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..........dunno........maybe they bowed down with a sincere and contrite heart, and asked the Holy Spirit to guide them in their labours........it's quite possible, dunno, I wasn't present.......just don't want to pass judgment on people I don't know.
Just a thought, but is it possible that we see one translation or another as "bias" because of our own "bias?" Just asking.....
Just a thought, but is it possible that we see one translation or another as "bias" because of our own "bias?" Just asking.....
"Thee" and "thou" are still used in the NASB-77 which is completely superior ("everybody knows") in every way to the "modern translation", the NASB-95.
Older bibles are better!
I will sell you the Apostle Paul's personal NASB for only $500,000 US dollars.
The NASB-77 is still in print as of 2008 (a bit overpriced though...)
Hebrew-Greek Key Word Study Bible (2008 AMG edition): NASB-77 Bible version, Hardbound (Key Word Study Bibles): Spiros Zodhiates, Dr. Warren Patrick Baker D.R.E.: 9780899577500: Amazon.com: Books
Older bibles are better!
I will sell you the Apostle Paul's personal NASB for only $500,000 US dollars.The NASB-77 is still in print as of 2008 (a bit overpriced though...)
Hebrew-Greek Key Word Study Bible (2008 AMG edition): NASB-77 Bible version, Hardbound (Key Word Study Bibles): Spiros Zodhiates, Dr. Warren Patrick Baker D.R.E.: 9780899577500: Amazon.com: Books
Anyone ever wish there was an "I really, really, really, really, really, really dislike" button?
Or that there was a "This post is just downright silly and childish" button?
I find myself thinking that sometimes.
My favorite translation? The Holy Spirit. When it comes down to it, ALL translations are just man's interpretations of what God said. Some are more accurate than others, but they are all just 2nd hand from God Himself. So when I'm reading the word, whether it be NIV, NASB, KJV, CJB or any other Hebrew-focused translation, the Holy Spirit can overcome any faulty translation. And the Holy Spirit HAS to be the one teaching me as I read it. If I'm not trusting in the Holy Spirit to teach me, convict me and change me, it doesn't matter how accurate my translation is. That doesn't mean we all shouldn't strive for accuracy in our reading, but it should put things into perspective for us.
Question: What happens to all of the 3rd world Christians who have nothing to read BUT the NIV that was given to them? Should the only Bibles they own be burned and should those who read it and believe it be guilty of being a Satanic conterfeit?
Everyone Relax,
Matt
Or that there was a "This post is just downright silly and childish" button?
I find myself thinking that sometimes.
My favorite translation? The Holy Spirit. When it comes down to it, ALL translations are just man's interpretations of what God said. Some are more accurate than others, but they are all just 2nd hand from God Himself. So when I'm reading the word, whether it be NIV, NASB, KJV, CJB or any other Hebrew-focused translation, the Holy Spirit can overcome any faulty translation. And the Holy Spirit HAS to be the one teaching me as I read it. If I'm not trusting in the Holy Spirit to teach me, convict me and change me, it doesn't matter how accurate my translation is. That doesn't mean we all shouldn't strive for accuracy in our reading, but it should put things into perspective for us.
Question: What happens to all of the 3rd world Christians who have nothing to read BUT the NIV that was given to them? Should the only Bibles they own be burned and should those who read it and believe it be guilty of being a Satanic conterfeit?
Everyone Relax,
Matt
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If none are inspired, just what God do you have?? Understand, you are addressing
Him when you make comments about His word. The body of Christ just isn't taking God's
word serious at all. They think anyone for any reason can assemble words and books,
write "Bible" on the cover and presto, you got another Bible. Sorry, but God isn't anyone's
lackey to run after people to "inspire" their creation. Being inspired means, "God breathed in"
and God ONLY breaths into His creation. Jesus said to follow Him and He wants people
to be serious about it. And when the Body of Christ reads God's word, it better be something
God created. To make comments that there isn't an inspired word of God, in Bible form today,
you'll have to answer for that, when you stand before Him. God is the creator and He magnifies His
word above His own name, and when anyone speaks about His word, He hears it.
