1 corinthians 6:9-10

[carey]

Don't you realize that those WHO DO WRONG will not inherit the kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves, those who indulge in SEXUAL SIN or who WORSHIP IDOLS, COMMIT ADULTERY, DRUNKARDS, ARE ABUSIVE, MALE PROSTITUTES, HOMOSEXUALS, THIEVES, GREEDY PEOPLE, CHEATERS, none of these will inherit the kingdom of God

I used caps for an obvious (I hope) reason, why is it when we look at this scripture we really only take note of homosexuals not inheriting the kingdom of God, if we know that God is not partial, no sin is above another (except blasphemy of the holy spirit) why are we so fired up against homosexuality? I have never seen christians picket against politicians when we know they are greedy, liars, and cheaters. Could it be homosexuals disgust us? Is it because that sin is in your face? Honestly, why aren't we so against people that "do wrong, idol worship etc" or is it because we ourselves are listed in this scripture, but we would prefer to point out someone else's sin, rather than work on our own? Hmmm, something to ponder

 

[overthechill]

I believe it is because we are asked to accept homosexuality as an alternative normal behavior and not as a sin.

 

[carey]

Then what about the other sins? Are they not accepted? Not trying to play devils advocate here, I'm actually hoping this thread might open somebody's eyes

 

[Bryancampbell]

Then what about the other sins? Are they not accepted? Not trying to play devils advocate here, I'm actually hoping this thread might open somebody's eyes

Some assume the bigger, the worse, the lesser, less important. It's like staring at yourself in a mirror not seeing a serial killer in the back.

 

[overthechill]

Then what about the other sins? Are they not accepted? Not trying to play devils advocate here, I'm actually hoping this thread might open somebody's eyes

No. I don't think they are. Because all of us are convicted and understand sin (tree of knowledge, et al) we understand that all those things listed in 2 Cor 6:9-10 are evils. However, no one is asking me to accept drunk drivers as normal alternative driving. There is not a Veteran's of Greed national holiday and Las Vegas continues to get away with prejudicial banning of all cheats.

 

[john832]

Don't you realize that those WHO DO WRONG will not inherit the kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves, those who indulge in SEXUAL SIN or who WORSHIP IDOLS, COMMIT ADULTERY, DRUNKARDS, ARE ABUSIVE, MALE PROSTITUTES, HOMOSEXUALS, THIEVES, GREEDY PEOPLE, CHEATERS, none of these will inherit the kingdom of God

I used caps for an obvious (I hope) reason, why is it when we look at this scripture we really only take note of homosexuals not inheriting the kingdom of God, if we know that God is not partial, no sin is above another (except blasphemy of the holy spirit) why are we so fired up against homosexuality? I have never seen christians picket against politicians when we know they are greedy, liars, and cheaters. Could it be homosexuals disgust us? Is it because that sin is in your face? Honestly, why aren't we so against people that "do wrong, idol worship etc" or is it because we ourselves are listed in this scripture, but we would prefer to point out someone else's sin, rather than work on our own? Hmmm, something to ponder

I don't find homosexuality any more disgusting than any other sin. Sin is sin and as such incurs the death penalty...

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Which sin is it that did not cost Christ His life to forgive?

 

[1Christianwarrior316]

why are we so fired up against homosexuality?

The “fired up” (righteous judgment) in my opinion is justifiable. The churches are failing in their responsibility to keep the church spotless, without blemish because of the politically correct attitude that has entered the congregation. Scripture tells us what we are to do with those who continue to be disobedient to God’s Word.
1Co 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such a one no not to eat.
1Co 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
1Co 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

Sadly because of the hate the sin love the sinner attitude within the church it is allowing those who continue to be disobedient to God’s Word within the congregation. Therefore causing the church to be blemished.
The above verses instruct us to not keep company with those who commit such things and that we are to put away from among us these wicked people. Notice it doesn't just say the fornicator but also includes the covetous, the idolater, the railer, the drunkard, and the extortioner.

But this is what I see. I see those who defend Christ’s church and want to keep it pure, clean, spotless, without blemish going against those who with their politically correct attitudes who are allowing those who commit such things to remain within the church saying God will forgive them even if they continue in sin.

A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.

Is it no wonder that our Lord said, “ Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?"

 

[SpaceCowboy]

Paul says that when you judge someone like that your judging them because its something you do aswell. So really you just made a thread condemning yourself.

