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It can only be a very good thing, imho! When one soaks in the presence of the LORD then one can indeed "awaken" a renewed person in Christ! Therefore, it is a truly wonderful way of establishing that needed closeness especially when one is undergoing some trial in their life. This should not ever be seen as a cult since you are 'soaking' in the presence of God not something man-made!
For more on this and for those who want to understand further about this Christian method of communing with God, you may wish to visit the following fine website:
Soaking Prayer Center - What is soaking
Thank you for this posting! May God bless you and everyone who makes a sincere effort to follow Him and become closer to Him.
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God embraces and smiles upon those who remember Him in prayer! -- HeavenlyWarrior <*>>>>><
For more on this and for those who want to understand further about this Christian method of communing with God, you may wish to visit the following fine website:
Soaking Prayer Center - What is soaking
Thank you for this posting! May God bless you and everyone who makes a sincere effort to follow Him and become closer to Him.
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God embraces and smiles upon those who remember Him in prayer! -- HeavenlyWarrior <*>>>>><
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Emergent church. Mixing eastern mysticism with Christianity. From what i've read it originated in the Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship, barking, animal sounds, moaning, rocking, laughing, paralysis, drunkeness 'in the spirit'.
You lay still, or lay down, with music on, and 'empty your mind' of everything but God. Then just 'soak' in His 'presence'. Personally it sounds a lot like the mellow version of drunk or slain in the spirit. Some kind of 'experience' that you have to keep up to keep you feeling 'close' to God.
You lay still, or lay down, with music on, and 'empty your mind' of everything but God. Then just 'soak' in His 'presence'. Personally it sounds a lot like the mellow version of drunk or slain in the spirit. Some kind of 'experience' that you have to keep up to keep you feeling 'close' to God.
I know of a guy who fasted for 40 days and nights (Jesus in him of course), and he said that all he did the whole time was read during the daytime, and prayed from dark until he either fell asleep, or didn't. I would consider that one correct method, solitude, but I know that no matter where we are we are in the presence of God when we're born again. I've never "soaked" in the method this thread is about, but my guess is that it started out with purity and then it started to become not as pure.
I love you all.
I love you all.
Warm greetings,
I sensed there may be some who may have difficulties with the term "soaking" as they may have heard other things from other sources, things that the website that was pointed to does not at all say takes place. What it does mention is God and the Holy Spirit when one is 'soaking'. And that says it all, so what part of God and the Holy Spirit do some not understand?
How many of you have meditated or do meditation I wonder? And I'm not saying that you need to cross your legs, hum, and hold your finger tips together. I know many Christians meditate as there is nothing wrong with meditating. But there may be some who would try to discourage that practice perhaps saying that it is like 'Eastern Meditation' as just described. But what they may not know is that the word 'meditation' is actually in the Holy Bible!
It is one of David's psalms. He goes on to say "Hearken unto the voice of my cry, my king, and my God: for unto thee will I pray. My voice shalt thou hear in the morning, O LORD; in the morning will I direct my prayer unto thee, and will look up." -- PSALMS 5:2-3 (KJV)
Therefore, and again, when one 'meditates' such as what David did, they are communing with God just as when they 'pray' and when they 'soak'. If it were not God with whom we were soaking, then there would be real dangers to be aware of. But it IS very much God to whom they and we soak and we Christians are not trying to reach 'discarnate entities', spirits, etc. No One Else But GOD, solely God, that much should be plainly understood. Of course, no one is being forced to pray nor to meditate, nor to soak if they do not feel led or do not wish to do so. That is left up entirely to your free will as to how you wish to reach God. But whatever method you employ, if it is God you are reaching, it can only be GOOD!
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Pray The LORDS Prayer and the Twenty-Third Psalm. -- Heavenly Warrior <*>>>>><
I sensed there may be some who may have difficulties with the term "soaking" as they may have heard other things from other sources, things that the website that was pointed to does not at all say takes place. What it does mention is God and the Holy Spirit when one is 'soaking'. And that says it all, so what part of God and the Holy Spirit do some not understand?