A word of warning to the body of Christ. The KJV Bible is God authorized and God inspired.
If you don't agree with that or don't like it, that is your opinion. But the moment anyone starts
attacking His word, it is directed right at God. That whole attitude throws question to the
individual's salvation. That is, why would anyone who claims to be saved, be bad mouthing God's
character and word? Its a contradiction in attitude. If the person is saved, he/she will be questioned
and that person will have to give an account for what they said and done.
Now, I read from the KJV only because I know its from God. These other modern translations,
I don't know. I go with the one I do know about. If, by chance, a more modern, God authorized
and God inspired translation, there will be ONLY one given. They all can't be. It will be a game
of chance trying to figure out which one, even if there is one. I know it is very easy for God
to bring about a Bible and inspire its translation. He gave the KJV Bible and I haven't seen
a legit reason for Him to give us another one.
Now, whatever Bible version you choose, is your choice. Choose for the correct reason.
Him when you make comments about His word. The body of Christ just isn't taking God's
word serious at all. They think anyone for any reason can assemble words and books,
write "Bible" on the cover and presto, you got another Bible. Sorry, but God isn't anyone's
lackey to run after people to "inspire" their creation. Being inspired means, "God breathed in"
and God ONLY breaths into His creation. Jesus said to follow Him and He wants people
to be serious about it. And when the Body of Christ reads God's word, it better be something
God created. To make comments that there isn't an inspired word of God, in Bible form today,
you'll have to answer for that, when you stand before Him. God is the creator and He magnifies His
word above His own name, and when anyone speaks about His word, He hears it.
A word of warning to the body of Christ. The KJV Bible is God authorized and God inspired.
If you don't agree with that or don't like it, that is your opinion. But the moment anyone starts
attacking His word, it is directed right at God. That whole attitude throws question to the
individual's salvation. That is, why would anyone who claims to be saved, be bad mouthing God's
character and word? Its a contradiction in attitude. If the person is saved, he/she will be questioned
and that person will have to give an account for what they said and done.
Now, I read from the KJV only because I know its from God. These other modern translations,
I don't know. I go with the one I do know about. If, by chance, a more modern, God authorized
and God inspired translation, there will be ONLY one given. They all can't be. It will be a game
of chance trying to figure out which one, even if there is one. I know it is very easy for God
to bring about a Bible and inspire its translation. He gave the KJV Bible and I haven't seen
a legit reason for Him to give us another one.
Now, whatever Bible version you choose, is your choice. Choose for the correct reason.
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As much as I love, and use the NASB, I think that overall, it is a pretty darn accurate translation (not to be confused with text critical issues). However, that does not mean that every passage is accurately translated. I can point to versions that I don't particularly care for that actually do a better job rendering some of the passages. In addition, that also does not mean that the textual decisions behind the NASB are correct. For example, 1 Corinthians 10.9, the NASB utilizes the variant "Lord" over "Christ." Granted, there are reasons to accept this reading, there are far more reasons to oppose it, and opt for "Christ." NASB-Onlyism is equally as dangerous as KJV-Onlyism.
Overall, by favorite translations on the market are, ESV, NET, NASB, Lexham.
Overall, by favorite translations on the market are, ESV, NET, NASB, Lexham.
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Typically KJV-Onlyists make claims about the heretical nature of Alexandrian theology, while at the same time making glowing statements about the theology of Antioch.
But, I suppose for the sake of argument that we could argue just the opposite. After all, Alexandria was the home of Orthodoxies most ardent defenders: Alexander and his protege, Athanasius; Cyril; Peter I; Achillas. Whereas, Antioch was home of some of the most notorious heretics: Paul of Samosata; Apollinarius; Theodotus of Byzantium; Nestorius. And the early Church historian, Eusebius of Caesarea actually attributes Biblical corruption to some of these men, and to some of their followers (Church History, Book 5, Chapter 28).
