Biblical Logical Fallacies?

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thecreationtutor

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SeaBass said:
Heb 2:17 "Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people".

If Christ's brethren had Adam's sin, so did Christ.
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like them doesn't mean having the sin nature, frutiless point
 
thecreationtutor

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some of you must put an awful lot of hope in men, which is underlined by humanistic beliefs
 
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Logic is foolishness says the word of God

Faith is stronger than lgic

Faith is believing that the word of God is true.

Men base their logic on limited knowledge and always mess up.
therefore logic is error

People have reasoned away God by logic a long time ago, but God is still there
therefore logic is error prone.
 
thecreationtutor

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Logic is foolishness says the word of God

Faith is stronger than lgic

Faith is believing that the word of God is true.

Men base their logic on limited knowledge and always mess up.
therefore logic is error

People have reasoned away God by logic a long time ago, but God is still there
therefore logic is error prone.
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no it doesn't - Logic is a right view of who God is

man's mind is fallen - therefore not logical at all times - or is faulty in it's logic
 
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Noah preached righteousness
he preached the word of God
he said the world would be covered in water

the church priests and leaders of the world wide church of god pre flood, said
God would never destropy all their liberal loving sinning christians, cause no one can stop sinning

and the scientists agreed, that they dcalculated using prflood algebra that there was insufficient water to cover the earth so
LOGICALLY there could be no flood

and
then
all of them drowned

so much for logic in trying to believe the word of God

see
the word of God is factual truth beyond our dimension
and logic is little hubritic stupid children arguing

they are going to die.
 
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Threads likem this just demonmstrate that most christians have absolutely no faith in the word of God at all

repent and be saved

( now Baptists dont know what repent is, they never heard that part of the bible before
it means to SAY you are sorry and CHANGE YOUR THOUGHTS change your ways
do righteously, believe and do the word of God

unheard of and new to you I know
but
actually that is the true gospel

not your false gospel of wide road say you love Jesus and keep playing video games till jesus drags you away from your video games and beer to go to heaven where there are no video games and beer to be miserable all your life...

I would hat to be in a baptist heaven
my house would be robbed every night since they cant stop sinning.
Jesus loves you
 
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ob77

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Colloquial English will do fine here. Perhaps examples would do more to accentuate whatever it is you are attempting to convey.
 
thecreationtutor

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Threads like this just demonstrate that most Christians have absolutely no faith in the word of God at all

repent and be saved

( now Baptists don't know what repent is, they never heard that part of the bible before
it means to SAY you are sorry and CHANGE YOUR THOUGHTS change your ways
do righteously, believe and do the word of God

unheard of and new to you I know
but
actually that is the true gospel

not your false gospel of wide road say you love Jesus and keep playing video games till Jesus drags you away from your video games and beer to go to heaven where there are no video games and beer to be miserable all your life...

I would hat to be in a baptist heaven
my house would be robbed every night since they cant stop sinning.
Jesus loves you[/QUOT

what are you talking about? some crazy off the wall, huh?

was this the the topic was about? no. maybe you should find another discussion to post the incoherent thoughts

leave mine alone :D
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eternally-gratefull

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Threads likem this just demonmstrate that most christians have absolutely no faith in the word of God at all

repent and be saved

( now Baptists dont know what repent is, they never heard that part of the bible before
it means to SAY you are sorry and CHANGE YOUR THOUGHTS change your ways
do righteously, believe and do the word of God

unheard of and new to you I know
but
actually that is the true gospel

not your false gospel of wide road say you love Jesus and keep playing video games till jesus drags you away from your video games and beer to go to heaven where there are no video games and beer to be miserable all your life...

I would hat to be in a baptist heaven
my house would be robbed every night since they cant stop sinning.
Jesus loves you
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no one can stop sinning, this is crazy talk. John says if you claim to be sinless you have deceived yourself and no truth is in you.

repent does not not mean do good. repent means to Change your heart. Mankind is all about self. self can save you. if you still think you can save yourself (works) you have not repented. you are still in self.
 
