How Jews Mock Christ

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gentile unbelievers also deny the son...so why single out only jews for this extreme criticism?

This is a Jewish thread, and scripture makes the statements, not me...



you were arguing that jews who were not even born in jesus' time are guilty of the murder of jesus...simply because -other jews- once were guilty of his death...that is an obvious attempt at arguing 'racial guilt'

That was YOUR assertion, not mine.

But...anyone who denies The Son does not have life...



stephen was a jew because he called the jews of the sanhedrin 'brethren'...so clearly he did not hold all jews guilty of the death of jesus...otherwise he himself would be guilty...he only accused those jews who carried out or approved the murder of jesus...
You aren't reading before making your liberal sympathizing remarks.

 

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The natural branches that have The Son are now called Christians...
Where in Scripture does it say the believing gentiles are called natural branches?

Romans 11:18, 21-22, 24 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?

The natural branches are the Jews period, even while they are broken off.
 
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Where in Scripture does it say the believing gentiles are called natural branches?

Romans 11:18, 21-22, 24 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?

The natural branches are the Jews period, even while they are broken off.

Of course, the natural branches are Jews...and the natural branches that are grafted back in are now called Christians...

 
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This is a Jewish thread, and scripture makes the statements, not me...






That was YOUR assertion, not mine.

But...anyone who denies The Son does not have life...





You aren't reading before making your liberal sympathizing remarks.

since you saw that this is a jew bashing thread...if you really believe that -anyone- who denies the son does not have life...then you should have argued for more balance given that most gentiles are just as guilty of denying the son as most jews are...instead you just joined in the jew bashing...
 
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since you saw that this is a jew bashing thread...if you really believe that -anyone- who denies the son does not have life...then you should have argued for more balance given that most gentiles are just as guilty of denying the son as most jews are...instead you just joined in the jew bashing...

Just repeating what's already in scripture.

Study up...

 
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Just repeating what's already in scripture.

Study up...

in this thread at least you have been selective in what scripture you choose to repeat...

a partial truth is often just as bad as an untruth...
 
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in this thread at least you have been selective in what scripture you choose to repeat...

a partial truth is often just as bad as an untruth...

If you can bring forth scripture counter to what I have presented, then do so....if not, then you have nothing but your unreferenced opinion...
 
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If you can bring forth scripture counter to what I have presented, then do so....if not, then you have nothing but your unreferenced opinion...
If you mean by this that we must not know anything about the events that scripture refers to, I strongly disagree with you. The Lord used these events to show us His eternal truths, if we refuse to learn what is known about the events, we are refusing to learn of the Lord.

I should think you would be delighted that someone shares their knowledge of the events you speak of, and check her out for accuracy, not criticize her for her study.
 
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If you mean by this that we must not know anything about the events that scripture refers to, I strongly disagree with you. The Lord used these events to show us His eternal truths, if we refuse to learn what is known about the events, we are refusing to learn of the Lord.

I should think you would be delighted that someone shares their knowledge of the events you speak of, and check her out for accuracy, not criticize her for her study.

Give us a specific example...
 
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Give us a specific example...
I am not sure what you mean by an example. There are many examples of the way learning history can clear up understanding of what the bible says. The bible is accurate always, history isn't always, but they do help each other.

A glaring example is about the four corners of the earth. It was decided, based on that statement of scripture that the earth was square. When we found out it wasn't square, the meaning of the scripture was cleared up. Another is scripture about the length of men's hair. When we found out that in the town Paul was talking to, people with hair a curtain length was advertising their lack of morals, and Paul was warning men not to advertise they lacked morals like it was accepted the length of hair told in that town at that time.
 
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I should think you would be delighted that someone shares their knowledge of the events you speak of, and check her out for accuracy, not criticize her for her study.

Her 'accuracy' on what, exactly?

Its not as if she posited any scriptural example to the counter of what I posted....in fact, she posited NONE.

She has had plenty of opportunity and an open invitation.

Basically, I called yet another liberal's bluff...