To Which are We Called?

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p_rehbein

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A life of solitude, or a life of servitude?

Matthew 7:13 ) Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 .) Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. 15 .) Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 .) Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 .) Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 .) A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 .) Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 .) Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 .) Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 .) Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 .) And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 24 .) Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25 .) And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26 .) And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27 .) And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
28 .) And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine: 29 .) For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.

1st Corinthians 3:8) Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour. 9 .) For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.
10 .) According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. 11 .) For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 .) Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 13 .) Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 14 .) If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.

Matthew 28:19) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 .) Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

SOLITUED?

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SERVITUDE?
 
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We are called to believe in Christ, the son of GOD, and not hurt our neighbor. Beyond that everyone will reap as (s)he sows.
 
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HRFTD So when are you going to start believeing in Chrsit Jesus? Do you believe this way?
Jihn 12:44... I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.

Remember there is NO SIN IN THE LIGHT.... 1 John 1..As long as we sin we abide in darkness....
 

p_rehbein

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Thank you both for your response, however, they do not answer the question I asked. Are we called to live a life of solitude, or a life of servitude? Which are we called to live?
 

p_rehbein

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1 .) I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
2 .) Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
3 .) Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
4 .) Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
5 .) I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
6 .) If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
7 .) If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
8 .) Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.
9 .) As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.
10 .) If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
11 .) These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.
12 .) This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
13 .) Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
14 .) Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.
15 .) Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.
16 .) Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
17 .) These things I command you, that ye love one another.
 
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Hi my friends! I have to shine the light on the bible but before we do that let's take a look at what the word Solitude means.

Solitude is the state or situation of being alone. Now let's see what the bible says about this children being alone.

Be strong and of good courage, do not fear nor be afraid of them; for theLord your God, He is the One who goes with you. He will not leave you nor forsake you.” Deuteronomy 31:6

So We're definitely not called to a life of solitude but of cheerful and humble service.

I hope this is the answer you were looking for.
 
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I see elements of solitude in Jesus' life of servitude. The two do not seem mutually exclusive. Count the number of times the gospels mentioned that Jesus went to the top of a mountain. Life in the mideast is in the valley - that is where the water flows, that is where the people live. Villages are in the wadi, in the valleys. Dry rocks are on the mountaintops. Jesus retreats from the multitudes. He gets alone. Multitudes follow him because….he left. That does not imply that his life was not dedicated to servitude.

I am an introvert in that I get energy by being alone and spend energy when I am with people. I am a teacher; when I am with people, spending energy, I would like to be in the middle of things, spending energy with a BANG! But solitude is an important part of life. That does not mean that I am not being a servant when I recharge alone, out running a long workout or just walking alone.

Dedicating oneself to uninterrupted solitude leads to a lack of servitude. Dedicating oneself to uninterrupted servitude leads to premature burn-out. Balancing solitude with servitude is what Jesus does.
 
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rainin

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I think that maybe we are called to a bit of both. The times of solitude in my life have prepared me for the times I was called to serve. If we look at our times of solitude as a time for prayer and reflection we are better able to serve in a manner that will be more productive and inclined towards the will of God rather than our own. It's like a time God takes to let us know how he wants us to serve him. He takes us out into the wilderness to prepare us to do his will so to say. Maybe we can't really hear His voice unless He has our undivided attention. I think of Moses out there in the desert all those years and look at all God had planned for him! I think that we need both to be able to accomplish what the Lord has sent us to do.
 

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We live to serve. We are His workmanship created unto good works. Eph 2:10 We are to separate from the world but not forsake the assembling of ourselves together as is the manner of some. When we are alone with God we are not alone.

For the cause of Christ
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Thank you both for your response, however, they do not answer the question I asked. Are we called to live a life of solitude, or a life of servitude? Which are we called to live?
The answer should have been obvious in my response: it doesn't matter.
 