But, I suppose for the sake of argument that we could argue just the opposite. After all, Alexandria was the home of Orthodoxies most ardent defenders: Alexander and his protege, Athanasius; Cyril; Peter I; Achillas. Whereas, Antioch was home of some of the most notorious heretics: Paul of Samosata; Apollinarius; Theodotus of Byzantium; Nestorius. And the early Church historian, Eusebius of Caesarea actually attributes Biblical corruption to some of these men, and to some of their followers (Church History, Book 5, Chapter 28).
This is brilliant!
WalMart ESV: under $2 new and none of it for Rupert Murdoch (not red-letter though) -> ESV, Crossway Bibles: Walmart.com
Matt 6:19 “Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, 20 but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. (ESV)
WalMart ESV: under $2 new and none of it for Rupert Murdoch (not red-letter though) -> ESV, Crossway Bibles: Walmart.com
Matt 6:19 “Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, 20 but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. (ESV)
Matt 7:15-20 ¶ “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will recognize them by their fruits. (ESV)
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Read Numbers chapter 11. It paints a vivid picture of what the body of Christ is doing now.
Here are some highlites:
1. The people are being fed with manna, which God gave. They all ate the same thing, manna.
2. They all traveled in the same direction
3. They began to complain and wanted meat to eat. They got tired of manna.
4. This made God angry.
5. Num 11:19-20 Ye shall not eat one day, nor two days, nor five days, neither ten days, nor
twenty days; (20) But even a whole month, until it come out at your nostrils, and it be loathsome
unto you: because that ye have despised the LORD which is among you, and have wept before
him, saying, Why came we forth out of Egypt?
Ever puked and it came out your nose? That is what God said. He said they despised Him and they
would eat this stuff till they puked it out of their nose and became sick of it.
6. Num 11:33 And while the flesh was yet between their teeth, ere it was chewed, the wrath of
the LORD was kindled against the people, and the LORD smote the people with a very great plague.
Manna is a picture of God's word. The flesh (or the meat) was what the people wanted.
Today, you got manna and a whole lot of flesh. The body of Christ wanted spiritual
food that pleased them and so you got all these translations. Because the body
rejected the manna, you are covered up with the flesh and they will eat it till they
puke it out their nose now. If you got issues with the KJV, then you got issues with the manna
and with God. And every reason for reading another modern translation is "self-centered"
and "self-pleasing" reasons. The body is desiring the flesh and it will have to come
out the nose now.
Here are some highlites:
1. The people are being fed with manna, which God gave. They all ate the same thing, manna.
2. They all traveled in the same direction
3. They began to complain and wanted meat to eat. They got tired of manna.
4. This made God angry.
5. Num 11:19-20 Ye shall not eat one day, nor two days, nor five days, neither ten days, nor
twenty days; (20) But even a whole month, until it come out at your nostrils, and it be loathsome
unto you: because that ye have despised the LORD which is among you, and have wept before
him, saying, Why came we forth out of Egypt?
Ever puked and it came out your nose? That is what God said. He said they despised Him and they
would eat this stuff till they puked it out of their nose and became sick of it.
6. Num 11:33 And while the flesh was yet between their teeth, ere it was chewed, the wrath of
the LORD was kindled against the people, and the LORD smote the people with a very great plague.
Manna is a picture of God's word. The flesh (or the meat) was what the people wanted.
Today, you got manna and a whole lot of flesh. The body of Christ wanted spiritual
food that pleased them and so you got all these translations. Because the body
rejected the manna, you are covered up with the flesh and they will eat it till they
puke it out their nose now. If you got issues with the KJV, then you got issues with the manna
and with God. And every reason for reading another modern translation is "self-centered"
and "self-pleasing" reasons. The body is desiring the flesh and it will have to come
out the nose now.