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Noah preached righteousness
he preached the word of God
he said the world would be covered in water

the church priests and leaders of the world wide church of god pre flood, said
God would never destropy all their liberal loving sinning christians, cause no one can stop sinning

and the scientists agreed, that they dcalculated using prflood algebra that there was insufficient water to cover the earth so
LOGICALLY there could be no flood

and
then
all of them drowned

so much for logic in trying to believe the word of God

see
the word of God is factual truth beyond our dimension
and logic is little hubritic stupid children arguing

they are going to die.
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Good God man, learn to type. The flood of Noah's day was at best 31.5 feet. Where they were was in a large basin, which at the end, broke at one point or another and let the waters loose. The flood was to eradicate the giants.
 
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thecreationtutor said:
The Bible is a whole message, consistent

The Testaments both agree to the whole message of the Bible

The Books agree with the Testament it is under, which in turn agrees with the whole message of the Bible

The Chapters agree with the Book it is under, which in turn agrees with the Testament the book is in which agrees with the whole message of the bible

The Verse agrees with the chapter, which in turn agrees with the Book, which agrees with the Testament falling under the whole message of the Bible


i was going to try to get a picture but my stupid snag it too isn't working for some reason
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What?........
 
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ob77 said:
Good God man, learn to type. The flood of Noah's day was at best 31.5 feet. Where they were was in a large basin, which at the end, broke at one point or another and let the waters loose. The flood was to eradicate the giants.
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learn to read.

the flood covered all the mountains under heaven to a debth of 15 cubits..

only 8 souls survived, they were on the ark..
 
peacefulbeliever

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SeaBass said:
Hebrew writer says Jesus took on the nature of man.

Rom 1:3 "Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;"

What was David's seed after the flesh like?

Heb 2:14 "Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same;"

So Jesus would have been born a sinner with a depraved nature.
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Nope . . . His seed came through David because of Mary . . . [between thy seed and her seed) and Jesus was not fathered by a man but by the holy Spirit. Jesus was not born a sinner - just as the first Adam was created perfect until he sinned so Jesus Christ was perfect and remained perfect, a lamb without spot or blemish, completely sinless.
 
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peacefulbeliever said:
Nope . . . His seed came through David because of Mary . . . [between thy seed and her seed) and Jesus was not fathered by a man but by the holy Spirit. Jesus was not born a sinner - just as the first Adam was created perfect until he sinned so Jesus Christ was perfect and remained perfect, a lamb without spot or blemish, completely sinless.
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He was made of the seed of David according to the flesh. Was David born a sinner? If so, so was Christ. Was Christ's brethren born sinners? If so, Christ was like them.
 
thecreationtutor

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SeaBass said:
He was made of the seed of David according to the flesh. Was David born a sinner? If so, so was Christ. Was Christ's brethren born sinners? If so, Christ was like them.
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waiting for you to say that all will be saved in the end
 
thecreationtutor

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ob77 said:
Good God man, learn to type. The flood of Noah's day was at best 31.5 feet. Where they were was in a large basin, which at the end, broke at one point or another and let the waters loose. The flood was to eradicate the giants.
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hmm inability to write well vs erroneous made up stuff what to choose
 
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SeaBass said:
Neither Universalism or original sin are biblical.
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I don't know what Universalism is, but I don't believe that we are under "Original Sin" beyond the fact that we find ourselves still outside of Eden. There was a separation that happened between man and God at that time and I figure we don't totally overcome that until we die or Jesus comes. But we are clearly not condemned to Hell because our earthly fathers sinned. And a baby cannot sin as he/she is incapable of knowing the difference between good and evil. Baptizing babies is a pointless practice and quite frankly is impossible because believing, repenting, and confessing are not possible at that stage in life. I watched a five year old girl at her mother's funeral and she was totally oblivious to what had happened. I don't think she was old enough to understand salvation. For each person it is different. But babies, never.
 
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