FALSE DOCTRINE

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Kerry

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Which one is false? every doctrine seems to follow God. I meant the Methodist love Jesus as well as the Baptist. The Assembly of God love Jesus as well as some Catholics. The church of God needs to fess up, cause the only difference between The COG and the AOG is that tongues can only be performed in a service three times. The Congregational Holiness church has the only difference that women can't wear pants. Most baptist illustrate that the-only difference is that they don't speak in tongues.While some Baptist say it is demonic. Some methodist and Baptist and Lutheran say that miracles have ceased. Even if a man was raised from the dead in front of their very eys they will still deny it.

So what do we do, argue, debate, call each other names. Yet we sall agree that Jesus is our Savior. Why is this so?
 
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directline2iam

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Simple misunderstanding of scripture. That's all it can be.
 
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FireHeart

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Which one is false? basically whatever disagrees with the inividuel no matter what it is. I say jesus is God others claim it false doctrine because they say he isnt.
 
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Kerry said:
Which one is false? every doctrine seems to follow God. I meant the Methodist love Jesus as well as the Baptist. The Assembly of God love Jesus as well as some Catholics. The church of God needs to fess up, cause the only difference between The COG and the AOG is that tongues can only be performed in a service three times. The Congregational Holiness church has the only difference that women can't wear pants. Most baptist illustrate that the-only difference is that they don't speak in tongues.While some Baptist say it is demonic. Some methodist and Baptist and Lutheran say that miracles have ceased. Even if a man was raised from the dead in front of their very eys they will still deny it.

So what do we do, argue, debate, call each other names. Yet we sall agree that Jesus is our Savior. Why is this so?
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Out of every thing you said....the bolded above takes the cake for sure.......:)
 
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Kerry said:
Which one is false? every doctrine seems to follow God. I meant the Methodist love Jesus as well as the Baptist. The Assembly of God love Jesus as well as some Catholics. The church of God needs to fess up, cause the only difference between The COG and the AOG is that tongues can only be performed in a service three times. The Congregational Holiness church has the only difference that women can't wear pants. Most baptist illustrate that the-only difference is that they don't speak in tongues.While some Baptist say it is demonic. Some methodist and Baptist and Lutheran say that miracles have ceased. Even if a man was raised from the dead in front of their very eys they will still deny it.

So what do we do, argue, debate, call each other names. Yet we sall agree that Jesus is our Savior. Why is this so?
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Most of what you listed is peripheral, hopefully all are agreed on the fundamentals.
 
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Well well its the antichrist spirit ,not all that calls me lord will enter the kingdo of heaven , yhen again why do you call me Lord if you do not do what I say ? Quote ; Iesus Cristo . In this are they made manifest by their fruits also quoted by Our Lord Iesus : he who donot help me guather is against me .,by living an unpleasing life do theY remain acursed an enemy of God . An antichrist.
 
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Kerry said:
Which one is false? every doctrine seems to follow God. I meant the Methodist love Jesus as well as the Baptist. The Assembly of God love Jesus as well as some Catholics. The church of God needs to fess up, cause the only difference between The COG and the AOG is that tongues can only be performed in a service three times. The Congregational Holiness church has the only difference that women can't wear pants. Most baptist illustrate that the-only difference is that they don't speak in tongues.While some Baptist say it is demonic. Some methodist and Baptist and Lutheran say that miracles have ceased. Even if a man was raised from the dead in front of their very eys they will still deny it.

So what do we do, argue, debate, call each other names. Yet we sall agree that Jesus is our Savior. Why is this so?
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Well Kerry, is He a Savior or a chance-giver?

I say he is the Savior.

Thou shalt call His name Jesus, for HE SHALL SAVE His people from their sins.

Everyone who (having the Lord Jesus adequately defined) trusts Him as Savior (eternal destiny), is to be recognized as a brother in the Lord.

Recognizing the word of the Lord is a legitimate issue, as "My sheep hear my voice." So if someone spouts off & claims it is prophecy, if it is prophecy those who deny that it is indicate they are not sheep. And if it is not prophecy, those who say it is indicate they are not sheep.

I go a lot to a church that speaks in tongues, namely Spanish, English, and perhaps a little Portuguese. The word "tongue" just means language. Standing up & spouting off untranslatable gibberish is not the gift of languages -- which I don't believe is extant. I don't know anyone who can stand up & preach in a language he never studied or learned.

It is a serious matter to claim to be prophesying in a language ("tongue") when you are just jabbering or demon-possessed.

I give 'em credit who wish to limit it to 3 speakers, as at least making a stab at following 1 Cor 14. Now are they also keeping the women silent, for it is not permitted for them to speak? let alone shriek.

You have no way of rating the love-level of the average person in a given denomination. Only the Lord knows that. If you visited 90 percent of the churches in a denomination over a number of years with an army of data gatherers, you might come up with a civility rating.
 
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Kerry said:
Which one is false? (..)
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Catholicism isn't even a christian doctrine, so it's false by defintion...

Now let's talk about the rest. :rolleyes:
 
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well, it seems to me that some folks can't seem to get past some stuff. we all basically agree on many things, but when you get to a point of disagreement some try to force you to believe what they do. what bothers me is why we can't agree to disagree and move on in our walk with God. they are grey areas. they are some things that are for you and the Lord to work out without a denomination standing over you telling you how to do it.
 
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All the denominations have some sort of doctrinal error. No one is perfect in their understanding. Not even the founders of denominations...