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A life of solitude.... Defenately... The night before Jesus went to Jerusalem to be crucified they came to a city where no-one wanted to take them in, and the disciples suggested they make fire come down and destroy the whole city... Jesus said this, and I realized just how alone He was...

Jesus said they did not know of what spirit they were.... Not of His for sure... then he added... the jackels have holes and the birhda have nests, but the Son of Man has NO PLACE to rest His head... WOW!!!! He is the God of all this, and He is so unwelcome in any home that He has no place where He is welcome to lay His head.... WOW!

I think it will be a life in solitude, but still sent to SERVE... pretty much like me P_rehbein is it not. Who here agrees with Cobus, yet ALL he does is SERVING THE TRUTH OF GOD.... Exposing falseness and weak doctrines. Reproofing wrong faiths and statements with the Truth of God, and does he (Cobus) dare call a bluff or rebuke? He might get banned for it,, but then God will approve.

God said..... Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
I do this all the time, but who joined the ONE MAN BAND as I was called recently? Not ONE! But do I shy from serving the Truth? NOPE.... Like Paul say, I bring you the Truth why do you consider me the enemy?


My friend I cannot stop being in silitude and still in servitude.... To reproof, rebule and exorth with the Word of God is what I do, even if I am a one man band.... I know I do this with longsuffering, and the ONLY TRUE DOCTRINE... God's Truth/Word.

Like Paul and Jesus, God will not have me stopped. So get ready for a long hall, I will only stop when God tells me too, and since we are on such great talking relationship, i will not miss a single post from My Lord Chrsit Jesus.... If tells me to rebuke even my dearest friends here on CC it will be done.

If God tells me to witness something no matter how embarrising, I will do so. I do what God wants me to do,,,, FAITHFULLY, for it is HIS gift of Faith in me that makes me do these things. My you have a blessed day...
 

p_rehbein

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I see elements of solitude in Jesus' life of servitude. The two do not seem mutually exclusive. Count the number of times the gospels mentioned that Jesus went to the top of a mountain. Life in the mideast is in the valley - that is where the water flows, that is where the people live. Villages are in the wadi, in the valleys. Dry rocks are on the mountaintops. Jesus retreats from the multitudes. He gets alone. Multitudes follow him because….he left. That does not imply that his life was not dedicated to servitude.

I am an introvert in that I get energy by being alone and spend energy when I am with people. I am a teacher; when I am with people, spending energy, I would like to be in the middle of things, spending energy with a BANG! But solitude is an important part of life. That does not mean that I am not being a servant when I recharge alone, out running a long workout or just walking alone.

Dedicating oneself to uninterrupted solitude leads to a lack of servitude. Dedicating oneself to uninterrupted servitude leads to premature burn-out. Balancing solitude with servitude is what Jesus does.
Some good thoughts, however you miss the point of the question......

Are we called to "A LIFE OF SOLITUDE?" A life void of all interaction with others?

Are we called to "A LIFE OF SERVITUDE?" A life dedicated to serving God, and to serving man?

To which are we called?

Thanks
 

p_rehbein

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I think that maybe we are called to a bit of both. The times of solitude in my life have prepared me for the times I was called to serve. If we look at our times of solitude as a time for prayer and reflection we are better able to serve in a manner that will be more productive and inclined towards the will of God rather than our own. It's like a time God takes to let us know how he wants us to serve him. He takes us out into the wilderness to prepare us to do his will so to say. Maybe we can't really hear His voice unless He has our undivided attention. I think of Moses out there in the desert all those years and look at all God had planned for him! I think that we need both to be able to accomplish what the Lord has sent us to do.
Sister, see my comment to tdrew777, :), and thanks for your thoughts....... God bless
 
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call for both


3 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
[SUP]2 [/SUP]A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
[SUP]3 [/SUP]A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
[SUP]4 [/SUP]A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
[SUP]5 [/SUP]A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;

[SUP]6 [/SUP]A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;

[SUP]7 [/SUP]A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;

[SUP]8 [/SUP]A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.


