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LEPIDUS

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If we are saved by grace, why are we judged by our deeds?
 
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If we are in Christ our deeds have been nailed to the cross, Jesus taking on himself the iniquities of us all. Because of this no one is justified by their works but God has shown grace to all and those who receive it are justified by the work of Christ. No man can boast in their deeds or be condemned by their deeds, God has shown grace to all through Jesus Christ our Lord, to him be the glory forever.
 
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ELECT

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If we are saved by grace, why are we judged by our deeds?
Isaiah 64:6 [Full Chapter]
But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

No matter what we do we will always be saved by grace however if we do donot work righteousness we will be lost .Adam and Eve was saved by grace

Psalm 106:3
Blessed are they that keep judgment, and he that doeth righteousness at all times.

Ephesians 2:10King James Version (KJV)

10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

 
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Kaycie

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Every sin has to be judged and every good deed will be revealed. Even if someone's judgement is a forgiven sin on account of Christ's blood- that's just the outcome, but we still have to go through the process of judgment no matter what the outcome will be- because that is God's way.
 
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ELECT

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If we are saved by grace, why are we judged by our deeds?

[h=1]Daniel 9:18King James Version (KJV)[/h]18 O my God, incline thine ear, and hear; open thine eyes, and behold our desolations, and the city which is called by thy name: for we do not present our supplications before thee for our righteousnesses, but for thy great mercies.
 
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ELECT

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If we are saved by grace, why are we judged by our deeds?
[h=1]Romans 6:14-15King James Version (KJV)[/h]14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.


 
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hishealingred

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Has to do with our faith, what are deeds without faith? Nothing. Speaks about deeds without faith in James 2.
It also has to do with what it speaks of in Ephesians 2:10, did we do the things that God has planned for us in advance? And I remember in Revelation 22:12 Jesus says "And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.".
ALSO I remember someone had a vision of the rapture and this person saw Jesus giving rewards to different people according to if they had done what God has planned for them (either spiritual gifts, talents, sending people their way, converting, and many more), but I could be wrong about it so don't believe me for that, ask God.
 

know1

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Please expound.
Define judgement.
What kind of judgement are you referring to?
There are temporal judgements in the natural world for the deeds we do, and there are judgements in the after life that will be tried by fire, and there are judgements with eternal consequences.
 

Josefnospam

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How do you or anyone "receive" something from God..................Can you accept him. Or did he choose you before he made the world? God is NOT setting around in heaven hoping someone will let him help them. HE SAVES HIS PEOPLE and he cannot fail. He's GOD!! Thank him for HIS mercy and HIS grace and HIS spirit. He finished it and what can you add to God's finished work. We praise God through his Son Jesus Christ for what he has done for his people. Not what you have done for him ,or said ,or how good you are. There are NONE good NONE righteous NONE who seek him. Scripture says "There is NONE righteous. There is NONE that understands. There is NONE that seeketh after God. There is NONE that that doeth Good. No Not ONE. WE are sinners in need of a Saviour who is Jesus Christ.
His people give all honor and Glory and praise to him for what he Did, does and will do. He chose his people, paid, the price for them in blood, and he will Save them. No More no less. As many as were ordained to eternal life believed. Praise God for his power, might and saving Grace now and forever, not for what you EVER did. OUR GOD is GREAT
 
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hishealingred

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aGHHH OKAY. I THIN KI GET IT NOW. Jesus wants us to do everything that He speaks of in the NT, do we give to the poor for God, not man. Do we defend the poor and needy, do we give the things we do not need away. Do we pick up our own cross and follow Christ, do we preach the Gospel to others that don't know Christ, I could go on forever about this because there is so many things Jesus has told us to do. We are saved by grace for our sins, not everything else we do. We don't just rampantly sin as much as we can so we can be saved, doesn't mean we just sit around doing nothing for God. We don't just not prophecy, not speak to others about how Jesus really loves them, we don't just sit around expecting a miracle or something. We have to do things God has planned for us and commanded us to do. We don't just sit and pray all day for the whole world, not saying it's bad, but you have to also DO things for God. We are saved by grace for our SINS, but we have to sin less, and be transformed by the renewing of our minds and not be conformed to this world. Agh, there is so much more man, I don't think I am making sense, I should be sleeping.
 
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Romans 3:19

Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
 
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MidniteWelder

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If we are saved by grace, why are we judged by our deeds?
Accountability.
Jesus saved us from our enemy, more so than from ourselves.
He saved us from condemnation to hell not from the judgement of our actions.
We are still held accountable for ourselves and our own actions regardless if saved from hellfire.

