entire Bible is written with metaphors, types and symbols that also convey deep and hidden spiritual understanding that is consistent throughout. The Spirit of God must show us this meaning as Jesus spoke in parables, metaphors and riddles so that the wise in the flesh would not understand (Matthew 13:13-17). Many of the visions and prophecies were also given when the Apostles were in the “spirit” and are clearly written in symbolism that is amazingly consistent in the entire Bible.)


Jesus finished all the works, we have nothing to do = Doctrine of demon (Jesus definitely finished His work yet all that claim to have faith have many things they must be doing that confirm faith and love for Jesus. All our work is done being led by the Holy Spirit (true grace) yet we must diligently labor to carry out the will of God for our life. (Hebrews 4:11). If we choose eternal life, we must accept the words of Jesus. This means to DO the things Jesus commanded. He told us to DO many things: believe, obey, deny ourselves, forgive, lose our life, love one another, fear God, endure, overcome, hear, teach, make disciples, carry a cross, follow Him, repent, be baptized, purify ourselves, pray, seek Him etc. etc. These action verbs are His commandments that He has spoken and will speak to us thru the Spirit of God. Work out your salvation with fear and trembling for it is Christ who works in you both to will and to work for His good pleasure


Jesus will come to establish a kingdom and rule on this earth for 1,000 years = Demon doctrine (Jesus is ruling and reigning on the throne right now and those Born Again are ruling and reigning with Him. True brethren are already seated in the heavenly’s (Eph 2:6) and know that the Kingdom of God is not of this world. We are in the world but not of the world and Jesus is going to establish new heavens and a new earth and all that we know today will be burned with fire. )


Jesus is not God = Demons demons demons (Jesus is God and is the Lord that created everything. The King spoke through His prophets and is the Holy One of Israel, the Lord of Hosts, the Redeemer, Creator, Prince of Peace, the Alpha and the Omega (beginning and the end) and is the ALL-IN-ALL for all whom truly believe. God spilled His own blood to redeem man from the curse of sin. Satan is using this as a very important doctrine to sow unbelief and division within the house of God. It is foolish of men to think we can understand and know all the things of God. Jesus and the Father are ONE. Great indeed is the mystery of Godliness.)
No thank you.................
 

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"But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons," 1 Timothy 4:1

The gifts of the Holy Spirit have ceased = Doctrine of demons (Jesus said we would do the works He did and even greater works. We need the power of the Holy Spirit and the gifts to perform the kingdom work in all fullness. The bible is not perfect as men have touched it so perfect has not come. The reason so little of the professing church has no power is because they do not believe and have not dealt with sin in the congregation.
DISAGREE.

and i would be very careful saying the Divinely ordained purpose of the foundational offices and gifts listed in the NT ceasing exactly as He planned when the full body of revealed scripture was COMPLETE (PERFECT) is a DOCTRINE OF DEMONS.

context: historical corrective letter to the christians at corinth nearly 2000 years ago.
subject: partial revelatory gifts as the foundation was being laid and scripture completed:

1 Corinthians 13:10
but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away.

5046. teleios

having reached its end, i.e. complete, by ext. perfect
Original Word: τέλειος, α, ον
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: teleios
Phonetic Spelling: (tel'-i-os)
Short Definition: perfect, full-grown
Definition: perfect, (a) complete in all its parts, (b) full grown, of full age, (c) specially of the completeness of Christian character.

complete (2), mature (4), more perfect (1), perfect (12).

Cognate: 5046 téleios (an adjective, derived from 5056 /télos, "consummated goal") – mature (consummated) from going through the necessary stages to reach the end-goal, i.e. developed into a consummating completion by fulfilling the necessary process (spiritual journey). See 5056 (telos).

[This root (tel-) means "reaching the end (aim)." It is well-illustrated with the old pirate's telescope, unfolding (extending out) one stage at a time to function at full-strength (capacity effectiveness).]

complete, perfect, mature
From telos; complete (in various applications of labor, growth, mental and moral character, etc.); neuter (as noun, with ho) completeness -- of full age, man, perfect.
 
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Deadflesh

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gb9, these things you said are interesting,mostly true as well, but should,nt we go to church?
Faith cometh by heraing, and hearing by the word of God, and the pracher sent of God?
Woulnd,t this be the falling away, the law is to let us know our sin.
Jesus bless you.
What is the Church damombomb? Or shoudl i say Who? the Bible says WE are, all of those who have the spirit of God, adn are led by the spirit of God, ARE the saints, the CHURCH. WE are the temple of the holy spirit. What you GO to, is a meeting house, or a steeple house, or what have you. the EARLY church met EVERYWHERE in houses in upperrooms of INNs, on solomons porch, out side in side, where EVER two or three are gathered There HE is.