 
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At times Jesus was alone at times He was serving


LUKE 5

[SUP]5 [/SUP]But so much the more went there a fame abroad of him: and great multitudes came together to hear, and to be healed by him of their infirmities. [SUP]16 [/SUP]And he withdrew himself into the wilderness, and prayed.
 
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A life of solitude.... Defenately... The night before Jesus went to Jerusalem to be crucified they came to a city where no-one wanted to take them in, and the disciples suggested they make fire come down and destroy the whole city... Jesus said this, and I realized just how alone He was...

Jesus said they did not know of what spirit they were.... Not of His for sure... then he added... the jackels have holes and the birhda have nests, but the Son of Man has NO PLACE to rest His head... WOW!!!! He is the God of all this, and He is so unwelcome in any home that He has no place where He is welcome to lay His head.... WOW!

I think it will be a life in solitude, but still sent to SERVE... pretty much like me P_rehbein is it not. Who here agrees with Cobus, yet ALL he does is SERVING THE TRUTH OF GOD.... Exposing falseness and weak doctrines. Reproofing wrong faiths and statements with the Truth of God, and does he (Cobus) dare call a bluff or rebuke? He might get banned for it,, but then God will approve.

God said..... Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
I do this all the time, but who joined the ONE MAN BAND as I was called recently? Not ONE! But do I shy from serving the Truth? NOPE.... Like Paul say, I bring you the Truth why do you consider me the enemy?


My friend I cannot stop being in silitude and still in servitude.... To reproof, rebule and exorth with the Word of God is what I do, even if I am a one man band.... I know I do this with longsuffering, and the ONLY TRUE DOCTRINE... God's Truth/Word.

Like Paul and Jesus, God will not have me stopped. So get ready for a long hall, I will only stop when God tells me too, and since we are on such great talking relationship, i will not miss a single post from My Lord Chrsit Jesus.... If tells me to rebuke even my dearest friends here on CC it will be done.

If God tells me to witness something no matter how embarrising, I will do so. I do what God wants me to do,,,, FAITHFULLY, for it is HIS gift of Faith in me that makes me do these things. My you have a blessed day...
i like the preach the in and out of season comment from the bible but as of you having the truth nayyyyyyyyyyyy
 
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Ariel82

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Some good thoughts, however you miss the point of the question......

Are we called to "A LIFE OF SOLITUDE?" A life void of all interaction with others?

Are we called to "A LIFE OF SERVITUDE?" A life dedicated to serving God, and to serving man?

To which are we called?

Thanks
you can't live a life void of all interaction with others. When you are born, you interact with your mother. as a child you interact with those who care for you and helps you grow.

However, I see your point: we are not called to be like the Buddhist and Hindu monks that meditate upon mountain caves away from the world trying to achieve "enlightenment". We are called to serve others.

that being said moments of solitude is not wrong. we should spend time with God and reading His words and in prayer without the distraction of the world.
 
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rainin

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Sister, see my comment to tdrew777, :), and thanks for your thoughts....... God bless

In light of what you said to trdrew777, I would have to say that I am called to a life of servitude. If in order to do that I need moments or times of solitude, that does not qualify as a call to solitude....only a means to further my service. I do have to say though, your question has had me contemplating the matter most of the day!
 
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BeanieD

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Thank you both for your response, however, they do not answer the question I asked. Are we called to live a life of solitude, or a life of servitude? Which are we called to live?
We are to live a life of servitude, as the grat comission asks of us. Go ye therefore, into all the world . If we are living a life of solitude how can we fulfill the great comission?

Matthew 28:18-20
 

Angela53510

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I would prefer to call it a "life of service" to God and my fellow human beings.

While we do need time to be with God alone, we also need to be doing the will of the Father.

“‘I know your works, your love and faith and service and patient endurance, and that your latter works exceed the first." Rev. 2:19