To say that tongues or miracles have ceased is the same error as the atheists have. In the pride of their own understanding they say something that they have not experienced does not exist. Well they aren't God. They don't know what exists and what doesn't exist outside of their own experience.

Then those who say if you don't speak in tongues you aren't saved would be shortening the arm of God, if it were possible to do so. Can God save the mute? Of course. Is tongues the only sign of the Holy Spirit? No, its not.

And on and on and on. We could continue to point out the errors in the different denominations, but its irrelevant. As long as they all have the basic gospel correct. Which now days is a miracle in itself.
 
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gb9 said:
well, it seems to me that some folks can't seem to get past some stuff. we all basically agree on many things, but when you get to a point of disagreement some try to force you to believe what they do. what bothers me is why we can't agree to disagree and move on in our walk with God. they are grey areas. they are some things that are for you and the Lord to work out without a denomination standing over you telling you how to do it.
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You and the Lord only? But there are a men with the gift of teaching and pastors in charge of feeding you. There are fundamentals and then there are differences of opinion. The confession of the real Lord Jesus is a fundamental (YHWH, God & man, risen from the dead). Trusting in Him as SAvior is a fundamental -- Savior, not "chance-giver."

Thou shalt call His name Jesus, for He shall save His people from their sins.

2 John "Whosoever goeth onward and abideth not in the teaching of Christ, hath not God: he that abideth in the teaching, the same hath both the Father and the Son. 10 If any one cometh unto you, and bringeth not this teaching, receive him not into your house, and give him no greeting: 11 for he that giveth him greeting partaketh in his evil works.
 
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Kerry said:
Which one is false? every doctrine seems to follow God. I meant the Methodist love Jesus as well as the Baptist. The Assembly of God love Jesus as well as some Catholics. The church of God needs to fess up, cause the only difference between The COG and the AOG is that tongues can only be performed in a service three times. The Congregational Holiness church has the only difference that women can't wear pants. Most baptist illustrate that the-only difference is that they don't speak in tongues.While some Baptist say it is demonic. Some methodist and Baptist and Lutheran say that miracles have ceased. Even if a man was raised from the dead in front of their very eys they will still deny it.

So what do we do, argue, debate, call each other names. Yet we sall agree that Jesus is our Savior. Why is this so?
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The differences prove they cannot all be biblically correct. "Thy word is truth", truth does not contradict itself, so they cannot all have the truth and cannot all be Christians. If one argues all or many or just a few of these religious groups are following the bible, then that implicates the bible as being a book full of contradictions written by a very confused author. If Christianity were really made up of a lot of contradicting opinions, then Christianity is THE worst joke in all the history of mankind having no truth or credibility at all.
 
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You have no way of rating the love-level of the average person in a given denomination.
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This is very unbiblical and in fact very wrong. The Bible refutes your statement all over the place.
 
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Matthew 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

This seems pretty straight forward - this is what the disciples of Jesus were suppose to do. The next verse gives more detail on what they were/are suppose to teach.

Matthew 28:20
teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.


So what are the commandments of Jesus that were given to his disciples that they were to teach? Should these commandments be at the heart of the church's teachings? Are they?
 
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inthewind said:

So what are the commandments of Jesus that were given to his disciples that they were to teach? Should these commandments be at the heart of the church's teachings? Are they?
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This is my command, that ye love one another, according as I did love you
(John 15:12)
 
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What I learn from Paul:
To argue is uncalled for.
To debate only with those who claim they know God but refuse Christ.
To call each other names is wrong.
And...
All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness.

So our discussions should not even be whether the OT is valid for Christians.
 
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SeaBass said:
... If Christianity were really made up of a lot of contradicting opinions, then Christianity is THE worst joke in all the history of mankind having no truth or credibility at all.
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And we are doing just that right here right now by our talk and by our walk not unlike our example Israel....His Name is greatly blasphemed among the unbelievers. What should we do?
 
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chubbena said:
And this is what He said
More than what you quoted, eh? :)
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yes, but:

Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
(Matthew 22:37-340)

so when John said:

not as though I were writing you a new commandment, but the one we have had from the beginning—that we love one another.
And this is love, that we walk according to his commandments; this is the commandment, just as you have heard from the beginning, so that you should walk in it.
(2 John 1:5-6)

he's intimating that if we love perfectly, every other commandment follows, so it as though we have but one commandment: to love God and man -- but that, not "human love" but divine, which we cannot attain except it is given to us. we love because He first loved us

:)

i don't mean to imply that it's OK to lie cheat or steal 'as long as you love' -- because if you truly love, you will neither lie, cheat nor steal
 
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posthuman said:

yes, but:

Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
(Matthew 22:37-340)

so when John said:

not as though I were writing you a new commandment, but the one we have had from the beginning—that we love one another.
And this is love, that we walk according to his commandments; this is the commandment, just as you have heard from the beginning, so that you should walk in it.
(2 John 1:5-6)

he's intimating that if we love perfectly, every other commandment follows, so it as though we have but one commandment: to love God and man -- but that, not "human love" but divine, which we cannot attain except it is given to us. we love because He first loved us

:)

i don't mean to imply that it's OK to lie cheat or steal 'as long as you love' -- because if you truly love, you will neither lie, cheat nor steal
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I know you know. :)
It's interesting that you quoted 1 John 1:5-6
What is your understanding on "just as you have heard from the beginning"?
At the beginning as in Deuteronomy 6:5 and in Leviticus 19:18?
At the beginning as in they first heard of Christ?
 
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