So to call a building, CHURCH, is takign the emphasis OFF of the holy spirit in the person, changing what the Bible says, and making it about man. It puts MAN at the head, and not Jesus. it centers around MAN.

Other then that, MOST "churches" are false, preaching a fasle gospel, teachign tithing(law, not NT, in the NT you give out of your heart, and basically ALL you have is the LORDS, so yes GIVE but dotn make it mandatory other wise "go wont bless you" The Modern apostate church is invisible, just like JESUS body, GODS true Church is invisible, and unversal. There are TWO churches, the double minded, harlot, who fornicates, and JESUS he HUSBAND does NOT have all of her heart, and then there is the VIRGIN pure holy bride of CHRIST the CHASTE Virtuous Woman. SHE is the one who has the HEART of her Husband.

Now The MODERN apostate fallen away Church is on MANY levels. NOT JUST fasle charismatics, but fasle baptists, false catholics, false EVERYONE, Its babylon, the harlot SPIRITUAL Jerusalem. its the SPIRITUAL version of the OT physical. If you notice Jesus saved a remenant of PHSYICAL Israel, from WHORE jerusaelm. Well Jesus will ALSO save a remnant of SPIRITUAL Israel(jews and gentiles in christ) who come out of The Whore Mystery babylon. The WHORE is the greater visible Church(that is uniting) and the birde is a part of the lesser Spiritua Church(that is uniting) Jesus said COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE HIS peopel would never bee in physical jerusalem. HIS people how ever are smack dab in the center of the WHORE of babylon, the apostate SPIRITUAL Jerusalem. not TRUE spiritual Jerusalem.

SO CHURCH is not how it ever really should have been, in the first place, but that aside, MODERN "Churchianity" is fallen away(its has allready started and been starting) it teaches doctrine of demons. and im not saying ALL Physical buildings called Church are bad, But the Great majority are. And if they arent at the moment, SOON they all will be, or they will come out of babylon.

MOST apostate churches are NOT even preachign the TRUE Word of GOD, they are preaching Teachings of MEN, and doctrine of demons, they mix with the world, they have not been seperate in centuries, they take Yesterdays manna(word, bread of life)(or last years, or 25 years agao) and keep dipping it in sugar to make it palatable. its a sugar coated WORD, twisted to tickle ears, and make peopel fel comrotable with sin. and its a OLD word that wont make anyone grow. MOST modern chrchs are spiritualy dead. But they have enough glitz and glamour to get you in. Or if not glitz and glamour, then knowledge and credentials. If not knowledge and credentials, then Social programs, and a fasle "humanity" where they care MORE about the physical well being(which i am ALLL For) but they neglect the SPIRITUAL growth. they neglect Puttign an emphasis on repentance, nad not just ONCE but living a LIFE of repentance. Jesus said DENY SELF DAILY. what is denial but a complete TURN from it. and what is REPENTANCE but a complete 180 degree turn from YOU, from SELF. We must DIE To desire, and self, and put to DEATH the sin nature. there seems to be more SAYING this which is an improvement, but then they still have a part in the world, whci we are told to be seperate from, they MIX Politics and religion which e were NEVER supposed to do under this NEW covenant, becasue our kingdom is HEAVENLY and not of this world.


SO im not saying there are NO preacher/pastors who are of God, but just very very few. and it wil lget fewer and fewer. The LOVE OF MANY WILL WAX COLD is apon us, and its not lack of Humanistic "love" but the LOVE of GOD, the LOVE of JESUS. who HATES sin in his fathers house(Us) and wants us to KNOW HIM we cant KNOW GOD with out the MIND of JESUS, and we cant have the mind of JEsus unles we KNOW jesus. and we cant know jesus unless we OBEY him. not very many OBEY JEsus, and LOVE jesus with 100% of there heart, soul mind and strength. they still have somthing that comes before HIM, and they dont even see it. But they dont see it, because they dont love the truth about somthing. Thats why its time for ALL those who claim the name of JESUS, to humble themselves and see JESUS, we should NEVER stop seeking JESUS ,to knwo him more, to love him more, NEVER stop thanksgiving and prayer wit hout ceasing, NEVER stop spending time in his presence whic was made possible BY jesus. HE tore the curtain. NOW we can come to the throne, but ONLY if we are walkign in covenatn with THE LORD. Covenatn with the LORD is LOVE. Sprit. LOVE GODS love. whic his OUTSIDE of the carnal natrue. MODERN "chruch" intensifies flesh nature, and carnal nature, if its not by Signs and wonders and false healing(there are TRUE of every counterfit) and feathers adn gold dust fallign from the sky, And "Prophets" who show off, and are aLL about finance, and self, and boast in SELF, and leae holyness and SPOTLESNESS from the WORLD out of it, THEY are the fakes. If its not by them, then its by the ones who meld Politics with religion adn say we MUST have both. You cant its one or the other. GOD will see that ALL his true children see that. if not now SOON. as they draw near him. If its not all that, Then its those who GLORIFY diplomas, and knowledge(all mens wisdom) they worship the pastors who seem "holy" becasue they memorised the bible. Or they follow those who PReach grace, but you cant have GRACE with out the SPIRIT OF GRACE and the SPIRIT OF GRACE gives us GRACE to STOP SIN.