How many of you have meditated or do meditation I wonder? And I'm not saying that you need to cross your legs, hum, and hold your finger tips together. I know many Christians meditate as there is nothing wrong with meditating. But there may be some who would try to discourage that practice perhaps saying that it is like 'Eastern Meditation' as just described. But what they may not know is that the word 'meditation' is actually in the Holy Bible!
Listen to this. "Give ear to my words, O LORD, consider my meditation." -- PSALM 5:1 (KJV)
It is one of David's psalms. He goes on to say "Hearken unto the voice of my cry, my king, and my God: for unto thee will I pray. My voice shalt thou hear in the morning, O LORD; in the morning will I direct my prayer unto thee, and will look up." -- PSALMS 5:2-3 (KJV)
Therefore, and again, when one 'meditates' such as what David did, they are communing with God just as when they 'pray' and when they 'soak'. If it were not God with whom we were soaking, then there would be real dangers to be aware of. But it IS very much God to whom they and we soak and we Christians are not trying to reach 'discarnate entities', spirits, etc. No One Else But GOD, solely God, that much should be plainly understood. Of course, no one is being forced to pray nor to meditate, nor to soak if they do not feel led or do not wish to do so. That is left up entirely to your free will as to how you wish to reach God. But whatever method you employ, if it is God you are reaching, it can only be GOOD!
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Pray The LORDS Prayer and the Twenty-Third Psalm. -- Heavenly Warrior <*>>>>><
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David prayed and meditated on the word.
Which made him smarter than his teachers.
To just be still and open your mind to the Holyspirit is not
taught anywhere in the bible.
What do you do with the random thought? How do you know where
they are coming from?
Why isnt it in the bible anywhere?
Now if it was prayer...making petitions and such, or meditating (thinking over)
the word like David did..then great.
Which made him smarter than his teachers.
To just be still and open your mind to the Holyspirit is not
taught anywhere in the bible.
What do you do with the random thought? How do you know where
they are coming from?
Why isnt it in the bible anywhere?
Now if it was prayer...making petitions and such, or meditating (thinking over)
the word like David did..then great.
First time I've seen or heard of it.
I think the alarming aspect is not so much what is "happening" to those who do this, but the fact that it seems to be being taught to others with expectations of certain specific things happening to them also.
Another made up "qualifier" for those who search for "qualifiers"?
In other words, if your new church teaches you to "soak", and all you feel is like taking a nap, sooner or later you're gonna get up and call BS, or you're gonna convince yourself that you saw a vision or spoke with God or whatever they claim happens, when you didn't.
Know'w'm sayin?
I think the alarming aspect is not so much what is "happening" to those who do this, but the fact that it seems to be being taught to others with expectations of certain specific things happening to them also.
Another made up "qualifier" for those who search for "qualifiers"?
In other words, if your new church teaches you to "soak", and all you feel is like taking a nap, sooner or later you're gonna get up and call BS, or you're gonna convince yourself that you saw a vision or spoke with God or whatever they claim happens, when you didn't.
Know'w'm sayin?
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Christian meditation is NOT eastern meditation. Here's how Christian meditation works:
1. You put on some Christian worship music (they have Christian "soaking" music for this quiet time which is mellow Christian worship music).
2. You ask God to come spend some quiet time with you.
That's it!
It isn't Yoga. It isn't Buddhism. It isn't Hari Krishna. It isn't occultic. All it is: is quiet time with the Lord.
You can do it by yourself or you can do it as a group.
Interesting note: Christian healing rooms like to use do Christian soaking (e.g. sitting quietly with God while some quiet Christian worship music plays) because they want people to get close to God so he can heal them. It's also good for those who suffer from panic attacks and anxiety disorder.
1. You put on some Christian worship music (they have Christian "soaking" music for this quiet time which is mellow Christian worship music).
2. You ask God to come spend some quiet time with you.
That's it!
