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They will use chaos to bring the nations together.
luciferan doctrine is to bring order out of choas. Im amazed that the world has been, even to this day in conflict, with all the advancements man has made thru "knowledge" yet when it comes to equality for all it uses the principle of order out of chaos,
skull and bones motto is "order out of chaos".
They will use chaos to bring the nations together.
luciferan doctrine is to bring order out of choas. Im amazed that the world has been, even to this day in conflict, with all the advancements man has made thru "knowledge" yet when it comes to equality for all it uses the principle of order out of chaos,
skull and bones motto is "order out of chaos".
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great sentiment, mine is that i hate this world because of its ruler to those that deny Christ yet i love His creation, to love THIS world is to be an enemy of God as it is written, so why would all creation moan for His return, death entered the world because of sin, once, the lamb sat with the lion in adams day, sin entered, the lion looked at the lamb as lunch.
come jesus come, the terrible day of our Lord
revelation tells us openly and honestly that thank God He intervenes when He does, noah was just an example, next time its for keeps.
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come jesus come, the terrible day of our Lord
revelation tells us openly and honestly that thank God He intervenes when He does, noah was just an example, next time its for keeps.
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Kris the bible tells us to look for heaven. This world is not the glorious world we are meant to be in. It is filled with horribleness. Some of us are in the glories of God right here on earth now. But what comes when Jesus comes to get us is millions and millions of times better. So of course we should all want that!
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Where does it say you should Earth in the bible? I want to know. Didn't he say that we are the shepherds of the planet? Being a shepherd and hating all your sheep is nonsensical. I'm sorry I just don't share your view point on this at all. It's like the parable of the talents where three guys were given money by their master and one hid it, and then the person who hid the money and had less money to show for it all that money was taken from him. If you are given a gift of a planet you should treat it like you would that money and try to make things as good as we can here. Isn't that the lesson that Jesus wanted us to get from that story?
If we weren't meant to be here then why are we here? We should want great things and desire to have them and have things be better for you, however why should you wait? Why not have it in this world?
If we weren't meant to be here then why are we here? We should want great things and desire to have them and have things be better for you, however why should you wait? Why not have it in this world?
You're right. What the bible is saying is that we should not let our earthly desires rule in our hearts. It says that money is the root of all evil (1 Timothy 6:10). It does not say that money itself is evil . It means that we shouldnt get greedy and worship money, which is why it is written that one cannot serve two masters, both God and money (Matthew 6:24). There is a big difference between wanting to be blessed with abundance and living for abundance. We should want to be blessed with it, but not live our lives for it.
by the way it is John 12:25 where it says he who loves their LIFE in this world shall lose it, but he who hates their LIFE shall keep it unto eternal life. You are correct in that it does not say to hate the world.
by the way it is John 12:25 where it says he who loves their LIFE in this world shall lose it, but he who hates their LIFE shall keep it unto eternal life. You are correct in that it does not say to hate the world.
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One more thing...
There are other verses that say we should hate the THINGS of this world but again it does not say hate the world. God created the world and made it beautiful for us to enjoy. What he doesnt want is for us to put a high value on the THINGS of this world (money, power, prestige, vanity, etc..)
There are other verses that say we should hate the THINGS of this world but again it does not say hate the world. God created the world and made it beautiful for us to enjoy. What he doesnt want is for us to put a high value on the THINGS of this world (money, power, prestige, vanity, etc..)
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Isn't money though a human construct? That really has to do with our society and not the Earth it's self. Also why would God give us the gift of life if God didn't want us to enjoy it? I take that verse in context with what he was saying in that I'm going to die but if you follow my teaching and are good then you will also be seen as good to God. As a way to tell people he knew he was going to die and not to worry we'd be together in the end.
If God made the Earth isn't it wrong to think it's not how God intended it to be? That wold mean that God makes mistakes and I don't think that's the case. Also I think the Devil will come back to God and all will be forgiven for everyone, because God is all loving.
If God made the Earth isn't it wrong to think it's not how God intended it to be? That wold mean that God makes mistakes and I don't think that's the case. Also I think the Devil will come back to God and all will be forgiven for everyone, because God is all loving.
