Is Hell Still a Danger Christians Should Avoid and Fear?

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"The apostle did not only diligently seek heaven after he knew he was converted, but was earnestly cautious lest he should be d-mned, as appears by the passage already cited. But I keep under my body and bring it into subjection, lest by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway. Here you see the apostle is very careful lest he should be a castaway, and denies his carnal appetites, and mortifies his flesh, for that reason. He did not say, I am safe, I am sure I shall never be lost; why need I take any further care respecting it? Many think because they suppose themselves converted, and so safe, that they have nothing to do with the awful threatenings of God's Word, and those terrible denunciations of d-mnation that are contained in it. When they hear them, they hear them as things which belong only to others, and not at all to themselves, as though there were no application of what is revealed in the Scripture respecting hell, to the godly. And therefore, when they hear awakening sermons about the awful things that God has threatened to the wicked, they do not hear them for themselves, but only for others. But it was not thus with this holy apostle, who certainly was as safe from hell, and as far from a d-mnable state, as any of us. He looked upon himself as still nearly concerned in God's threatenings of eternal d-mnation, notwithstanding all his hope, and all his eminent holiness, and therefore gave great diligence, that he might avoid eternal d-mnation."
 
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"The apostle did not only diligently seek heaven after he knew he was converted, but was earnestly cautious lest he should be d-mned, as appears by the passage already cited. But I keep under my body and bring it into subjection, lest by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway. Here you see the apostle is very careful lest he should be a castaway, and denies his carnal appetites, and mortifies his flesh, for that reason. He did not say, I am safe, I am sure I shall never be lost; why need I take any further care respecting it? Many think because they suppose themselves converted, and so safe, that they have nothing to do with the awful threatenings of God's Word, and those terrible denunciations of d-mnation that are contained in it. When they hear them, they hear them as things which belong only to others, and not at all to themselves, as though there were no application of what is revealed in the Scripture respecting hell, to the godly. And therefore, when they hear awakening sermons about the awful things that God has threatened to the wicked, they do not hear them for themselves, but only for others. But it was not thus with this holy apostle, who certainly was as safe from hell, and as far from a d-mnable state, as any of us. He looked upon himself as still nearly concerned in God's threatenings of eternal d-mnation, notwithstanding all his hope, and all his eminent holiness, and therefore gave great diligence, that he might avoid eternal d-mnation."
But I keep under my body, and bring [it] into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway. 1 Cor 9:27
 
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Matthew 10

27 “Whatever I tell you in the dark, speak in the light; and what you hear in the ear, preach on the housetops.
28 And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
 
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Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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I believe as a born again believer hell is not something I myself am afraid of for I walk with confidence in Christ .However when tempted to sin this is not an unhealthy thing to fear to keep yourself in line.I am confident that God will finish the good work He started in me so really what I need to be afraid of by sinning is not myself going to hell but people around me going there.Another thing we need to be afraid of is our relationship with Christ being affected because anyone who is truly saved knows that when we give in to sin it grieves our spirit and puts us at a greater distance from God.If you dont value your relationship with Christ than you have sin in your life,plain and simple and that needs to be eliminated if you want to have a real Christ filled life.Spending much time in prayer and scripture reading reveals to me that there is Christ like fear but its not a worrying,constant woe is me type fear.The fear of the Lord is something that is an understanding of who God is in a perfect balance of grace and judgement.Christ paid it all on the cross but if you are living in sin than you need to examine yourself and your heart for you will live in darkness and be miserable till you do and turn from your wicked ways.
 
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The short answer, as has already been stated by Loveschild, is yes.
 
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I believe as a born again believer hell is not something I myself am afraid of for I walk with confidence in Christ .However when tempted to sin this is not an unhealthy thing to fear to keep yourself in line.I am confident that God will finish the good work He started in me so really what I need to be afraid of by sinning is not myself going to hell but people around me going there.Another thing we need to be afraid of is our relationship with Christ being affected because anyone who is truly saved knows that when we give in to sin it grieves our spirit and puts us at a greater distance from God.If you dont value your relationship with Christ than you have sin in your life,plain and simple and that needs to be eliminated if you want to have a real Christ filled life.Spending much time in prayer and scripture reading reveals to me that there is Christ like fear but its not a worrying,constant woe is me type fear.The fear of the Lord is something that is an understanding of who God is in a perfect balance of grace and judgement.Christ paid it all on the cross but if you are living in sin than you need to examine yourself and your heart for you will live in darkness and be miserable till you do and turn from your wicked ways.
But I keep under my body, and bring [it] into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
"The apostle did not only diligently seek heaven after he knew he was converted, but was earnestly cautious lest he should be d-mned, as appears by the passage already cited. But I keep under my body and bring it into subjection, lest by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway. Here you see the apostle is very careful lest he should be a castaway, and denies his carnal appetites, and mortifies his flesh, for that reason. He did not say, I am safe, I am sure I shall never be lost; why need I take any further care respecting it? Many think because they suppose themselves converted, and so safe, that they have nothing to do with the awful threatenings of God's Word, and those terrible denunciations of d-mnation that are contained in it. When they hear them, they hear them as things which belong only to others, and not at all to themselves, as though there were no application of what is revealed in the Scripture respecting hell, to the godly. " Edwards
 
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Who is Edwards you are quoting from , was the first post a quote from someone as well?
 