It isn't Yoga. It isn't Buddhism. It isn't Hari Krishna. It isn't occultic. All it is: is quiet time with the Lord.
You can do it by yourself or you can do it as a group.
Interesting note: Christian healing rooms like to use do Christian soaking (e.g. sitting quietly with God while some quiet Christian worship music plays) because they want people to get close to God so he can heal them. It's also good for those who suffer from panic attacks and anxiety disorder.
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Well theres more to it than that...I think it would be great to listen to praise music
or christian music and worship.Thats one of the reason im sure music was given to us.
And we know God ordered it in the temple...it was said it could be heard for miles.
Stuff there messing with now has scientifically altered music to work
on brainwave patterns to effect the mind in different ways.
Some experiment with the penal gland...some just puts you
into a state to open the mind without control. Im talking about special made soaking music.
Not just Christian music, or classical or whatever.
or christian music and worship.Thats one of the reason im sure music was given to us.
And we know God ordered it in the temple...it was said it could be heard for miles.
Stuff there messing with now has scientifically altered music to work
on brainwave patterns to effect the mind in different ways.
Some experiment with the penal gland...some just puts you
into a state to open the mind without control. Im talking about special made soaking music.
Not just Christian music, or classical or whatever.
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No. There isn't more to it than that. I've done it many times at my church.
No special rays, no hypnotism, no loss of control, no nothing like you're making it out to be. Just Christians sitting quietly listening to mellow Christian worship music and praying. Christian soaking is all about quiet time with God and intimacy with God. That's all it ever was.
No special rays, no hypnotism, no loss of control, no nothing like you're making it out to be. Just Christians sitting quietly listening to mellow Christian worship music and praying. Christian soaking is all about quiet time with God and intimacy with God. That's all it ever was.
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Yes, there is other soaking music.
I didnt mean you were doing it. You already said what you did.
Ive done the same all my life. And as a Christian ive always loved
using music. There never was the name soaking but im all for that.
This is not what im talking about. There is more to soaking music
than what your doing.
I didnt mean you were doing it. You already said what you did.
Ive done the same all my life. And as a Christian ive always loved
using music. There never was the name soaking but im all for that.
This is not what im talking about. There is more to soaking music
than what your doing.
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I've been to healing room soakings and Vineyard church soakings and they are exactly as I said.
There is no deliberate brain wave manipulation to turn people into zombies... lol.
Furthermore, years ago I did used to listen to mood altering alpha, beta, theta, and delta brain wave soundtracks that were supposed to manipulate and they didn't turn me into a zombie either. You have quite an active imagination.
There is no deliberate brain wave manipulation to turn people into zombies... lol.
Furthermore, years ago I did used to listen to mood altering alpha, beta, theta, and delta brain wave soundtracks that were supposed to manipulate and they didn't turn me into a zombie either. You have quite an active imagination.
Yes, there is other soaking music.
I didnt mean you were doing it. You already said what you did.
Ive done the same all my life. And as a Christian ive always loved
using music. There never was the name soaking but im all for that.
This is not what im talking about. There is more to soaking music
than what your doing.
I didnt mean you were doing it. You already said what you did.
Ive done the same all my life. And as a Christian ive always loved
using music. There never was the name soaking but im all for that.
This is not what im talking about. There is more to soaking music
than what your doing.
I have ran across a lot of that stuff on video and music sites, and you can tell there's just something about it that feels like it came from a chemical plant.
Like eating garden green beans vs the plastic looking canned ones that taste like chlorine and grass.
And I don't think it's the same as when people cried "rock and roll is evil", or "psychedelic hippy music is evil", rap and so on... This stuff really feels like it came from a dark place, and rides on something that otherwise might be pleasant.
Like eating garden green beans vs the plastic looking canned ones that taste like chlorine and grass.
And I don't think it's the same as when people cried "rock and roll is evil", or "psychedelic hippy music is evil", rap and so on... This stuff really feels like it came from a dark place, and rides on something that otherwise might be pleasant.