People get fired up to yell at homosexuals because a large majority of people are intolerant a-holes with no heart.

 

[OwenHeidenreich]

Paul says that when you judge someone like that your judging them because its something you do aswell. So really you just made a thread condemning yourself.

People get fired up to yell at homosexuals because a large majority of people are intolerant a-holes with no heart.

God tells us to judge ourselves, and also, if she was innocent it would not matter if she posts this thread. this thread could have opened her own eyes.
Thanks for this thread, but a lot of people say that "worshiping idols" means more than worshipping other Gods.

 

[carey]

[
Amen!
That is actually what I was hoping to see!
Maybe it's just me, but unfortunately I have been around alot of judgemental christians that see homosexuality and murder as being so much worse than the other sins listed. Sin is sin, I guess I really want to understand the issue, if one person is a greedy liar, ans another was a serial killer, but both accepted Jesus as Lord, then they are both saved, but some people don't see it that way

QUOTE=john832;1116938]I don't find homosexuality any more disgusting than any other sin. Sin is sin and as such incurs the death penalty...

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Which sin is it that did not cost Christ His life to forgive?[/QUOTE]

 

[carey]

I get what your saying, but HOW do we correct it? If we use condemnation, we push them away from Christ, if we completely ignore the person, how is that showing Christ love for His people? We MUST correct them with love, how is picketing the gay pride parade with signs saying "your going to hell" or God made Adam & Eve, not Adam and Steve, going to win them to Christ? Can you honestly say if you see a bbrother or sister in Christ and they are committing one of the above sins, that you would push them away? Or would you try to bring them back

The “fired up” (righteous judgment) in my opinion is justifiable. The churches are failing in their responsibility to keep the church spotless, without blemish because of the politically correct attitude that has entered the congregation. Scripture tells us what we are to do with those who continue to be disobedient to God’s Word.
1Co 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such a one no not to eat.
1Co 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
1Co 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

Sadly because of the hate the sin love the sinner attitude within the church it is allowing those who continue to be disobedient to God’s Word within the congregation. Therefore causing the church to be blemished.
The above verses instruct us to not keep company with those who commit such things and that we are to put away from among us these wicked people. Notice it doesn't just say the fornicator but also includes the covetous, the idolater, the railer, the drunkard, and the extortioner.

But this is what I see. I see those who defend Christ’s church and want to keep it pure, clean, spotless, without blemish going against those who with their politically correct attitudes who are allowing those who commit such things to remain within the church saying God will forgive them even if they continue in sin.

A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.

Is it no wonder that our Lord said, “ Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?"

 

[carey]

Paul says that when you judge someone like that your judging them because its something you do aswell. So really you just made a thread condemning yourself.

People get fired up to yell at homosexuals because a large majority of people are intolerant a-holes with no heart.

That actually sounds more like a secular statement, back it up with scripture please
oh, and by the way, I have many gay friends, this started because they complain that christians are mean and judging people that wouldn't give them the time of day, I suggest you get to know me first before throwing words around
Just a thought

 

[carey]

God tells us to judge ourselves, and also, if she was innocent it would not matter if she posts this thread. this thread could have opened her own eyes.
Thanks for this thread, but a lot of people say that "worshiping idols" means more than worshipping other Gods.

Thanks for the kind words


I actually do believe that an idol can be anything, actually anything you place before God is an idol, it cacan be money, a relationship, food, material, your job

 

[FIRE_of_ELIJAH]

Don't you realize that those WHO DO WRONG will not inherit the kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves, those who indulge in SEXUAL SIN or who WORSHIP IDOLS, COMMIT ADULTERY, DRUNKARDS, ARE ABUSIVE, MALE PROSTITUTES, HOMOSEXUALS, THIEVES, GREEDY PEOPLE, CHEATERS, none of these will inherit the kingdom of God

I used caps for an obvious (I hope) reason, why is it when we look at this scripture we really only take note of homosexuals not inheriting the kingdom of God, if we know that God is not partial, no sin is above another (except blasphemy of the holy spirit) why are we so fired up against homosexuality? I have never seen christians picket against politicians when we know they are greedy, liars, and cheaters. Could it be homosexuals disgust us? Is it because that sin is in your face? Honestly, why aren't we so against people that "do wrong, idol worship etc" or is it because we ourselves are listed in this scripture, but we would prefer to point out someone else's sin, rather than work on our own? Hmmm, something to ponder

I understand that verse in general point of view. It's not for the homosexuals alone but to the people who are capable of sinning. But dealing with the homosexuals,these verses should be used as a clear warning,it's different from judging them. Sadly,sometimes we are accused of being a judgmental person that we single out things. All we want is sharing the truth in order them to be aware of such perverse practice. Society is telling us that this is normal, How would you react as a christian? Do you want to go with the flow as the society told you? No way for me !! I'll stand by the truth no matter what the cause ! they can call me anything such as weird,homophobic,haters,judgmental,crazy,Jesusfreak etc...I don't care, as long as I know the Lord and He knows me likewise.

