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    Quote Originally Posted by RedTent View Post
    You have it right on, except you are human. Shame. After you are born again, after you put on Christ, after you determine to follow Christ, there is still weakness in you. You still are given the right, minute by minute, to choose what you do, what you think about, how you live. With all you say, you are almost there, you are blessed, you are helped, but you are not perfect. You must choose your walk.
    indeed you are right on also, but as the scripture says Luke 9:23

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    23 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaPie View Post
    Well, let's see.

    1. Don't worship other gods.
    2. Don't make idols.
    3. Don't take the name of God in vane.
    4. Remember Shabbat to keep it holy.
    5. Honor your father & mother.
    6. Don't murder.
    7. Don't commit adultery.
    8. Don't steal.
    9. Don't lie.
    10. Don't covet.
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    So, just wondering here, but IF we keep/obey Jesus when He said:

    Matthew 22:36) Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
    37 .) Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
    38 .) This is the first and great commandment.
    39 .) And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
    40 .) On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.


    WHICH OF THOSE YOU LISTED WOULD WE BE BREAKING?
    "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlesbro View Post
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    1. You shall have no other gods before me.
    2. You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.
    3. You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God,for the Lord will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.
    4. Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.
    5. Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you.
    6. You shall not murder.
    7. You shall not commit adultery.
    8. You shall not steal.
    9. You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.
    10. You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.

    The 4th one can be altered slightly, I think.
    God Almighty give you special dispensation to do this, did He?

    Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
    Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
    Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

    Luk 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.

    Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

    Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlesbro View Post
    God through man? lol
    ahh I don't get you, what I meant was that you don't have to fully follow the 4th commandment, as people need to work, and might have to spread out worship and time to speak to God throughout the week.
    Where is your faith? You don't think god can provide? People were sawn in half for obeying God.

    Rev 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
    Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

    verse 8 "Oh but I might lose my job." And God says...

    Exo 34:21 Six days thou shalt work, but on the seventh day thou shalt rest: in earing time and in harvest thou shalt rest.

    "The crops need harvested and it looks like rain tomorrow." And God says...

    Exo 34:21 Six days thou shalt work, but on the seventh day thou shalt rest: in earing time and in harvest thou shalt rest.

    Again I ask, where is your faith?

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    Quote Originally Posted by p_rehbein View Post
    Keep the Two Greatest that Jesus taught............and the rest will be kept.

    Thou shalt love thy God.........

    Thou shalt love thy Neighbor......

    (rest will follow......they ALL hang on these to according to Jesus)

    Notice that ALL the Commandments Hang on these two. They are not destroyed by these two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4enlightment View Post
    You can keep one or the other, it is up to you. But if you were to forget to wash your hands before you eat, you has violated one, and if you violated one, you have violated them all. So you'll be consider endanger of hell's fire. So it is best to follow Christ, because people will make many of mistakes, and Jesus can look over your mistakes, because He knows that we are imperfect.
    Uh, can you show me the Commandment about washing your hands?

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    Lest we forget the words of Jesus..........

    Mark 2:23) And it came to pass, that he went through the corn fields on the sabbath day; and his disciples began, as they went, to pluck the ears of corn.
    24 .) And the Pharisees said unto him, Behold, why do they on the sabbath day that which is not lawful?
    25 .) And he said unto them, Have ye never read what David did, when he had need, and was an hungred, he, and they that were with him?
    26 .) How he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the high priest, and did eat the shewbread, which is not lawful to eat but for the priests, and gave also to them which were with him?
    27 .) And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
    28 .) Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeRoseFromTheDead View Post
    Do you believe that unbelief and unloving behavior are not sin?
    Of course they are. That is not the only definition of sin though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john832 View Post
    Uh, can you show me the Commandment about washing your hands?
    It was customary for them to keep themselves physically clean, or you will be considered to be defile. I believe that everyone should become like Jews in order to understand the scriptures. I use to observe the Laws whole heartedly. And in the scriptures it says to not eat or touch anything that isn't kosher, and even anyone or thing that touches anything that came into contact with unclean items. And remember the Jews had live among the Pagans and the ones that didn't kept the laws. Believe me it is hard to keep yourselves from being defile while living among the defile. You have to keep on washing yourself all the time and keeping away from defile, and wait 24 hours until you become clean. Until the Holy Spirit came into the picture, then I understand that the laws were for to preserved the flesh, but not for the spirit.

    Exodus 30:17 Then the Lord said to Moses, 18 “Make a bronze basin, with its bronze stand, for washing. Place it between the tent of meeting and the altar, and put water in it. 19 Aaron and his sons are to wash their hands and feet with water from it. 20 Whenever they enter the tent of meeting, they shall wash with water so that they will not die. Also, when they approach the altar to minister by presenting a food offering to the Lord, 21 they shall wash their hands and feet so that they will not die. This is to be a lasting ordinance for Aaron and his descendants for the generations to come.”

    Exodus 19:10
    And the Lord said to Moses, “Go to the people and consecrate them today and tomorrow. Have them wash their clothes

    Luke 10:11
    ‘Even the dust of your town we wipe from our feet as a warning to you. Yet be sure of this: The kingdom of God has come near.’

