3 1/2 years

[dcontroversal]

3.5 years is only 1260 days if you use uniform 30 day months; which neither the lunar nor the solar calendar does!

Yep....and the bible states it in the following way...

3.5 years or 42 months or 1260 days......you do the math

 

[tourist]

Re: the 3 1/2 year and the 1,260 days/ 1,290 days. Peole say whats the 30 day diffrence.
Here is my thougts
The 1260 days is the first half of the one "7" and the second half which is 1,290 days because in thats 3 1/2 years includes a leap year which includes an ectra month which is 30 days then when u add 45 days waiting period its 1335 days.

Any thoughts

A leap year does not have an extra month, only an extra day in February.

 

[MarcR]

Yep....and the bible states it in the following way...

3.5 years or 42 months or 1260 days......you do the math

Rv 11:2-3
2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
KJV


21*30+21*29= 1239 +58=1297 days in 3.5 lunar years a 29 day 'leapyear' occurs 7 times every 19 years.

4*3.5=14*30=420
28*29= 812 -3=809+420=1229 days in 3.5 solar years.

30*42=1260 in 3.5 imaginary years which do not exist on any calendar.

You do the math!

 

[MarcR]

Rv 11:2-3
2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
KJV


21*30+21*29= 1239 +29=1268 days in 3.5 lunar years a 29 day 'leapyear' occurs 7 times every 19 years.

4*3.5=14*30=420
28*29= 812 -3=809+420=1229 days in 3.5 solar years.

30*42=1260 in 3.5 imaginary years which do not exist on any calendar.

You do the math!

sorry about the double post edit timed out before I caught the error

 

[MarcR]

A leap year does not have an extra month, only an extra day in February.

Lunar years add a 29 day month 7 times every 19 years. the years with 13 months are lunar leap years.

 

[dcontroversal]

Rv 11:2-3
2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
KJV


21*30+21*29= 1239 +58=1297 days in 3.5 lunar years a 29 day 'leapyear' occurs 7 times every 19 years.

4*3.5=14*30=420
28*29= 812 -3=809+420=1229 days in 3.5 solar years.

30*42=1260 in 3.5 imaginary years which do not exist on any calendar.

You do the math!

Everything above does not matter with all due respect bro.....the bible breaks it down to three time frames listed in Revelation and Daniel....

3.5 years or 42 months or 1260 days <---applied unto the great tribulation, two witnesses and rule of the beast

Daniel 12 exactly 1335 days left to deal with the children of Daniel's people (Jews)

1260 days off of 1335 days leaves exactly 75 days which is broken down by the 1290 days mentioned and the 1335 days mentioned in Daniel 12

We must interpret what is coming in light of these facts....regardless of any calendar made by any nationality and or world power

 

[MarcR]

Everything above does not matter with all due respect bro.....the bible breaks it down to three time frames listed in Revelation and Daniel....

3.5 years or 42 months or 1260 days <---applied unto the great tribulation, two witnesses and rule of the beast

Daniel 12 exactly 1335 days left to deal with the children of Daniel's people (Jews)

1260 days off of 1335 days leaves exactly 75 days which is broken down by the 1290 days mentioned and the 1335 days mentioned in Daniel 12

We must interpret what is coming in light of these facts....regardless of any calendar made by any nationality and or world power

I certainly agree! my point was simply that those Biblical truths leave several unanswerable questions in light of the mention of 3.5 years (42 months).

 

[Ahwatukee]

Everything above does not matter with all due respect bro.....the bible breaks it down to three time frames listed in Revelation and Daniel....

3.5 years or 42 months or 1260 days <---applied unto the great tribulation, two witnesses and rule of the beast

Daniel 12 exactly 1335 days left to deal with the children of Daniel's people (Jews)

1260 days off of 1335 days leaves exactly 75 days which is broken down by the 1290 days mentioned and the 1335 days mentioned in Daniel 12

We must interpret what is coming in light of these facts....regardless of any calendar made by any nationality and or world power

Just FYI D, the 1260 days (mentioned twice), the 42 months and a time, times and half a time, are covering the entire seven years and not just the last 3 1/2 years.

The time of prophesy of two witnesses of 1260 days takes place from the beginning of the seven years to the middle of the seven years. In support of this, when Satan and his angels are cast out of heaven and restricted to the earth, from that time the woman/Israel flees out into the wilderness where she is cared for 1260 days, which is that last 3 1/2 years. Therefore, if the time of prophesy of the two witnesses began at the middle of the seven to the end, the people of Israel would not be in Jerusalem to hear the two witnesses because they will have fled out into the wilderness.

 

[dcontroversal]

Just FYI D, the 1260 days (mentioned twice), the 42 months and a time, times and half a time, are covering the entire seven years and not just the last 3 1/2 years.