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the word "SATAN" means enemy of God, he had his chance at repentance in heaven before he got kicked out like a bolt of lightning, it is written that whoever loves this world is an ememy of God, not hate His creation, the way it is with all the greed and apathy towards each other as part of His creation(remember He created man in His image(character) it is just a glimpse of hell on earth we live in yet the hell Jesus talks about is far far worse than here. Thats why we pray "your kingdom come, on earth as it is in heaven"
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I've always read that passage to be don't make the earth your God like with how Pagans have the Earth as a deity. This is because Christianity wasn't the main religion back then. Why else would Jesus say God did not send his son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him?
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I truly may not agree with all of His decisions as The President of The United States Of America as a citizen of this blessed of God nation but that does not give me the right to make Him beelzebub, if he is not a christian then I have no right to judge but proclaim to him the way of the master, but as a christian, a saint of the household of the faith I, we need to rebuke him, and restore him through righteous, and fervent prayer to The only true and wise God.
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we can hate "this world", we dont condemn the people in it, just the evil that prevails thru all forms of everyday life. Hell is real, satan is not given a 'get of jail card', materialism and wanting is the "world" Jesus was refering to, not to covet is a part of the10 commandments,(which were given as the base line of Gods character) yet this world has always lived in greed and injustice all mankind. centuries later with all our knowledge and still people die of starvation daily, yet there is enough provision on earth for all to be fed, economics dictate suffering???economics can and does get manipulated by mans greed, "root of all evil is the love of money" hence the vicious cycle goes down thruout history.
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Lol what president have you ever agreed with 100%? Also he is a Christian his dad is Muslim but he never became one, but even if he wasn't would you base who you support on that? So long as someone has the same ideals as I do wanting to keep America free and prosperous and help as much as they can Americans I really don't care what religion they are. Now if he was running for the head of the church then I would. We wouldn't want the Pope to be Hindu, but I do fear that if we don't keep the separation that the government would then influence the church in a bad way.
If you hate this world then you think God made it wrong? Also Jesus forgives, which is a quality lately when reading the forums it breaks my heart seeing people not going by his teaching. People want things, I don't see that as a bad thing. I want to help people as much as I can, and that's a thing. Maybe not physical but that idea is still something that is very real to me. I have seen too much kindness to think that people are all evil, and through education we can do great things. I think the root of all evil isn't money it's hatred. I know that's a common saying thrown around but people want money so they can do things for the people they love, and I don't see that logic as evil.
If you hate this world then you think God made it wrong? Also Jesus forgives, which is a quality lately when reading the forums it breaks my heart seeing people not going by his teaching. People want things, I don't see that as a bad thing. I want to help people as much as I can, and that's a thing. Maybe not physical but that idea is still something that is very real to me. I have seen too much kindness to think that people are all evil, and through education we can do great things. I think the root of all evil isn't money it's hatred. I know that's a common saying thrown around but people want money so they can do things for the people they love, and I don't see that logic as evil.
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i didnt write the bible, it is written that if you love this world your an enemy of God,not hate everyone in it, it is written also that the root of all evil is the love of money thats the teaching in written form from the bible, cause we as a people dont agree with what is written is the problem half the time.
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A lot of it has to do with context the reason he said is so that people would be humble, because that is the correct way to act. He used the world but in context meant it as being extravagant. I think the problem is when people use the bible to confirm their own biases, especially when it is to spread feelings of hate and despise. I highly doubt that was ever Gods intention, and the reason we were given hearts (metaphorically not biologically).
Earthly/worldly simply means not of God, not of the spirit of holiness, it doesnt literally mean from the earth although all material things actually do come from the earth. Money comes from paper that is made from trees. Gold comes from deep in the ground. Steel/iron, aluminum, copper..all mined from the earth. Rubber comes from rubber trees, etc..
I always thought Of Obama as the having the role of the antibaptist as one who paves the way for the antichrist to make in roads into America. His universalist beliefs have lead our nation's discussion away from the God of the Bible and covering up any form of Christian religion our nation has as not to offend the Muslim nations. He has fostered a very dangerous climate dependency in this country for poor and rich alike for government handouts which cements our need to be bailed out possibly by the antichrist for whom he is preparing the way.