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natturefrk

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I was just wondering what the truth is to this. I was recently told by my father who is christian that that christian rock is unacceptable and is not God centered music because it feeds the flesh and not the spirit. It was always my belief that the type of music doesnt matter as long ad the message is positive and it is the.right one. In the bible it says to pass on His word. Or am I taking that out of context because I read the only purpose for christian music is to worship Him. I am asking this because this were I feel closest to Him. What is really the right type of music to be listening to as a christian?
 

Nautilus

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I was just wondering what the truth is to this. I was recently told by my father who is christian that that christian rock is unacceptable and is not God centered music because it feeds the flesh and not the spirit. It was always my belief that the type of music doesnt matter as long ad the message is positive and it is the.right one. In the bible it says to pass on His word. Or am I taking that out of context because I read the only purpose for christian music is to worship Him. I am asking this because this were I feel closest to Him. What is really the right type of music to be listening to as a christian?
Youre dad is wrong, no offense but it is an ongoing theme with the older generation. They hear music that doesnt sound like what they grew up with and it scares them. Now I believe in a God who is stronger than your decided genre of music and if someone says God cant use that genre of music to his good, then that individual is just clearly mistaken.
 
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hopesprings

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I agree with Nautilus. I don't think the genre of music matters much to God. He's bigger then that. We all have our own preferences for which sort of music we personally enjoy. Your dad enjoys one kind, you enjoy another. It's the message of the music that counts - and it depends on where your heart is as a listener. btw....my dad is the same way....lol....to each their own, I suppose.
 
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natturefrk

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Thank you, I believe in EXACTLY what you said 1000%. I belive that God uses any meduim, even genre of music, to speak His truth to you.
 
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BarlyGurl

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the genre is not of much consequence... but key is that it is actually...

MUSIC!!!!!!!
 

crossnote

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I don't know about a pos msg, my biggest beef with mtl etc. is that it usually is hard to understand the words being sung/screamed. I still think heaven's music will be closer to a Bach cantata than metal from Bloodgood. But hey, whatever floats your boat or tunes your coon.
 
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Rock and Roll.

Hard facts and testimonies coming down from the top of the mountain.

I am convinced that God likes rock and roll, and all types of music that are actual music.
 
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I was just wondering what the truth is to this. I was recently told by my father who is christian that that christian rock is unacceptable and is not God centered music because it feeds the flesh and not the spirit. It was always my belief that the type of music doesnt matter as long ad the message is positive and it is the.right one. In the bible it says to pass on His word. Or am I taking that out of context because I read the only purpose for christian music is to worship Him. I am asking this because this were I feel closest to Him. What is really the right type of music to be listening to as a christian?
This is how I see it,I love classic hymms,I love the substance and meat in those classics.I don't know how to sing most of them but love to read them.however with modern music I don't see much of theology,most of them are I love you,I love you ( am not saying all but most) I don't see a problem with good Christian songs but do feel weird about songs just written to fill the album.
I do believe we can worship God with music however,what if God puts u in a village where there is no electricity, dear brother am not trying to be hard, it will take much more than music to draw near to God.I see with most of our youth,their Christianity is defined by the music than the word of God
M not saying don't listen to music,well let me give you an example,I love Keith greens music,I listen to it almost everyday,however my worship doesn't depend upon his music being played at my back ground,
For me sometimes its all noise lol,just want to run away from everything and cry out to God he is worthy.
Probably your dad feels the same way,the theology in our modern Christian songs have been romanticized to death and feel good music.
God bless
Sam
 

Agricola

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I Also agree that style and genre dosnt really matter. Did you know demons can take any worship song or hymn and use that to glorify Satan with? Plenty of more modern priase and worship songs do not really mention Jesus or God by name and do not specificlly mention the blood or cross etc, so without those things, demons do sing along with the congregation and take it to satan. That alone should tell you how silly it is to blame a certain style of music.
 