    John 13:8 “No,” said Peter, “you shall never wash my feet.”
    Jesus answered, “Unless I wash you, you have no part with me.”
    9 “Then, Lord,” Simon Peter replied, “not just my feet but my hands and my head as well!”
    10 Jesus answered, “Those who have had a bath need only to wash their feet; their whole body is clean. And you are clean, though not every one of you.”

    1 Peter 3:21

    and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ,




    Mikveh (sometimes spelled mikvah, mikve, or mikva) (Hebrew: מִקְוֶה / מקווה, Modern Mikve Tiberian Miqwā; plural:mikva'ot or mikves (Yiddish)[1][2]Hebrew: מִקְוֶוֹת / מִקְוָאות) is a bath used for the purpose of ritual immersion in Judaism. The word "mikveh", as used in the Hebrew Bible, literally means a "collection" – generally, a collection of water.[3]
    Several biblical regulations specify that full immersion in water is required to regain ritual purity after ritually impure incidents have occurred. A person was required to be ritually pure in order to enter the Temple. In addition, a convert to Judaism is required to immerse in a mikveh as part of the his/her conversion, and a woman is required to immerse in a mikveh after her menstrual period or childbirth before she and her husband can resume marital relations. In this context, "purity" and "impurity" are imperfect translations of the Hebrew "tahara" and "tumah", respectively, in that the negative connotation of the word impurity is not intended; rather being "impure" is indicative of being in a state in which certain things are prohibited (as relevant) until one has become "pure" again by immersion in a mikveh.
    Mikveh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Kashrut is the body of Jewish law dealing with what foods we can and cannot eat and how those foods must be prepared and eaten. "Kashrut" comes from the Hebrewroot Kaf-Shin-Reish, meaning fit, proper or correct. It is the same root as the more commonly known word "kosher," which describes food that meets these standards. The word "kosher" can also be used, and often is used, to describe ritual objects that are made in accordance with Jewish law and are fit for ritual use.
    Judaism 101: Kashrut: Jewish Dietary Laws

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    Quote Originally Posted by john832 View Post
    Originally Posted by HeRoseFromTheDead
    Do you believe that unbelief and unloving behavior are not sin?
    Of course they are. That is not the only definition of sin though.
    Can you show me a law of Moses that is not fulfilled by faith in GOD and love of mankind?
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    Quote Originally Posted by p_rehbein View Post
    Lest we forget the words of Jesus..........

    Mark 2:23) And it came to pass, that he went through the corn fields on the sabbath day; and his disciples began, as they went, to pluck the ears of corn.
    24 .) And the Pharisees said unto him, Behold, why do they on the sabbath day that which is not lawful?
    25 .) And he said unto them, Have ye never read what David did, when he had need, and was an hungred, he, and they that were with him?
    26 .) How he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the high priest, and did eat the shewbread, which is not lawful to eat but for the priests, and gave also to them which were with him?
    27 .) And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
    28 .) Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
    Do you think Christ broke the Law?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4enlightment View Post
    It was customary for them to keep themselves physically clean, or you will be considered to be defile. I believe that everyone should become like Jews in order to understand the scriptures. I use to observe the Laws whole heartedly. And in the scriptures it says to not eat or touch anything that isn't kosher, and even anyone or thing that touches anything that came into contact with unclean items. And remember the Jews had live among the Pagans and the ones that didn't kept the laws. Believe me it is hard to keep yourselves from being defile while living among the defile. You have to keep on washing yourself all the time and keeping away from defile, and wait 24 hours until you become clean. Until the Holy Spirit came into the picture, then I understand that the laws were for to preserved the flesh, but not for the spirit.

    Exodus 30:17 Then the Lord said to Moses, 18 “Make a bronze basin, with its bronze stand, for washing. Place it between the tent of meeting and the altar, and put water in it. 19 Aaron and his sons are to wash their hands and feet with water from it. 20 Whenever they enter the tent of meeting, they shall wash with water so that they will not die. Also, when they approach the altar to minister by presenting a food offering to the Lord, 21 they shall wash their hands and feet so that they will not die. This is to be a lasting ordinance for Aaron and his descendants for the generations to come.”

    Exodus 19:10
    And the Lord said to Moses, “Go to the people and consecrate them today and tomorrow. Have them wash their clothes

    Luke 10:11
    ‘Even the dust of your town we wipe from our feet as a warning to you. Yet be sure of this: The kingdom of God has come near.’

    John 13:8 “No,” said Peter, “you shall never wash my feet.”
    Jesus answered, “Unless I wash you, you have no part with me.”
    9 “Then, Lord,” Simon Peter replied, “not just my feet but my hands and my head as well!”
    10 Jesus answered, “Those who have had a bath need only to wash their feet; their whole body is clean. And you are clean, though not every one of you.”