Points to ponder:
1. God disciplines those he loves.
2. No Discipline seems pleasant at the time, but afterward brings a harvest of righteousness
3. we are held to a higher standard than the world, therefore we must represent and uphold that higher standard.
4. We are also judged according to what we did with what God has given us.
~(parable of the talents and pleasing the Master)
5. If we are saved by Grace this does not allow we shall sin some more
~Jesus continually preached the message to go and sin no more as well as and most importantly
Even if because of sin Gods grace abounds...we shall not sin so that grace can abound.

Romans 5
15But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God’s grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many!
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Nor can the gift of God be compared with the result of one man’s sin: The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many trespasses and brought justification.
17For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ!

20The law was brought in so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more,
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so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord
 
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know1

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aGHHH OKAY. I THIN KI GET IT NOW. Jesus wants us to do everything that He speaks of in the NT, do we give to the poor for God, not man. Do we defend the poor and needy, do we give the things we do not need away. Do we pick up our own cross and follow Christ, do we preach the Gospel to others that don't know Christ, I could go on forever about this because there is so many things Jesus has told us to do. We are saved by grace for our sins, not everything else we do. We don't just rampantly sin as much as we can so we can be saved, doesn't mean we just sit around doing nothing for God. We don't just not prophecy, not speak to others about how Jesus really loves them, we don't just sit around expecting a miracle or something. We have to do things God has planned for us and commanded us to do. We don't just sit and pray all day for the whole world, not saying it's bad, but you have to also DO things for God. We are saved by grace for our SINS, but we have to sin less, and be transformed by the renewing of our minds and not be conformed to this world. Agh, there is so much more man, I don't think I am making sense, I should be sleeping.
You are a treat young lady. You sound just like me when I was your age. I had all kind of questions.
Joh 21:22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me.
If Christ is in you then be still and listen, obey the word of God, God's voice, and your heart in faith and love.
 

Dan58

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If we are saved by grace, why are we judged by our deeds?

"And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints" (Revelation 19;8). 'Fine linen' represents our righteous acts. We are saved by faith/grace, but judged by our deeds. It is not a judgment of condemnation, but of rewards. "For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works" (Matthew 16;27) "For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad" (2 Corinthians 5:10). "Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour" (1 Corinthians 3;8). "I the Lord search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings" (Jeremiah 17;10). "Behold, the Lord God comes with might, and his arm rules for him; behold, his reward is with him, and his recompense before him" (Isaiah 40;10). "Thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly" (Matthew 6;4 and 6;18)
 
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kennethcadwell

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If we are saved by grace, why are we judged by our deeds?
The one thing I have not heard anybody say yet is how believers are judged by how well they obeyed Jesus words and therefore are given different rewards in heaven.

This goes with the wrong doers as well they are judged and their punishments are different for how bad they were.
Some that lived good lives, but deny the Lord our God will be burned up immediately, others like the antichrist and false prophet will burn for eternity.
 
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The wages of sin is death. Until we stop sinning our reward is just what it says it is.
 
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If we are saved by grace, why are we judged by our deeds?
We aren't saved right at this moment, but if you want to make sure that your sins to be covered, you must cover the sins that someone committed against you. But if you still hold a grudge against those that has sinned against you, and which means that you still see their sins, which means, God will still see your sins as well. That is why its says, to do unto others, that you want done unto you.

2 Samuel 12:5 David burned with anger against the man and said to Nathan, “As surely as the Lord lives, the man who did this must die! 6 He must pay for that lamb four times over, because he did such a thing and had no pity.”

Matthew 18:32 “Then the master called the servant in. ‘You wicked servant,’ he said, ‘I canceled all that debt of yours because you begged me to.

Romans 13:8 Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law.
 
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FireHeart

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Every sin has to be judged and every good deed will be revealed. Even if someone's judgement is a forgiven sin on account of Christ's blood- that's just the outcome, but we still have to go through the process of judgment no matter what the outcome will be- because that is God's way.
Wait what? you mean even though my slate is wiped clean by the blood of the lamb I have to be reminded of every shameful sin I ever did?
 
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Wait what? you mean even though my slate is wiped clean by the blood of the lamb I have to be reminded of every shameful sin I ever did?
She is correct. Even when the race is won, the other racers still run to finish.