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kenisyes

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I bet I'm almost old enough to be your dad's father. I've been in Christian music my whole life. He is wrong. Well, maybe he's right for him, but he's wrong for you. Besides, you're 27 years old. Go where God leads you.
 
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dru

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i listen to c. rock and i dont think its harmful.although some bands/singers are not legit in accordance to christianity e.g tobymac-atleast thats what i heard.also rock and roll means-sex in the back seat of a car(thats how the name came about.rock meaning the sex and roll meaning in motion) just like hip hop is a religion not a music genre like most people think.my advice is you keep listening to the music but be watchful. I dont think your eternity in God's presence is at risk,just do alittle research.
 
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dru

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I bet I'm almost old enough to be your dad's father. I've been in Christian music my whole life. He is wrong. Well, maybe he's right for him, but he's wrong for you. Besides, you're 27 years old. Go where God leads you.
hahahahahahahahahaha(a tear just rolled down my right cheek)
 

Jon4TheCross

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I listen to Skillet, Third Day, Fireflight (which does have a scream here and there unfortunately), and those are rock bands. I always have to wonder why they are screaming though. I listen to songs that are great, and then the screaming just doesn't set well with me. Anybody have any ideas on the reason why the screams in songs? If it is simply to sound hard, then I think that's a bad reason to scream. I don't like screaming, and God doesn't either if it's to sound hard (and there are other reasons why God doesn't like screaming). I'm not judging why a person screams, just wondering why? I'm talking about the screams that sound horrible, not the Skillet type of shouting singing lol, if that makes sense. Yup, I don't understand why people scream in music.
 
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psychomom

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I was just wondering what the truth is to this. I was recently told by my father who is christian that that christian rock is unacceptable and is not God centered music because it feeds the flesh and not the spirit. It was always my belief that the type of music doesnt matter as long ad the message is positive and it is the.right one. In the bible it says to pass on His word. Or am I taking that out of context because I read the only purpose for christian music is to worship Him. I am asking this because this were I feel closest to Him. What is really the right type of music to be listening to as a christian?
Hey, kiddo. :)

I am easily old enough to be your mom (we have three kids your age or older...:rolleyes:)

In your dad's defense, I have to agree with Sam that much of contemporary Christian music has lyrics that might as well be secular. :(
I'm talking about ALL genres, not just rock.

I grew up listening to Springsteen, so...yeah, the yelling is kinda familiar. ;)
But if you can't understand it, or the lyrics don't actually glorify God, what use is it?

That said, who are we to say an entire genre of music is devoid of the Holy Spirit? :)
And as far as worship goes, a song that just praises God's greatness causes me to worship.
But a song that speaks to other qualities, like mercy, or the fact that the Lord does so much for us also causes me to worship because it glorifies the Lord. :)

I guess what really matters is what's happening in your own heart.
Is it just feeding the fleshly appetite for music you 'like'?
Or is it feeding your spirit and giving God glory in your heart? (if that even makes sense...)

So I also agree with Ken in that, you're a grown man now.
No one can make that decision but you.

grace to you,
ellie

ps--I pray you will have grace for your father. It's super hard for some parents (like me!) to 'let go'. ♥
 
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Should we as believers be allowed to discern in our life what is of God and what is not? Before I was saved I was in and part of the world and I listened to its music just like most people. That music feed one thing in my life, MY SOUL. It did not feed my spirit because my spirit was dormant and did not come alive as the candle of the Lord until I was born again of the incorruptible seed of God's word, which lit up and gave light to my human spirit for the first time making me God-conscious. As a God-conscious believer with the incorruptible seed in me, I could begin to discern what is of God and what is not, what feeds my spirit and what only feeds my soul which is connected to my flesh.