    1 Peter 3:21

    and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ,




    Mikveh (sometimes spelled mikvah, mikve, or mikva) (Hebrew: מִקְוֶה / מקווה, Modern Mikve Tiberian Miqwā; plural:mikva'ot or mikves (Yiddish)[1][2]Hebrew: מִקְוֶוֹת / מִקְוָאות) is a bath used for the purpose of ritual immersion in Judaism. The word "mikveh", as used in the Hebrew Bible, literally means a "collection" – generally, a collection of water.[3]
    Several biblical regulations specify that full immersion in water is required to regain ritual purity after ritually impure incidents have occurred. A person was required to be ritually pure in order to enter the Temple. In addition, a convert to Judaism is required to immerse in a mikveh as part of the his/her conversion, and a woman is required to immerse in a mikveh after her menstrual period or childbirth before she and her husband can resume marital relations. In this context, "purity" and "impurity" are imperfect translations of the Hebrew "tahara" and "tumah", respectively, in that the negative connotation of the word impurity is not intended; rather being "impure" is indicative of being in a state in which certain things are prohibited (as relevant) until one has become "pure" again by immersion in a mikveh.
    Mikveh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Kashrut is the body of Jewish law dealing with what foods we can and cannot eat and how those foods must be prepared and eaten. "Kashrut" comes from the Hebrewroot Kaf-Shin-Reish, meaning fit, proper or correct. It is the same root as the more commonly known word "kosher," which describes food that meets these standards. The word "kosher" can also be used, and often is used, to describe ritual objects that are made in accordance with Jewish law and are fit for ritual use.
    Judaism 101: Kashrut: Jewish Dietary Laws
    Uh, can you show me the Commandment about washing your hands?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeRoseFromTheDead View Post
    Can you show me a law of Moses that is not fulfilled by faith in GOD and love of mankind?
    Never said it wasn't. It is...

    Can you show me how faith and love is fulfilled while breaking the letter of the Law?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotime View Post
    Which ones are to be kept and why?
    Which ones don't matter and why?
    I believe there are actually more then 10 commandments in scripture. (He didn't just stop at the ones on the stones) A command is when someone of authority tells you to do something with authority. So for instance this scripture: Romans 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another:... You can see he didn't say, " If you wouldn't mind or could you please or even if you feel like it. So he has commanded us to owe no man anything but love.
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    Quote Originally Posted by john832 View Post
    Never said it wasn't. It is...

    Can you show me how faith and love is fulfilled while breaking the letter of the Law?
    Sure. Help your neighbor round up his cattle and mend a hole in his fence that his cattle escaped through on the sabbath.

    Faith and love are above the law. Christ is lord of the sabbath. Only carnal people obsess over the letter. GOD is interested in obedience to the spirit.
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    Deuteronomy 5

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    These words the Lord spake unto all your assembly in the mount out of the midst of the fire, of the cloud, and of the thick darkness, with a great voice: and he added no more. And he wrote them in two tables of stone, and delivered them unto me.

    The first four commandments address man’s relationship with God; God is to be the sole object of worship, and He will not tolerate idolatry. His name is to be revered, and the Sabbath is to be a sign that God is Creator, and that man is His special creation. The other six commandments deal with man’s relationship with man.

    First four is to God and Man
    Last six is to Man to Man

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeRoseFromTheDead View Post
    Can you show me a law of Moses that is not fulfilled by faith in GOD and love of mankind?
    Matthew 7:6

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    6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.


    doesn't make sense to continue this subject anymore, people see what you saying know that it makes sense but yet they don't understand it or even want to understand it, so best thing to do is let it be

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeRoseFromTheDead View Post
    Can you show me a law of Moses that is not fulfilled by faith in GOD and love of mankind?
    Can you show me faith in God and love of mankind fulfilled while breaking the Commandments?

    Love God:

    Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

    Joh 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

    Joh 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

    1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

    And here these are individually...

    Mat 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

    1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
    1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

    1Ti 6:1 Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed.
    Jas 2:7 Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called?

    Heb 4:4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
    Heb 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. - KJV

    Heb 4:4 It has been spoken for somewhere concerning the seventh thus: And rested the God in the day the seventh from all of the works of himself;
    Heb 4:9 Therefore remains a keeping of a sabbath for the people of the God. - Diaglott.

    Love your neighbor:

    Rom 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
    Rom 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

    Jas 2:8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
    Jas 2:9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
    Jas 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
    Jas 2:11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
    Jas 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

    And here they are individually...

    Eph 6:1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.
    Eph 6:2 Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise
    Eph 6:3 That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.

    1Jn 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

    Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
    Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
    Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

    Eph 4:28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.

    Eph 4:25 Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.

    Heb 13:5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.

    Now which of these do you think we ought to disobey?
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    Matthew 19
    16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
    17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
    18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
    19Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
    20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
    21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
    22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.


    Note the first 4 commandments are not mentioned hmmm does that mean we can commit idoltry , take God name in vain etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh321 View Post
    Matthew 7:6

    King James Version (KJV)

    6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.


    doesn't make sense to continue this subject anymore, people see what you saying know that it makes sense but yet they don't understand it or even want to understand it, so best thing to do is let it be

    hmmm you ran away from the rapture topic hmmm too much of sound doctrine that you could not handle hmmm

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