The Fourth Commandment didn't make the day holy, it make it a burden.

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In the beginning God created everything in six days but He didn't stop there, He continued on to created a seventh day in which He blessed, sanctified and called holy. These words have meaning to God and automatically instill a sense of value and reverence to the day.

When a child of God encounters something holy there WILL be an automatic sense of reverence and honor. When the holy things of God go unnoticed or are viewed as a common thing God loses His High and Lofty position in His creation.

God is Creator of all things but He is also our Father. The Majesty and Holiness of God is unapproachable by sinful man. His relationship with His creation is motivated by one of two things Law and punishment or Love. God desires our relationship with Him to based on love but He's forced, by the wickedness of man, to base it on Law.

The Law protects the Holy and Sacred things of God against wicked and vile men.

The Law causes fear of punishment thus puts people in bondage to even the tiniest violation of the Law.

In Christ we are free from the Law and its fear of punishment. A great exchange takes place when we become a son/daughter of the Most High. We are taken out from under confines of the Law and are given a new spirit and a new heart ready and willing to value and honor the holy things of God.

To a child of the Most High the seventh day becomes special. It becomes a day we look forward to, not a day that we dread and fear.

The Law to the wicked or unregenerate is empowered by their lack of reverence and honor for the holy things of God but to the child of God there is no Law governing Sabbath behavior accept the law of love for God and man.

To the child of God, who loves God and are part of His family it is lawful to good, even if it appears to be a violation to those who are unregenerate. Why is that? Because to a child of God the Sabbath is set apart as special in their heart first. A child of God can't violate the seventh day Sabbath by working because they are not under the Law that governs behavior on the Sabbath.

The child of God longs for that sweet Sabbath fellowship with his eternal family every Sabbath. God has surly anointed that day with special blessing for all who lay aside their own activities to focus on making the Sabbath special for God and His family.

Isaiah 58:13-14 “Keep the Sabbath day holy. Don’t pursue your own interests on that day, but enjoy the Sabbath and speak of it with delight as the Lord’s holy day. Honor the Sabbath in everything you do on that day, and don’t follow your own desires or talk idly. Then the Lord will be your delight. I will give you great honor and satisfy you with the inheritance I promised to your ancestor Jacob. I, the Lord, have spoken!
 
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God made the 4th day holy.

man cant make any day holy they can only blaspheme about it
what makes things holy is the holy spirit
only God can do that.
 
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God made the 4th day holy.

man cant make any day holy they can only blaspheme about it
what makes things holy is the holy spirit
only God can do that.
Man has the ability to honor that which is already holy. By the way, where do people get the idea that man can't make anything holy? To make something holy means you set it apart from everything else. There is no special power need for that.
 
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God says I will come and be with you on my honey moon day and its a burden?
wow.
 
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God says I will come and be with you on my honey moon day and its a burden?
wow.

its the greatest gift ever.
Its the best day of the week.
He blesses us and gives us grace and we know we have his seal. Love.

The sabbath s the seal of God

Song 8:6 Set me as a seal upon thine heart, as a seal upon thine arm: for love is strong as death;


love is the seal


John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

thy WORD is truth

John 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

Gen 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

there is a hundred ways to show the Sabbath is special with a special blessing

no one is forcing anyone to keep it
but people shouldnt say they follow the Bible when they dont follow the Bible.
 
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God says I will come and be with you on my honey moon day and its a burden?
wow.
What kind of honey moon says, "Do it or I'll kill you". The Law is for the kidnapper, murderer and so. The Law was not meant to be a honey moon.
 
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God made the Sabbath for his creation so they would remain pure and without sin
if you keep the Sabbath you have the power to keep the commandments.
and the Holy spirit is given to those who keep the commandments and the Sabbath on the Sabbath day in a double blessing says the Word of God
and I can testify to it.
if you havent kept it then you have not experienced that.
 
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God made the Sabbath for his creation so they would remain pure and without sin
if you keep the Sabbath you have the power to keep the commandments.
and the Holy spirit is given to those who keep the commandments and the Sabbath on the Sabbath day in a double blessing says the Word of God
and I can testify to it.
if you havent kept it then you have not experienced that.
You have just annihilated the cross and said that you have no need of it. Wiped your feet with it and pottied on it.
 
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The Law to the wicked or unregenerate is empowered by their lack of reverence and honor for the holy things of God but to the child of God there is no Law governing Sabbath behavior accept the law of love for God and man.