I had tendencies toward some of that music that was attached to my soul and it took a work of God's grace and filling my soul with God's word to change all that. There was never any condemnation in that work, but a conversion took place and I learned how to let God feed my spirit and how to discern those things that only feed my soul apart from God. There is a process and a conversion that takes place in the spirit and soul of the believer that transforms him and fills his life with the things of God. Do you think perhaps this is what your Dad was referring to?
 

zone

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This is how I see it,I love classic hymms,I love the substance and meat in those classics.I don't know how to sing most of them but love to read them.however with modern music I don't see much of theology,most of them are I love you,I love you ( am not saying all but most) I don't see a problem with good Christian songs but do feel weird about songs just written to fill the album.
I do believe we can worship God with music however,what if God puts u in a village where there is no electricity, dear brother am not trying to be hard, it will take much more than music to draw near to God.I see with most of our youth,their Christianity is defined by the music than the word of God
M not saying don't listen to music,well let me give you an example,I love Keith greens music,I listen to it almost everyday,however my worship doesn't depend upon his music being played at my back ground,
For me sometimes its all noise lol,just want to run away from everything and cry out to God he is worthy.
Probably your dad feels the same way,the theology in our modern Christian songs have been romanticized to death and feel good music.
God bless
Sam
i agree sam.
love zone.
 

Nautilus

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I listen to Skillet, Third Day, Fireflight (which does have a scream here and there unfortunately), and those are rock bands. I always have to wonder why they are screaming though. I listen to songs that are great, and then the screaming just doesn't set well with me. Anybody have any ideas on the reason why the screams in songs? If it is simply to sound hard, then I think that's a bad reason to scream. I don't like screaming, and God doesn't either if it's to sound hard (and there are other reasons why God doesn't like screaming). I'm not judging why a person screams, just wondering why? I'm talking about the screams that sound horrible, not the Skillet type of shouting singing lol, if that makes sense. Yup, I don't understand why people scream in music.
Its just the style of music....I dont think God cares if the song has screaming or not


For example:
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggqjW4RrEuI[/video]



Still a christian band...
 
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Rock and Roll.

Hard facts and testimonies coming down from the top of the mountain.

I am convinced that God likes rock and roll, and all types of music that are actual music.

rock 'n' roll - a genre of popular music originating in the 1950s; a blend of black rhythm-and-blues with white country-and-western; "rock is a generic term for the range of styles that evolved out of rock'n'roll."

The word “roll” has been used since the Middle Ages to refer to, among other things, having sex: “Let’s go for a roll in the hay”; “Rolling under the sheets”; etc. The word “rock”, again among other things, has been used since at least the 17th century as a term meaning “shake or disturb”. A couple hundred years later, this had also spread to black gospel singers as referring to being shaken in a spiritual sense, as in spiritual rapture (rocked). By the early 20th century “rock” had morphed somewhat to being used as a slang term by black Americans referring to dancing to music with a strong beat, principally rhythm and blues, then called “race music” or “race records”. The specific 1922 slang definition of “rock” was something to the effect of “to cause to move with musical rhythm”; it also usually had strong sexual overtones when used in this way.
Around this same time, these two terms, rock and roll, had naturally merged together, forming a double entendre, typically referring to very suggestive or scandalous dancing as well as simply having sex, depending on how you looked at it. One example of this is the 1922 song “My Man Rocks Me, with One Steady Roll”.

Another early reference to the term “rock and roll” was a 1935 J. Russel Robinson lyric from Henry “Red” Allen’s Get Rhythm in Your Feet and Music in Your Soul, “If Satan starts to hound you, commence to rock and roll. Get rhythm in your feet and music in your soul…” So, at least at this point, the evidence is that the term “rock and roll” was relatively well known, at least among black Americans. This particular tune was also then covered by quite a few popular white musicians, such as Benny Goodman, which may have helped spread this phrase somewhat. The term got its biggest global boost through a Cleveland, Ohio disk jockey named Alan Freed. Freed played early forms of rock and roll (mix of rhythm and blues and country music, primarily) on his radio show and called the mix “rock and roll”, a term he was previously familiar with from race records and songs such as “Rock and Rolling Mama” (1939) and “Rock and Roll” (there were three songs named this in the late 1940s).