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And therefore, when they hear awakening sermons about the awful things that God has threatened to the wicked, they do not hear them for themselves, but only for others. But it was not thus with this holy apostle, who certainly was as safe from hell, and as far from a d-mnable state, as any of us. He looked upon himself as still nearly concerned in God's threatenings of eternal d-mnation, notwithstanding all his hope, and all his eminent holiness, and therefore gave great diligence, that he might avoid eternal d-mnation. For he considered that eternal misery was as certainly connected with a wicked life as ever it was, and that it was absolutely necessary that he should still keep under his body, and bring it into subjection, in order that he might not be d-mned, because indulging the lusts of the body and being d-mned were more surely connected together. The apostle knew that this conditional proposition was true concerning him, as ever it was. If I live wickedly, or do not live in a way of universal obedience to God's commands, I shall certainly be a castaway. This is evident because the apostle mentions a proposition of this nature concerning himself in that very chapter where he says, he kept under his body lest he should be a castaway. 1 Cor. 9:16, For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of, for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me if I preach not the gospel. What necessity was there upon the apostle to preach the gospel, though God had commanded him, for he was already converted, and was safe. And if he had neglected to preach the gospel, how could he have perished after he was converted? But yet this conditional proposition was still true. If he did not live a life of obedience to God, woe would be to him; woe to him, if he did not preach the gospel. The connection still held. It is impossible a man should go anywhere else than to hell in a way of disobedience to God. And therefore he deemed it necessary for him to preach the gospel on that account, and on the same account he deemed it necessary to keep under his body, lest he should be a castaway.
 
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I dont fear hell for I know whom I have believed and am pursuaded that He is able to keep that which Ive committed unto Him against that day
 
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This is but one part of Pauls life by the way and since when is it a sin to have a strong faith and assurance of your salvation because you know you are living in obedience to Christ.Work out your own salvation and only you know if your'e living in obedience
 
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This is but one part of Pauls life by the way and since when is it a sin to have a strong faith and assurance of your salvation because you know you are living in obedience to Christ.Work out your own salvation and only you know if your'e living in obedience
If hell wasn't a danger to the Corinthian believers, why did Paul warn them that if they lived in sin they would not inherit the kingdom of heaven?
"Instead, you yourselves cheat and do wrong, and you do this to your brothers. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God?" " Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God." All this is written to BELIEVERS. GBU
 
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I never said it was a sin to have a full assurance of faith. I hate being misconstrued. I never denied that we as Christians are also responsible to have the full assurance of faith until the end. In fact if we as Christians FEAR hell and Love God and live in such a way as to avoid apostasy, then that is a sure sign we are SAVED and therefore can be assured. It may seem a paradox to you Judah. But it is biblical.
 
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if we are genuinely saved we need not fear death, hell or judgement. But we should fear being ashamed before the judgement seat of Christ.
 
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ABSOLUTELY!
 
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Hell is not somewhere in the sky or under the Earth, it is wrongly interpreted by preachers. There is something like Hades , like a custordy where all unsaved souls are held captive. When a person dies if he has the Holy Spirit, and had lived by the word of God, he does not go to Hades, he is not tormented or placed in total darkness. When a unbeliever dies he goes to custody for the Judjment, where all the fallen angels are..going to be judjed. Hell is something that is on earth, like a man got the hell out of here from this orgy party, it is a metaphor like a situation where people dont know what they are doing, like a place wher people doing drugs, or party, or something where the Holy Ghost is absent. I dont mean to say that people who dont do wrong have the Holy Ghost, but I mean it is a state of being the conditipon of the people who have denied the Lord and they have the eternal hell pouring on to them like a rough ocean or tornado. Hell is only a heathen idea about the word itself Hell. It does not make you go anywhere, but if you are mostly in heelish situation then it may be too late to save your soul, you mave not be saved and then you will be in Hades or custody.

Bye,
God Bless You
Barthalomew
 
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Why do some people think that they are saved or going to be saved? Remmeber that God loves each one of you, even the hypocrates who persecuted the Lord, yet Jesus showed Love to them his enemies, bitterest rivals. Why? This shows that we are not here to put somebody to hell, or say that I am saved and you will be not saved. Who knows? it may be the other way.. so try to focus on the life of Jesus rather than saying that I will be save or I will go to heaven, if we say we have faith then try moving mountains or try rasing the dead by faith in his word.
The world is not going to be completely saved or a save place to be, but all wht one can do is to becoame a peace maker a lover like christ. ...and thast is difficult for many..
 
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are you banned or what?!#?
 
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Hello Torneli have anything to pass..scripture for knowledge of Jesus?
 
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