But you will hardly find anyone who preaches this. ...THIS is the great falling away. its a falling away into rebellion to GODS WORD. and HIS perfect HOLY RIGHTEOUS will. That can ONLY be saught in humity, ONLY be saught and reached in dying to SELF and SEEKING HIM. and giving UP self, desire, and our will, FOR HIS WILL. Strainign to hear HIS voice and to know HIS HEART. to KNOW HIM is salvation, to know HIM in his suffering, THAT is the fellowship the children of GOD share in. HIS sufering, Suffering in the flesh, resiting SIN, and the eventual Suffering and hatred of the WORLD for ALL who want to live Goly, and holy lives.

ANY gospel that doesnt conform you to GODS nature. is False. and aboart of the FALLING away. it comes on AMNY levels, and ONLY JESUS throug hhis SPIRIT can show you if YOU are willign to huble self, pray to be taken out of ALL deception adn SEEK to KNOW him in his suffering, and righteousness, seek HIS KINGDOM first. have faith in waht HE Said, adn what HE told us to do, deny deny deny, paul steped it up to DIE ot self, CRUCIFY the flesh. PUT TO DEATH the deeds of the flesh. Dotn have them any more, and focus on never having them again DAILY, its not YOUR job to stop sin, its YOUR job to obey, and GOD will make sure that you see eery oneping to STOP sin, as you get closer to him. HE cleans us. its him, but its OUR job to go to him for the washing, its our job to go to HIM to know HIM and be conformed to HIM.


Thank you for reading this. And THIS is what i ment by CHURCH is not a place you GO TO. YES we should fellowship with LIKE MiNDED(midn of christ) individuals, but we should NOT fellowship with Those who Claim to be a brother, yet continue to live in sin. In FACT those are the ones we should PUT OUT.

1 Corinthians 5:9-13
"I wrote to you in an letter not to company with fornicators(mixers with the WORLD, many translate this as sexually immoral...whic hof course is PART of the world, but FORNICATES means like the WHORE of BABYLON who FORNICATES with the WORLD): Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortionists, or with idolaters; for then must you needs go out of the world. But now I have written to you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortionist; with such an one no not to eat. For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not you judge them that are within? But them that are without(out of the church, in the world) God judges. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person"


Mark 9:42-48
"And whoevershall offend one of these little ones(talkign about ACTUAL chilren, and talking about NEW beleivers, chidlren in JESUS) that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea. And if your hand offend you, cut it off: it is better for you to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: Where their worm dies not, and the fire is not quenched. And if your foot offend you, cut it off: it is better for you to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: Where their worm dies not, and the fire is not quenched. And if your eye offend you, pluck it out: it is better for you to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: Where their worm dies not, and the fire is not quenched."

This is talkign about PERSONAL Body, that we should get rid of ALL thigns that casue us to SIN. and its ALSO talking about the SPIRITUAL body, which is the CHURCH all saints we fellowship with. if THEY cause the body to sin, CUT THEM OFF, or as PAUL said, Put them out.

Is important to be PURE holy and blameles. We Are NOT that just becasue we Say "lord lord" with our mouth. ALL churches who are NOT teachign this are BABYLON. They are the fallen away, apostate church. And the HOYL SPIRIT said, that Judgemnt begins at the HOUSE OF GOD(you, the church, all those who claim to be BROTHER) becasues if the RIGHTEOUS are scarcly saved, what about the wicked?

1 Peter 4:18
"For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly(form of godliness) and the sinner(people still call themselves sinenrs, and say they ALWAYS will be....ok) appear?"


So do you see maybe why CHURCH is not to be ouf focus, but JESUS JESUS JESUS and pleasing HIM? OBEYING HIM? LOVING GOD?

Jesus Bless you. too.
 
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DISAGREE.

and i would be very careful saying the Divinely ordained purpose of the foundational offices and gifts listed in the NT ceasing exactly as He planned when the full body of revealed scripture was COMPLETE (PERFECT) is a DOCTRINE OF DEMONS.

Ok. Taken to heart.

(the Following isnt to argue, so if you came back with a retort, i will not answer, it is to contimplate ,and pray about, if you want to)

Did GOD ever say, that the perfect was Scripture? is Paul even talking about scripture(or even the WORD of GOD) in that context...should we be VERY carefull as to NOT add, or take away from what GOD said? So isnt saying the BIBLE is the perfect, and NO MORE GIFT MANIFESTATIONS borderline putting WORDS INTO GOds mouth? ISnt that close to MAN saying I KNOW WHAT GOD DID?

Doesnt SOLA SCRIPTURA mean that SCRIPTURE is the final athourity? Well SCRIPTURE doesnt say that SCRIPTURE is the perfect, so arent you going OUT SIDE of SCRIpture, and on to a teachig nof MAN to say that the BIBLE is the perfect? when PAUL was obviously talking about the PERFECT LOVE of GOD, being made manifest in us?(which will not be completed untill we are LIKE he TRULY is?) If we are to love like JESUS loved(which is a comand), we are NOT close to that yet as a BODY. Not anywhere close, but we are on the way. So that means PERFECT LOVE has not yet arived. it MAY have arived in a few people on this planet in 2000 years, but NOT as a whole for the body...so...Please, YOU becarefull as wel.
 

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WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU AREN'T PLEASING ENOUGH DF?
if you died tomorrow, would you be pleasing enough?
 

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Ok. Taken to heart.

(the Following isnt to argue, so if you came back with a retort, i will not answer, it is to contimplate ,and pray about, if you want to)

Did GOD ever say, that the perfect was Scripture? is Paul even talking about scripture(or even the WORD of GOD) in that context...should we be VERY carefull as to NOT add, or take away from what GOD said? So isnt saying the BIBLE is the perfect, and NO MORE GIFT MANIFESTATIONS borderline putting WORDS INTO GOds mouth? ISnt that close to MAN saying I KNOW WHAT GOD DID?

Doesnt SOLA SCRIPTURA mean that SCRIPTURE is the final athourity? Well SCRIPTURE doesnt say that SCRIPTURE is the perfect, so arent you going OUT SIDE of SCRIpture, and on to a teachig nof MAN to say that the BIBLE is the perfect? when PAUL was obviously talking about the PERFECT LOVE of GOD, being made manifest in us?(which will not be completed untill we are LIKE he TRULY is?) If we are to love like JESUS loved(which is a comand), we are NOT close to that yet as a BODY. Not anywhere close, but we are on the way. So that means PERFECT LOVE has not yet arived. it MAY have arived in a few people on this planet in 2000 years, but NOT as a whole for the body...so...Please, YOU becarefull as wel.
did you see what the definition of perfect is? complete?

three things remain after the gifts ceased:

faith
hope
love

when will faith and hope no longer be needed DF?
 
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WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU AREN'T PLEASING ENOUGH DF?
if you died tomorrow, would you be pleasing enough?

:) thats not up to me, its up to JESUS. I Have FAITH in HIS words that HE said be holy like my father in heaven is holy. If HE said it, then its possible. if he said LOVE like me, then its possible. if the HOLY spirit said WALK IN ME and you WONT give into the desires of the flesh i have faith in HIS words. Its not up to me to be pleasing enough Zone, but to Obey, and seek HIM more, and to know HIS heart. and to submit to HIM so HE can help me(cant do it with out him) to put to DEATH the deeds of the flesh) if YOU dont want to. thats fine. if YOU think that we can never be pure adn blameless, if YOU think Jesus died for nothing thats fine. Im not lookign to be perfect, but obedeient, and as far as the BIBLE says, if you are OBEDEINT then the SPIRIT leads YOU to be perfect. so my goal isnt perfection but OBedience, and eekign to KNOW MY GOD here now, and be completely seperate(in my heart) from the World. I hope that soon is EVERYONES goal. Love you. JEsus bless you.
 

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DF,thank you for repling, Yes i do understand about babylon and the false churches and holiness.
Thank you.
Be blessed!In Jesus name!
 

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:) thats not up to me, its up to JESUS. I Have FAITH in HIS words that HE said be holy like my father in heaven is holy. If HE said it, then its possible. if he said LOVE like me, then its possible. if the HOLY spirit said WALK IN ME and you WONT give into the desires of the flesh i have faith in HIS words. Its not up to me to be pleasing enough Zone, but to Obey, and seek HIM more, and to know HIS heart. and to submit to HIM so HE can help me(cant do it with out him) to put to DEATH the deeds of the flesh) if YOU dont want to. thats fine. if YOU think that we can never be pure adn blameless, if YOU think Jesus died for nothing thats fine. Im not lookign to be perfect, but obedeient, and as far as the BIBLE says, if you are OBEDEINT then the SPIRIT leads YOU to be perfect. so my goal isnt perfection but OBedience, and eekign to KNOW MY GOD here now, and be completely seperate(in my heart) from the World. I hope that soon is EVERYONES goal. Love you. JEsus bless you.
are you pleasing/obedient enough today DF?