Freed was encouraged to call this mix of music “rock and roll” by his sponsor, record store owner Leo Mintz, who was trying to boost sales on race records by getting white shoppers to buy them. Race records weren’t very popular at the time among white shoppers, but by re-branding the music “rock and roll”, the music became extremely popular among teenagers of this group, largely thanks to Freed’s radio show, The Moondog Rock & Roll House Party, and getting rid of the stigma of the name “race records”. (Incidentally, classic style “race records” were in the process of being re-branded around this same time to Rhythm and Blues, thanks to famed music journalist and producer Jerry Wexler.) In any event, Freed’s show was the principle reason why Cleveland was chosen for the location of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in the 1980s. When deciding between cities, the selection board chose Cleveland owing to Freed having played a significant role in popularizing rock and roll music and the branding the style of music “rock and roll”, though he obviously didn’t coin the term itself, as noted previously.


Bonus Facts:
  • A similar brand of music to “rock and roll” was “rockabilly”, which was a style of music that was a cross between country music, rhythm, and blues (as was rock and roll), but leaned more heavily on the country side of things, instead of the rhythm and blues side, and was played primarily by white musicians. The term itself is a portmanteau of rock (from “rock and roll”) and “hillbilly”. Popular rockabilly artists included Elvis Presley, Buddy Holly, Jerry Lee Lewis, and Johnny Cash. The influence of rockabilly music is clearly seen on early British rock and roll, particularly in the case of the Beatles.
  • Country music was originally called “hillbilly music”. In the 1940s, Ernest Tubb helped re-brand this type of music “country music”. Tubb: “‘Hillbilly, that’s what the press use to call it, ‘hillbilly music.’ Now, I always said, ‘You can call me a hillbilly if you got a smile on your face.’ We let the record companies know that they were producing country music ’cause we all come from the country.”
  • One of the first songs credited for starting the rock and roll craze was the song “Rock Around the Clock”, by Bill Haley & His Comets. The song wasn’t terribly successful at first, but was used a year after its release in the movie Blackboard Jungle. This spurred it on to becoming one of the biggest music hits in history, at the time, and helped introduced rock and roll to mass audiences throughout the planet.
  • The word “rock” is thought to have Celtic origins and comes to us through the Old English “rocc”, meaning “stone or obelisk”.
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Do we as believers want to identify with a genre of music called 'rock' or 'rock n roll' when it has this kind of history and would be safe to assume that its origins are from this world and not from any source of heaven that involves the throne of God or the tabernacle that God has made among men?
 
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AgapeSpiritEyes

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What i think or believe about genre of music does not sway God or validate some music as Holy Spirit produced, it is God who knows the heart and then the soul and the spirit, God will only allow what His Holy Spirit inspires in every vibration in heaven in our souls our spirit, my opinion does not obtain approval or sway God about what he accepts and what flows from His Spirit through to me out of me and toward Him and also unhindered to others, not all the music is in the Holy Spirit even if the words are right God will appraise for gold, silver and precious stones and there will be wood, hay and straw, so to try sympathize with someone or to tell someone that some type or form of music is approved of God is not my place but the vibrations that the Holy Spirit produces the presence and power of the Lord Jesus is the only proof of its fruit. God only Inhabits the praise of us who emanate our whole being to Him in Agape Love all other so called definitions of love or ideas of love will not be allowed even the love of some music types. When we gather to praise Him and if the vibrations from the twang of instruments are not what the whole assembly of believers in unity receive from the Holy Spirit it will block out the fullness of His habitation upon us, unity in the Holy Spirit to worship and praise with your heart, soul and spirit out of your mouth that must be spirit filled and emanate to Him if this does not then these hindrances have robbed the fullness of His inhabitation.