The time of prophesy of two witnesses of 1260 days takes place from the beginning of the seven years to the middle of the seven years. In support of this, when Satan and his angels are cast out of heaven and restricted to the earth, from that time the woman/Israel flees out into the wilderness where she is cared for 1260 days, which is that last 3 1/2 years. Therefore, if the time of prophesy of the two witnesses began at the middle of the seven to the end, the people of Israel would not be in Jerusalem to hear the two witnesses because they will have fled out into the wilderness.

Yeah I don't believe that...thanks anyway and where does it state that they are specifically applied unto Israel?....the last time I checked the remnant of Israel believes when they look upon him whom they pierced NOT at the preaching of the two witnesses which testify to the world......

 

[celib]

"My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am."

In the scripture above, Jesus says that he is going to the Father's house to prepare dwelling places for us. And that he is coming back to take us back with him that where he is we (believers) may be also. So at some point Jesus will return to come and take the church back to the Father's house, which could only be referring to heaven. The following is a detailed account of His return:

"For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. Therefore encourage one another with these words."

In the scripture above, the Lord descends from heaven and the dead in Christ are resurrected. Then those in Christ who are still alive will be changed and caught up with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, where according to John 14:1-3, the Lord will take the entire church back to the Father's house.

Anyone who says they don't understand this is either purposely denying it because they've adopted the teachings of false teachers or there is definitely a veil over their spiritual eyes, because the scriptures are very clear in their meaning regarding this event.

I personally don't use the word "rapture" but stick with the original Greek "Harpazo" which means " properly, seize by force; snatch up, suddenly and decisively , force suddenly exercised." This is the same word used when Paul said that he was "caught up" to the third heaven and the same word used when the male child is "caught up" to God's throne and the same word used when Philip was "snatched away" from the Eunuch.

In 1 Thess.4 we find the subject in verse 13 and the subject is where are the dead, verse 14 states that those who have died in Christ will be coming with him when he returns, verse 15 we cant prevent those that died in Christ from returning, verse 16 on the trump of God which is the seventh trump the Lord himself shall descend from heaven and the dead in Christ shall rise first because they already rose there with him, verse 17 then those who are alive, the elects will be gathered or caught up in a cloud, that is a large crowd and meet the Lord in our spiritual body then we are taken to Jerusalem where the millinum temple will be and start Judgment day. God bless

 

[Nehemiah6]

Yeah I don't believe that...thanks anyway and where does it state that they are specifically applied unto Israel?....the last time I checked the remnant of Israel believes when they look upon him whom they pierced NOT at the preaching of the two witnesses which testify to the world......

The two witnesses are there to preach primarily to the Jews, and they end up killed in Jerusalem. So it is not the believing remnant of Israel whom they address, but the unbelieving Jews. In Revelation 11:

1. The temple of God is in Jerusalem

2. The holy city is another name for Jerusalem

3. The great city where our Lord was crucified is Jerusalem

4. "Sodom and Egypt" describes the spiritual condition of Jerusalem during the reign of the Antichrist

5. One tenth of Jerusalem is destroyed with an earthquake following the resurrection of the two witnesses

 

[jb]

Re: the 3 1/2 year and the 1,260 days/ 1,290 days. Peole say whats the 30 day diffrence.
Here is my thougts
The 1260 days is the first half of the one "7" and the second half which is 1,290 days because in thats 3 1/2 years includes a leap year which includes an ectra month which is 30 days then when u add 45 days waiting period its 1335 days.

Any thoughts

You can find a blog Here that I did on it...

 

[posthuman]

Lunar years add a 29 day month 7 times every 19 years. the years with 13 months are lunar leap years.

Israel kept years this way after the Babylonian captivity - the names for their months are even Babylonian - but there's no mention of inserting an extra month once in a while in the scripture, is there? & returning from Babylon, they started adding a day from one month and giving it to another, or otherwise moving days around, in order to avoid having sabbaths too close to certain feasts, or to 'make' a festival lie closer to an equinox, right? something that the Babylonian calendar also appears to have done.

is this the way that Moses kept months and years?

i mean, are you guys even using the right "years" or is this all something that was adopted from Babylon? it is pretty much the Babylonian calendar - so did Babylon happen to keep the 'right' calendar? did they adopt the Hebrew calendar? or did the Hebrews come back from Babylon - the place where Daniel prophesied about thinking to change the times - with a 'changed' way of keeping the times, or is this how they always did? does anyone know?

 

[dcontroversal]

The two witnesses are there to preach primarily to the Jews, and they end up killed in Jerusalem. So it is not the believing remnant of Israel whom they address, but the unbelieving Jews. In Revelation 11:

1. The temple of God is in Jerusalem

2. The holy city is another name for Jerusalem

3. The great city where our Lord was crucified is Jerusalem

4. "Sodom and Egypt" describes the spiritual condition of Jerusalem during the reign of the Antichrist

5. One tenth of Jerusalem is destroyed with an earthquake following the resurrection of the two witnesses

I highly recommend employing all the verbiage applied unto the two witnesses........and exactly how many people rejoice and where are they and what do they do when the two witnesses are killed.....