 

[4enlightment]

God tells us to judge ourselves, and also, if she was innocent it would not matter if she posts this thread. this thread could have opened her own eyes.
Thanks for this thread, but a lot of people say that "worshiping idols" means more than worshipping other Gods.

Matthew 4:10Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.’”

Matthew 6:24“No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.


Matthew 19:22When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.

Matthew 6:21For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

 

[4enlightment]

Then what about the other sins? Are they not accepted? Not trying to play devils advocate here, I'm actually hoping this thread might open somebody's eyes

John 8:4and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. ( It takes two to tango)

 

[carey]

John 8:4and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. ( It takes two to tango)

Actually there is a lot more going on in this scripture, the Pharasies brought the woman to Jesus to test Him, and what did Jesus say?
he who is without sin, cast the first stone

 

[carey]

I agree with you, but shouldn't it also be a clear warning regarding all the other sins as well? And why do we cast judgment so quickly? It is not for us to judge those that are still in the world, it is our job to witness, we plant the seed and God waters it, how can a seed be planted when we speak in condemnation? A seed is planted in love, if you garden, you are careful, not rough, the same should be applied when planting a seed of faith, in hope that they will come to Christ. And the only people we are to judge is fellow believers, but again we correct them with love

I understand that verse in general point of view. It's not for the homosexuals alone but to the people who are capable of sinning. But dealing with the homosexuals,these verses should be used as a clear warning,it's different from judging them. Sadly,sometimes we are accused of being a judgmental person that we single out things. All we want is sharing the truth in order them to be aware of such perverse practice. Society is telling us that this is normal, How would you react as a christian? Do you want to go with the flow as the society told you? No way for me !! I'll stand by the truth no matter what the cause ! they can call me anything such as weird,homophobic,haters,judgmental,crazy,Jesusfreak etc...I don't care, as long as I know the Lord and He knows me likewise.

 

[Elizabeth619]

Paul says that when you judge someone like that your judging them because its something you do aswell. So really you just made a thread condemning yourself.

People get fired up to yell at homosexuals because a large majority of people are intolerant a-holes with no heart.

This movement does play a large impact on society today, and that is why it's such a popular issue. Are the other sins ignored? Not necessarily, but just because people do not approve of others does not mean we have no heart. To condone something that is sin maybe loving them, but only in a wordly way. If you really cared about a persons soul, and their eternal life you would try to encourage others to turn from evil. Living a lifetime of pleasurable sin is not worth spending eternity separated from God.

This also goes for liars, thieves, fornicators, adulterers, etc.

Justifying sin is also something that God detests. Calling Christians a derogatory name like you just did is also considered an abomination.
Proverbs 17:15

 

[Elizabeth619]

I agree with you, but shouldn't it also be a clear warning regarding all the other sins as well? And why do we cast judgment so quickly? It is not for us to judge those that are still in the world, it is our job to witness, we plant the seed and God waters it, how can a seed be planted when we speak in condemnation? A seed is planted in love, if you garden, you are careful, not rough, the same should be applied when planting a seed of faith, in hope that they will come to Christ. And the only people we are to judge is fellow believers, but again we correct them with love

I believe alot of the problem today is that people seem to think we are more tolerant to other sins, and not tolerant of others. The fact is how many of us inadvertently condone adultery, and fornication yet condemn homosexuality? People have been in an uproar about homosexual marriage, and throw the bible at people while they completely accept other sins. None of it is right. It is hypocritical. Yet though laws have been passed, and people are "covered" because of rights this does not mean that we as Christians morally approve of the lives they live. Just because some situations are legal, and acceptable also doesn't mean we should sit back and allow other sins to take over, and infiltrate our own lives. As individuals we have the right to approve or disapprove of others choices. This by no means is an excuse to discriminate against others to where they are second class citizens. This isn't intolerance. This isn't hate. This is living by the Word of God.