To the child of God, who loves God and are part of His family it is lawful to good, even if it appears to be a violation to those who are unregenerate. Why is that? Because to a child of God the Sabbath is set apart as special in their heart first. A child of God can't violate the seventh day Sabbath by working because they are not under the Law that governs behavior on the Sabbath.
so in other words all you have to do is proudly proclaim yourself a 'sabbath keeper'...wear the sabbath on your sleeve...and bash other people over the head with the sabbath...and God will be pleased with your 'obedience'

i have picked up on this sort of irony with some sabbath keepers before...if this is really the only 'standard' you hold yourself to regarding the sabbath...then -i am a better sabbath keeper than you are- even though i don't intentionally strive to keep the sabbath...

but in spite of that...the sabbath keepers here will continue with the condemnation simply because i don't go around proudly proclaiming myself a 'sabbath keeper'...and because i don't insist on everyone keeping the sabbath...and because i don't go around condemning everyone who doesn't keep the sabbath or who worships on sunday...
 
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God made the Sabbath for his creation so they would remain pure and without sin
actually God sent christ so we could be pure and without sin...remember him?
 
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You cannot keep the commandments without the Holy Spirit and the only way to receive the Holy Spirit is by faith in the cross of Christ.
 
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so in other words all you have to do is proudly proclaim yourself a 'sabbath keeper'...wear the sabbath on your sleeve...and bash other people over the head with the sabbath...and God will be pleased with your 'obedience'

i have picked up on this sort of irony with some sabbath keepers before...if this is really the only 'standard' you hold yourself to regarding the sabbath...then -i am a better sabbath keeper than you are- even though i don't intentionally strive to keep the sabbath...

but in spite of that...the sabbath keepers here will continue with the condemnation simply because i don't go around proudly proclaiming myself a 'sabbath keeper'...and because i don't insist on everyone keeping the sabbath...and because i don't go around condemning everyone who doesn't keep the sabbath or who worships on sunday...
The Lord did NOT tell you to look down your nose at anyone who keeps the Sabbath!! You choose not to keep it, so that is your business, but God is not condemning me because I keep it!! The Lord even allows me to repeat scripture telling me that when scripture tells us about God's plan for us in relation to Sabbath, he uses the last day of the week. I can even say I choose that because I want to follow the Lord's direction as close as I can because I love Him.

If you want to declare to the Lord you prefer another day, fine, it is you and the Lord's business. I doubt God is so legalistic that he says you must choose only a certain day of the week. If you think you are following God by choosing another day, scripture says to follow your heart. But don't say the old "you fool" to me because my heart says to follow scripture close as I can.
 
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Tent, you are right, we are not to condemn those who keep Sabbath. The problem is where is your faith. There is absolutely nothing wrong with meeting with fellow believers to worship God in fact it is encouraged. But if your faith is in keeping a day then that means your faith is not in the work of the Cross and therefore not accepted by God.

That opens the door for sin. and the wages of sin is death.
 

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You cannot keep the commandments without the Holy Spirit and the only way to receive the Holy Spirit is by faith in the cross of Christ.
Acts 15:8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;

God Bless
 

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actually the greatest gift ever is the salvation won for us by christ...remember him?
Psalms 107:20 He sent his word, and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions.

i enjoy what Gill share on this particular verse.

His Commentary

He sent his word, and healed them,.... It was his will and pleasure they should be healed, and accordingly they were; he issued his orders for the removal of the affliction, and it was done; diseases are his servants, which come and go at his command; so Christ, in the days of his flesh, healed by speaking a word, Matthew 8:3. This is true of Christ the essential Word, who was sent in the fulness of time, and was made flesh and dwelt among men, and went about healing all manner of diseases among the people; and who is also the physician of souls who came with healing in his wings; that is, with pardon of sin, for which his blood was shed: he is the only physician, the skilful, universal, and infallible one, and does all freely, and in a most marvellous manner, by his stripes, blood and wounds, and by an application of these to diseased persons sensible of their case. It may also be applied to the word of the Gospel; the law is the means of wounding, it is the killing letter; the Gospel is the means of healing, the doctrines of it are the leaves of the tree of life, which are for the healing of the nations; it is the doctrine of remission of sins by the blood of Christ, and by it Christ speaks peace and pardon to wounded consciences.

God Bless
 

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Exo 20:10


But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
Exo 20:11
For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
 
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Exo 20:10


But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
Exo 20:11
For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Amen! And if we need the Law to force obedience then we are not saved...:)

The Law was made for those who want to hate and reject the blessed, holy and sacred things of God. The Spirit is given to those who want to love and obey the blessed, holy and sacred things of God.

The Law to the regenerated will cause more hatred and rejection and the Spirit to the saved will cause more love and obedience.
 
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actually God sent christ so we could be pure and without sin...remember him?
He also sent Christ to be our example...remember His ministry?

1 John 2:6 He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.

John 10:26-28 But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you. My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand.