81% of Christians think Christianity is following rules in the bible
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I am not sure why you are having a problem with those verses or questioning me on them, I didnt write them.
It was posted this way, and I simply followed up behind
I simply added the verse right before it which speaks to their obedience in verse 12, verse 13 shows who is working that in them, that being God.
As he is speaking to such in Christ, by whom even Paul received grace and apostleship and for obedience to the faith among all nations. Likewise is he speaking to the same who are the called of Jesus Christ by whom also he says, we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand. Paul speaks of the grace of God in him working and his striving according to the power that works within him.
Grace preceeds, as grace is given for the obedience of the faith. Paul is speaking of such in Jesus Christ which have always obeyed and not just doing an eyeservice (in his presence) but now moreso in his absense.
The verses shows it is God working within them to both will and do of his good pleasure (verse 12 highlights their obedience) Romans 15:18 speaks also of this obedience.
Verse 12 speaks of their obedience and the following shows where that willing to do his good pleasure come from, namely God working within them.
I dont understand your trouble with those verses, unless it is with the obedience part? But clearly it shows God doing the work in such so I am without understanding to what you are wrestling with in your mind concerning this.
Just as the context is the grace of God over here in Romans also, under which grace sin shall have no power over you
Romans 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you
You can go back and read the whole thing as I posted on this one before as well.
You will have to provide the verses you speaking of here so I know of which you are having a question concerning.
Your line of questioning is familar seeing I only posted two verses of scripture. Simply adding in the one showing obedience out of the same. But I honestly cannot understand how you get all those questions from those two verses showing God working in them.
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I guess Paul did not get the memo.
Romans 16:25
[ Benediction ] Now to Him who is able to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery kept secret since the world began
1 Corinthians 2:7
But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory,
Ephesians 1:9
having made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His good pleasure which He purposed in Himself,
Ephesians 3:3
how that by revelation He made known to me the mystery (as I have briefly written already,
Ephesians 3:9
and to make all see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the ages has been hidden in God who created all things through Jesus Christ;
Ephesians 6:19
and for me, that utterance may be given to me, that I may open my mouth boldly to make known the mystery of the gospel,
Colossians 1:26-27
the mystery which has been hidden from ages and from generations, but now has been revealed to His saints. 27. To them God willed to make known what are the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles: which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.
As far as salvation JESUS said
John 6:27-29
King James Version(KJV)
27.)Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.
28.)Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
29.)Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
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I only see believe In those scriptures and we know that any other scripture used must harmonize with the above scriptures or there Is error In the Interpretation.
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Philippians 2:13
King James Version(KJV)
13.)For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
John 6:27-29
King James Version(KJV)
27.)Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.
28.)Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
29.)Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
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I only see believe In those scriptures and we know that any other scripture used must harmonize with the above scriptures or there Is error In the Interpretation.
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Philippians 2:13
King James Version(KJV)
13.)For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
The mystery is all about Christ and Him being in us true believers.
Jesus talked about it.
Mark 4:11 (NASB)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] And He was saying to them, "To you has been given the mystery of the kingdom of God, but those who are outside get everything in parables,
Paul talked about it a lot! Here are just a few places.
Romans 16:25 (KJV)
[SUP]25 [/SUP] Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
1 Corinthians 2:7 (NASB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] but we speak God's wisdom in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God predestined before the ages to our glory;
Ephesians 3:3-4 (NASB)
[SUP]3 [/SUP] that by revelation there was made known to me the mystery, as I wrote before in brief.
[SUP]4 [/SUP] By referring to this, when you read you can understand my insight into the mystery of Christ,
Ephesians 6:19 (NASB)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] and pray on my behalf, that utterance may be given to me in the opening of my mouth, to make known with boldness the mystery of the gospel,
Colossians 1:27 (NASB)
[SUP]27 [/SUP] to whom God willed to make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.
Colossians 2:2 (NASB)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] that their hearts may be encouraged, having been knit together in love, and attaining to all the wealth that comes from the full assurance of understanding, resulting in a true knowledge of God's mystery, that is, Christ Himself,
Jesus talked about it.
Mark 4:11 (NASB)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] And He was saying to them, "To you has been given the mystery of the kingdom of God, but those who are outside get everything in parables,
Paul talked about it a lot! Here are just a few places.
Romans 16:25 (KJV)
[SUP]25 [/SUP] Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
1 Corinthians 2:7 (NASB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] but we speak God's wisdom in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God predestined before the ages to our glory;
Ephesians 3:3-4 (NASB)
[SUP]3 [/SUP] that by revelation there was made known to me the mystery, as I wrote before in brief.
[SUP]4 [/SUP] By referring to this, when you read you can understand my insight into the mystery of Christ,
Ephesians 6:19 (NASB)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] and pray on my behalf, that utterance may be given to me in the opening of my mouth, to make known with boldness the mystery of the gospel,
Colossians 1:27 (NASB)
[SUP]27 [/SUP] to whom God willed to make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.
Colossians 2:2 (NASB)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] that their hearts may be encouraged, having been knit together in love, and attaining to all the wealth that comes from the full assurance of understanding, resulting in a true knowledge of God's mystery, that is, Christ Himself,
It is still a mystery to many believers in Christ.
There are more anti-Christ beliefs going around in the name of the Lord and by that it is so obvious some people have no real clue of the mystery of Christ being in them.
This is why there is a works-based salvation religion being taught instead of proclaiming Him. We are to proclaim HIM ( Col 1:28 )
There is so little understanding of the new creation in Christ but the Lord is changing all of that. Thank you Jesus!
Colossians 1:27-28 (NASB)
[SUP]27 [/SUP] to whom God willed to make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.
[SUP]28 [/SUP] We proclaim Him, admonishing every man and teaching every man with all wisdom, so that we may present every man complete in Christ.
There are more anti-Christ beliefs going around in the name of the Lord and by that it is so obvious some people have no real clue of the mystery of Christ being in them.
This is why there is a works-based salvation religion being taught instead of proclaiming Him. We are to proclaim HIM ( Col 1:28 )
There is so little understanding of the new creation in Christ but the Lord is changing all of that. Thank you Jesus!
Colossians 1:27-28 (NASB)
[SUP]27 [/SUP] to whom God willed to make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.
[SUP]28 [/SUP] We proclaim Him, admonishing every man and teaching every man with all wisdom, so that we may present every man complete in Christ.
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A mystery that was revealed nearly 2000 years ago is no longer a mystery, much less a mystery doctrine. That terminology has a place in the mystery religions and cults, but not in Christianity.
Now to Him who is able to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery which has been kept secret for long ages past, but now is manifested, and by the Scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the eternal God, has been made known to all the nations, leading to obedience of faith; to the only wise God, through Jesus Christ, be the glory forever. Amen (Romans 16.25).
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Colossians 1:26-27
the mystery which has been hidden from ages and from generations, but now has been revealed to His saints. 27. To them God willed to make known what are the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles: which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.
As the person said, the "mystery doctrine"
Yes it has been revealed. But is was still a mystery doctrine. Which as he said, Is not taught much anymore.
Instead of tearing down the person like you have been doing, You should have understood what he meant.
the mystery which has been hidden from ages and from generations, but now has been revealed to His saints. 27. To them God willed to make known what are the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles: which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.
As the person said, the "mystery doctrine"
Yes it has been revealed. But is was still a mystery doctrine. Which as he said, Is not taught much anymore.
Instead of tearing down the person like you have been doing, You should have understood what he meant.
Just a wee bit of research reveals that the term mystery doctrine is code language for the dispensational view of grace. We have seen elements of that here in those who reject the whole counsel of GOD and claim that what Jesus spoke to the apostles was for the Jews (the gospel of the kingdom), but what Paul wrote was a mystery not revealed to the other apostles and is only for the church (the gospel of grace). In other words, two gospels.